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To ask which country you would not visit again and why?

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travelcat · 15/09/2024 19:58

I love hearing about travel experiences and am interested in knowing about places you have visited that you wouldn't go back to.

AIBU to ask which country you'd avoid in the future and what specifically made your experience less enjoyable? Was it due to culture, safety, or something else?

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Azerothi · 16/09/2024 09:00

Anywhere in Turkey, ALL the men I came across were just dreadful, groping and pawing at me and my children UGH, and frightening, several times I thought my very blonde haired blue eyed daughters would be kidnapped, awful hotel food.

Morrocco, Egypt, Tunisia, Nigeria, Laos, ditto Turkey.

Anywhere in India, dirty, awful men, appalling animal cruelty including men having sex with animals in the street. The constant trying to scam tourists was just a terrible way to treat people spending lots of money there.

coolmum123 · 16/09/2024 09:00

Drinkdrinkduuurink · 16/09/2024 00:46

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Houses_of_Parliament_in_2022_alt_crop.jpg

Urgh. How to ruin the most famous building in the UK.

A once beautiful landmark, now with the eyesore of a cheese slice.

In Superman III, the bad Superman straightened the tower of pisa. That was bloody fiction.

Whose bone headed idea was it to transform Big Ben with a cheese slice?

Is it just me? What do you mean cheese slice?

AuntieWithAttitude · 16/09/2024 09:00

AbbeySo · 15/09/2024 20:55

Morocco
wasnt for me, culturally too different felt unsafe at times. Beautiful views but the poverty of the locals in the area I stayed in put me off as they didn’t have passports even. I support charities and am up to speed with world economics but for a holiday I struggle when I am faced with poverty makes me feel really guilty about the luxury of my own daily life 😭

I completely agree with this. I loved so much about India for example, but I went when I was very young. I think now that I'm older I'd 'see' more and understand the consequences and full weight of what I was seeing with the poverty, mutilations etc. I'm not sure I could handle it in the same way I did as a teenager when I was a lot less aware and observant.

There are also several countries I've yet to visit, which I wouldn't now due to their politics/laws. For example I don't want to give my money to countries which treat females or non heterosexual people as second class citizens or worse.

Sinisterdexter · 16/09/2024 09:02

A good way to visit a country is to have a guide. Much less likely to be hassled.
Friends of mine just had 3 weeks in India and never had any problems but they went with a couple who planned a guided itinerary.

Youcantcallacatspider · 16/09/2024 09:02

In addition to my pp I will say that it's so sad that about 90% of the genuine complaints on here are around the mistreatment of women and some of your stories sound horrific. What a shame that we have to avoid some of the most interesting and beautiful parts of the world because we don't have what should be automatic rights to basic safety and bodily autonomy. The world needs to do better.

SalviaDivinorum · 16/09/2024 09:02

armadillio · 16/09/2024 08:46

Wow, what was their logic for stopping women going through?

Men take priority over women.

Women are very much second class citizens. There were endless examples of it during our visit and that was the absolute final straw for me.

AuntieWithAttitude · 16/09/2024 09:03

@Drinkdrinkduuurink @coolmum123 nope I am also lost...

Disturbia81 · 16/09/2024 09:04

greencheetah · 15/09/2024 20:24

Osaka, Japan. Sexually assaulted by local man. Police didn’t give a shit.

Felt dreadfully unsafe the whole time, being perved at by men. The misogyny in Japan is like nothing I had ever experienced before, despite being well travelled.

Never ever going back.

Wow that's the first time I've heard that about Japan, just proves it happens everywhere
The recurring theme on this thread is pervy scary men, how depressing.

AuntieWithAttitude · 16/09/2024 09:06

Sinisterdexter · 16/09/2024 09:02

A good way to visit a country is to have a guide. Much less likely to be hassled.
Friends of mine just had 3 weeks in India and never had any problems but they went with a couple who planned a guided itinerary.

We had a guide for most of it, however didn't prevent seeing mutilated children begging on the streets. We were also there for the Holi festival, where people have huge paint fights on the street and spread powder paint on each other by way of a greeting. I was held by about 4 men whilst they rubbed powder paint on my face, breasts, thighs etc saying 'happy holi'. My mum and stepdad were actually there smiling having their own faces painted (only their faces) so I just thought it was something to smile and be polite about. I was 17. Has only registered in much later life that nothing about that was okay.

moodiemoo · 16/09/2024 09:07

The ‘locals are frosty’ reasons are a bit precious…they don’t live their lives for tourists. If they are outright rude, racist, misogynistic, that’s one thing, but frosty? Maybe we should tell them to smile!

coolmum123 · 16/09/2024 09:08

honeyrider · 16/09/2024 00:52

I'll be booking flights to Australia in the next couple of days and was planning on stopping in Dubai for one night to break up the journey, now I'm rethinking route if it's as bad as mentioned here.

We are off to Australia in a few weeks. We decided to go via Singapore as we wanted to break up the journey on the way back and didn't fancy stopping in Dubai for a couple of days. Also if you are looking at Qatar Airways sometimes the flight is BA all the way as they codeshare. Personally I won't fly BA long haul. There are better airlines for similar or slightly higher prices.

MarkWithaC · 16/09/2024 09:09

BanksysSprayCan · 16/09/2024 08:55

I agree, the people I met were pleasant and respectful. Although I stayed only in rural areas. Maybe the cities and tourist spots have a different vibe?

I wouldn't go back to Marrakech; I found it REALLY sleazy, aggressive men and boys, constant hassling to buy things/give money/go to a restaurant. Also found customer service in riads (so, places that you'd think were geared to tourism) to be very poor and people rude; openly sighed and rolled their eyes at any innocuous polite request, said the cook could make us dinner with two nights notice but then she was never able to because of a series of threadbare excuses.
Morocco as a whole is not on my blacklist though; Essaouira is much more pleasant, relaxed, safe-feeling – and IMO much more beautiful than Marrakech. And I'm sure things are different in small towns/the countryside too.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 16/09/2024 09:09

‘Turkey because it’s got an awful authoritarian government. They don’t allow fair trials or freedom of expression. The government doesn’t tolerate dissent. Anyone who speaks up is persecuted and harassed and imprisoned by the state or worse. ‘

yes, you go on holiday for a change, not just to have the same problems as in the UK.

MaryShelley1818 · 16/09/2024 09:11

Tunisia - absolutely horrendous. I wouldn't go back for a free holiday!

Oganesson118 · 16/09/2024 09:12

India

I went in 1998 when I was too young to have a say where family holidays were taken. Didn't love it but didn't hate it at the time. However I wouldn't go back to somewhere where I would not feel safe. I understand India is a hugely deprived country (with some massive wealth in and among!) but that's not somewhere I would choose to spend my holiday.

Also wouldn't go back to South Africa if that were an option but unfortunately as my husband is from there originally I don't have much choice.

MikeRafone · 16/09/2024 09:12

I wouldn't go back to China, I visited though in 1988 and it was very different to it is now - but no desire to return. It was hard going back then and I lost considerable weight in the 3 weeks I was travelling there.

I wouldn't go back to Cuba, I really enjoyed my holiday in this country but having cycled up & down the length of the country I don't feel it is somewhere I would return and the food was bland.

I do keep returning to France, I'd like to return to northern Spain, I also would return to beluga, Germans, Netherlands, Italy, Austria - really enjoyed Vienna and want to see more of Austria

Bigfuckoffmarrow · 16/09/2024 09:12

mrsrobin · 15/09/2024 20:20

Yes their immigration staff are really unfriendly! I know immigration staff are hardly ever chatty but they seem very unwelcoming.

I went via US to another country years ago and that was the only time I have visited the US. The airport staff were horrible and totally put me off going near the country for a holiday. It's a shame because its so vast with some beautiful areas to visit, but I can't get past the way they treated people at the airport.

Theotherone234 · 16/09/2024 09:13

Only place i was groped in the street was ulan bataar in Mongolia (by an 11 year old). The rest of Mongolia was amazing.

Only place i didn't feel safe at all was Sicily. People were lovely but I felt like the mafia were an overwhelming presence.

Most unfriendly people , where I didn't feel welcome at all, was France.

Places with the best, friendliest people was Slovakia, Croatia and Czech Republic

AuntieWithAttitude · 16/09/2024 09:14

MarkWithaC · 16/09/2024 09:09

I wouldn't go back to Marrakech; I found it REALLY sleazy, aggressive men and boys, constant hassling to buy things/give money/go to a restaurant. Also found customer service in riads (so, places that you'd think were geared to tourism) to be very poor and people rude; openly sighed and rolled their eyes at any innocuous polite request, said the cook could make us dinner with two nights notice but then she was never able to because of a series of threadbare excuses.
Morocco as a whole is not on my blacklist though; Essaouira is much more pleasant, relaxed, safe-feeling – and IMO much more beautiful than Marrakech. And I'm sure things are different in small towns/the countryside too.

Essaouira was beautiful and yes far more friendly than Marrakech! I did get followed and threatened, but the man was very blatantly mentally ill so I guess that could have happened anywhere. Another local actually accompanied me to get what I needed (was searching for stuff as the rest of my party were ill) and took me back to the place I was staying.

Fes was the worst though. So many bodies of dead animals and other just awful things.

OrwellianTimes · 16/09/2024 09:14

Paris. Last went as a girls school group at 16 and the constant leering, catcalling, groping, trying to single out one or two girls and separate from the group - it was grim.

Never experienced anything like it on other school trips to London, Barcelona etc.

Chillimuma · 16/09/2024 09:16

china

was grey and polluted

MikeRafone · 16/09/2024 09:17

@YellowComb
agree about Brussel and Belgium I found really lovely - particularly liked Antwerp . I think Belgium is very underrated

MikeRafone · 16/09/2024 09:18

Chillimuma · 16/09/2024 09:16

china

was grey and polluted

When did you travel to China?

AuntieWithAttitude · 16/09/2024 09:19

Bigfuckoffmarrow · 16/09/2024 09:12

I went via US to another country years ago and that was the only time I have visited the US. The airport staff were horrible and totally put me off going near the country for a holiday. It's a shame because its so vast with some beautiful areas to visit, but I can't get past the way they treated people at the airport.

That's interesting! I found that many years ago but have more recently travelled with my children and also to go to a funeral and found everyone to be very friendly and sympathetic. Guess it's luck of the draw.

Disturbia81 · 16/09/2024 09:20

Threads like this make me feel lucky to live here even though the way men behave here is shit a lot of the time. But compared to the rest of the world..
They're like animals

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