Family member awarded enhanced pip - AIBU?

[Orangecrocs]

My family member has just been awarded enhanced pip in both living and mobility components.
Shes told me that she’s twisted the truth during the assessment and told the assessor that she has lots of pain and can’t really walk at all, but she walks all the time as I see her out and about - we live in a hilly area. I know people who are in a wheelchair and struggle to get enhanced rate - so I really don’t understand how she’s managed this.
I know people will say mind your own business but she’s told me she’s actually lied to them.

This. I used to come across this quite often when I was dealing with reviews. When you’ve secured a level of PIP award you’ve come to rely on, when your condition changes it’s difficult to accept that you may no longer qualify. I had claimants who were very reluctant to report a change of condition, even when they had received an official notice of review. It’s easy to fall into the trap of benefit fraud without actually realising it.

No it’s just you rushing to post your whataboutery

Re the motability scheme. I don't know anything much about it but I used to work with a colleague who had a motability car (I assume they had PIP).

That car was what enabled them to work.

Sort of related, whilst discussing disability discrimination/hate. I'm currently in London visiting a friend. I was shocked to see an article in the Evening Standard about the London mayor wanting to pedestrianise parts of central London (and so effectively ban disabled people who need cars to get around) - despite central London being where several large hospitals are located, not to mention workplaces, shops, and homes.

That plan, plus the awful attitudes towards disabled benefits - and low amounts of money those benefits are, plus the what sounds like a stressful degrading process to get the money, makes me terrified of becoming disabled or ill.

FFS dyslexia isn't the only learning difficulty,infact I'm not explaining any further as I know the level of support I give otherwise my dw wouldn't be able to do any of the things I highlighted.

I didn’t say everyone. I said the DWP offer it where this kind of disability exists. Some cognitive disorders are classed as learning disabilities, and can make coping with the ins and outs of a benefit claim very difficult. It’s up to the claimant whether they accept or not and it depends on the level of impairment.

I didn’t say dyslexia was the only learning difficulty. I said “for example”. Which means it is one example, not a complete run down. Just because your DW needs that support doesn’t mean all do.

Whilst not relevant for all, I'd assume that many people are coping better with their condition precisely because of the PIP. Having the money to fund things that help make it more manageable.

But many do .. have some empathy for others not everyone is at it.

They need to set up an independent first tier for PIP. I feel like loads don't claim who should and some get it who shouldn't based on their knowledge of the system.

I didn’t say you said everyone. It was in response to the post at the start of point you responded to which said “Surely if someone had learning difficulties they would have an appointee.” If you look back on the quotes you will see that. My point was there is no surely about it, because not everyone does.

An appointee can sometimes be in place though when the claimant doesn’t believe it is necessary.

FFS read the bloody posts. I have not said everyone doesn’t need an appointee. I said “not everyone” and “some”. And nowhere have I said anyone is “at it”.

I know her very well so do know that there is no way she is disabled anywhere near 50% of the time. She will have a relapse around the time she needs to be assessed, otherwise she cooks, cleans, dog walks, babysits, meals out, all day drinking in pubs and at home with the family in the garden, foreign holidays where she gets so smashed drunk she falls down.

She travelled to Turkey for a gastric sleeve and lost about 5 stone. She may be an exception but I can absolutely guarantee she is well enough to work.

Gtf 😁

If you don’t like the reply, don’t post nonsense.

To add to my post above, the whole family know exactly how to play the system.

She may be an exception but I can absolutely guarantee she is well enough to work.

PIP isn't an out of work benefit. Some who get it are unable to work. Others do work (often because the PIP enablers them to).

I know the difficulties my dw faces I can assure you they are not nonsense.
I'll tell what's nonsense was a work coach suggesting there maybe a cure for osteoporosis... that's the rubbish claimants can be up against.

She will have a relapse around the time she needs to be assessed, otherwise she cooks, cleans, dog walks, babysits, meals out, all day drinking in pubs and at home with the family in the garden, foreign holidays where she gets so smashed drunk she falls down

I don't think I know this level of detail about even my closest friends' lives. Amazing. How do you know about what she does on her holidays? Does she boast about getting smashed and falling down? Post it on Facebook?

Right well anyway. I think what I'll take from this thread is that because some people shoplift, everyone , every single one of us shoppers, should be banned from from shops. Even though the majority of us don't shoplift.

Again, I didn’t comment on everyone. Nor did I mention what level of support your wife in particular needs. Insinuating I did or that I said dyslexia was the only learning difficulty is what is nonsense. If you don’t like me calling you out for saying something I didn’t then you shouldn’t post it in the first place. Try reading my actual posts rather than making your own version up.

WRT to Learning Difficulties and accessing support/benefits it depends on their nature ie specific vs global and their severity ie from mild/borderline vs severe/profound

It's a bit of a catch-all and needs clarification to further any discussion

Whataboutery that’s actually relevant here. If someone makes a claim for PIP entirely based on their mental health, DWP won’t give a monkeys’ about what they can physically do. Yoga would likely be seen as beneficial - dunno about pole dancing though, but if they do it for exercise, that potentially helps with mental health. This example proves that it’s dangerous to make assumptions that someone is cheating. As with the poster who was convinced that because the woman she knew could cook a meal for her family she must be claiming PIP fraudulently. Unless she was claiming she couldn’t cook, she wasn’t actually doing anything wrong. And there’s no way of knowing that without knowing the details of the claim.

I'm going to step back it's an emotive subject and I'm not looking to row with anyone.

Added in to that a learning difficulty is not the same thing as a learning disability. And many people mix up the two when talking about them. Although someone may have both.

Calling you out when you posted I said something I didn’t isn’t a row. If you don’t like it, don’t do it in the first place.