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AIBU to overtake a hearse?

409 replies

confusedabouthormones · 01/10/2024 12:10

So today on the way home from school I had just pulled onto a dual carriageway and there was a hearse with some cars behind it. They were going to a near by crematorium. I pulled into the outside lane and drove past it.

My mother was in the car and she had a right go at me for being disrespectful and how she was embarrassed to be in my car. When I looked in my mirror no one else had passed the hearse.

Is this a thing? In my 30 odd years driving I've never heard this.

Was I being unreasonable to pass the hearse?

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LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 01/10/2024 14:21

Of course it's OK to overtake if you're on a duel carriageway 😆 It's not against the law, OR disrespectful. The parallel world of Mumsnet strikes again. In real life - everyone does this! (On a single track road too if it's safe/convenient.)

However, If the crem had been 'nearby' I might have waited. Was 'nearby' 100 yards, or 2 miles? They go very slow, so if they didn't appear to be leaving the road anytime soon, then yes I would overtake. Not at great speed, or with death metal playing, but I would overtake yes.

If I couldn't do it without cutting into the procession then I would stay put, but tbh it's never happened. I have overtaken a hearse quite a few times - on its own, on the way to pick up the funeral guests. But only a procession a couple of times, and that was on a long straight road. It was doing 10-15mph. Nothing wrong with overtaking! I'm not staying behind a hearse and a funeral procession when it's going 10-15mph!

Upshot is, there is no law against overtaking a hearse - or a funeral procession. 'Etiquette' is not LAW.

If anyone in MY car had said they were embarrassed to be in my car, I'd stop the car and tell them to get the fuck out and walk. Your mother was the rude one @confusedabouthormones

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 01/10/2024 14:22

SassK · 01/10/2024 14:19

Did you actually read my post? The dual carriageway in question is short, so 'needlessly' would amount to about 60 seconds. So yes, anyone angry at that is an arse, by any logic.

This is your local route, yes? So you know it presumably. Other drivers coming into the area will not necessarily be as au fait with it as you are so would see the markings for dual carriageway and drive accordingly, not knowing that it is a 60 second road length.

If it's busy and the drivers can't see what is going on ahead, just that traffic has slowed, they will assume you're all wanting to turn left and will overtake. I would. I'm not an arse anymore than I suppose you are, but I'm also not blind to the fact that not everybody has in-depth knowledge of every road layout.

godmum56 · 01/10/2024 14:24

confusedabouthormones · 01/10/2024 12:15

Ah ok. I wouldn't do it on a residential road and I wouldn't split the hearse and the limo. But thought on a dual carriage way it was ok.

IMO it is. I am 70 and been to a few funerals. On "local" roads you follow, let them into or of out of side turnings and so on. On dual carriageways, mororways etc, fine to pass them although not, of course, cut them up

BeerForMyHorses · 01/10/2024 14:26

No I wouldn't overtake even in a dual carriage way.

I remember letting a hearse out on a junction once and didn't want to get stuck in the middle of the family cars. I had to let about 15 cars go. I remember thinking I should never have let the hearse out !

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 14:28

BeerForMyHorses · 01/10/2024 14:26

No I wouldn't overtake even in a dual carriage way.

I remember letting a hearse out on a junction once and didn't want to get stuck in the middle of the family cars. I had to let about 15 cars go. I remember thinking I should never have let the hearse out !

So you wanted to overtake the hearse…

cazafora · 01/10/2024 14:28

I know someone who failed their driving test for not overtaking a hearse during the test.

transformandriseup · 01/10/2024 14:28

A very short dual carriageway I would hang back for a hearse but a major A road then no.

Funkyslippers · 01/10/2024 14:29

Viviennemary · 01/10/2024 12:36

Yes. It is just simply not done.

Edited

It is done and there is nothing wrong with it

chipsewfast · 01/10/2024 14:29

Dual carriageway - no problem. I would overtake.

BeerForMyHorses · 01/10/2024 14:30

So you wanted to overtake the hearse…

What? How did you get that from my post?

I slowed down and stopped to let the hearse out at a busy junction.

Shade17 · 01/10/2024 14:30

No issue on a multi lane DC. I probably wouldn’t drop a couple of cogs and nail it though!

SoupDragon · 01/10/2024 14:31

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 14:28

So you wanted to overtake the hearse…

No, she would have been in front of the hearse having not let it out of the junction.

Waterboatlass · 01/10/2024 14:31

I would say dual carriageway was fine at a steady pace.

if I saw someone overtake in a residential area that's pretty well known etiquette so I think I'd try and give them benefit of the doubt and assume it was maybe a say a hospital doctor on call or a&e run (maybe not a blue light emergency but life needing to be prioritised over respecting the dead).

Don't feel like a douche OP, there are mixed feelings on it and you didn't know anyway. I would assume the young lad in the Fiesta years ago had no idea either.

AegonT · 01/10/2024 14:32

We once travelled hours through huge delays to a relative's funeral and were very stressed about being late when we encountered the hearse on a dual carriageway only a few miles from the chapel! I decided overtaking at a respectful speed whilst hoping we weren't recognised was better than arriving at the funeral after the deceased.

snoopyfanaccountant · 01/10/2024 14:34

I have driven hearses in the past and I regularly had to drive to crematoria that were just off motorways or dual carriageways. Imagine the chaos if all the traffic in the other 2 or 3 lanes decided to not pass the hearse for 6 or 7 miles. Of course it's fine to pass a hearse on a motorway or dual carriageway as long as it is done without drawing attention to yourself.

PussGirl · 01/10/2024 14:34

I once overtook a couple of hearses and the following entourage many years ago - It was too late to pull in by the time I'd realised - I still feel terrible about it some 25 years later.

itwasnevermine · 01/10/2024 14:39

@Anisty but if you go past at say 40, and someone comes flying behind you at 70, you risk an accident? Yes you should be respectful but you can't put others at risk

ArabellaScott · 01/10/2024 14:39

Not at great speed, or with death metal playing, but I would overtake yes.

😁

snoopyfanaccountant · 01/10/2024 14:41

Ellerby83 · 01/10/2024 12:49

When hearses go on motorways do they travel at normal speed? it seems a bit dangerous to crawl at slow speed on a motorway

They generally drive at 40mph, rather than the 20mph they would do in town.

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 14:43

SoupDragon · 01/10/2024 14:31

No, she would have been in front of the hearse having not let it out of the junction.

But she’d have been in front of it so the same thing.

blueshoes · 01/10/2024 14:43

A hearse might not even be transporting a body, just driving from one place to another.

Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 14:44

blueshoes · 01/10/2024 14:43

A hearse might not even be transporting a body, just driving from one place to another.

A bit of grim humour there, people doffing their hats to an empty hearse.

Katiesaidthat · 01/10/2024 14:48

On a dual carriageway it is absolutely fine!

Peony15 · 01/10/2024 14:49

You don't overtake a hearse, it's disrespectful. Thought it was common knowledge ?