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12 year old obsessed with Jacqueline Wilson books.. Aibu to think there is better out there?

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Breakdancing · 14/08/2024 12:58

My 12 year old has come back from the library with another stack of Jacqueline Wilson books. I've flicked through some & they are mildly inappropriate but are in the young readers section.. I love that she is a bookworm but aibu to be annoyed with her obsession with Jacqueline Wilson?

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Breakdancing · 14/08/2024 23:39

MrsSunshine2b · 14/08/2024 21:15

There are loads of beautifully written historical children's books though.

Frances Hodgson Burnett, LM Montgomery, Louisa May Alcott and E Nesbit were firm favourites of mine before I was 12 and I do think it is a shame if children "age out" of the storylines before being ready for the prose.

Yes. When I referred to historical I meant the likes of Emma Carroll who has written fabulous children's historical fiction books. Dd has read all her books & loved them, J. W just seems crap in comparison (in my opinion which I have not shared with dd!)

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Potsnpotz · 15/08/2024 00:11

LouH5 · 14/08/2024 20:40

Oh bless her, she’s only 12!
Reading should be fun, for escapism.
When I was 12 I was reading JW, Sweet Valley High, Babysitters Club etc etc. I absolutely loved them. (And I now have an Eng Lit degree, if that makes you feel better!)
There’s plenty of time for more advanced books when she’s older. Please don’t push her into reading things she doesn’t want to, as she may lose her love for reading all together.

I agree. There’s some great children’s historical books out there too but it’s also important for children to engage with contemporary fiction and I say that as someone who read a lot of Enid Blyton and Anne of Green Gables in the 90s but then I also read the Babysitters Club and Goosebumps and Point Horror. Also read some children’s and adults classics too that were a lot more wordy and challenging and they also had their place.

But I just loved the escapism and easy reading style of contemporary fiction and it helped me remain an avid reader. I was very academic too and a bit of a worrier, I think that may be why I leaned towards not reading books that were too “challenging” all the time.

A lot of kids don’t read at all, so within reason as long as they’re reading it’s a good thing.they will still benefit from it.

echt · 15/08/2024 01:30

I'm close to 70 now so the reviled author of my childhood was Enid Blyton, whose books I devoured. Relax, don't comment on her choices, and be glad she loves reading.
Reading with children is great, as is modelling enthusiasm for books by your own reading.

stormywhethers321 · 15/08/2024 02:47

You know what I was reading at 12? Danielle Steele books. So many beautiful eighteen year old girls having torrid love affairs with their fathers friends and their friends fathers.

But it was a phase, and it passed. And by the time I was fourteen I had moved on to some really good books with real literary merit. It's all part of the process of becoming a lifelong reader. Tastes evolve. And literature is generally a fairly safe way for young people to begin feeling out where they stand on things.

bergamotorange · 15/08/2024 07:14

I loved the sweet valley high & babysitters club too! Did your parents give you a hard time for reading these?

Can't understand why someone who read SVH would be concerned about their kid reading JW.

JamSandle · 15/08/2024 07:17

Let her enjoy them

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 15/08/2024 07:19

Breakdancing · 14/08/2024 13:14

That's a very good point! It drives me mad as she's very academic but is just obsessed with J. W.. I was hoping she would be reading more educational books during the summer 😩

You’re being very unreasonable. It’s called “reading for pleasure” for a reason…

FloydWasACat · 15/08/2024 07:22

See if she likes 'I Capture The Castle' by Dodie Smith. Brilliant book for teen girls, and it's a classic (she also wrote '101 Dalmations')

Muteswan · 15/08/2024 07:31

I was utterly obsessed with Jacqueline Wilson at 12 and read English lit at Oxford at 18 so I don't think it did me any harm! I still love Jacqueline Wilson now, literally just finished a re-read of her Girls in Love series in preparation for her latest book coming out!

Oganesson118 · 15/08/2024 08:14

I read one or two when I was younger. Didn't think much of them in isolation but when I started looking for books for my 7 year old I started looking at JW and it feels like there's a thread of kids who have shitty things happen to them throughout all her books. Whilst it's not that I'm about to pearl clutch about it being inappropriate, it just all feels depressing and samey and very much like she was trying to make a point. Maybe when she's 11 or 12 I'll feel differently but I just don't think she'd understand it all now (I only looked as she's got a slightly higher reading age so I thought the language/length would be good but not the content for now)

meandkarmavibe · 15/08/2024 08:35

Needmorelego · 14/08/2024 21:43

@meandkarmavibe JW is still writing new books so there's plenty for "contemporary" children.

I was talking about books like Anne of Green Gables not JW

Definitelyrandom · 15/08/2024 08:35

Yes to PP who finds JW books depressing and samey. Almost verging on parody. I can see why children in similar circumstances might want to read them, but otherwise it’s a bit like reading misery memoirs. I wanted a bit of escapism at that age.

Needmorelego · 15/08/2024 08:53

@meandkarmavibe Apologies - I misunderstood what you meant 🙂

MrsToothyBitch · 15/08/2024 09:07

I read JW from about 8-11. I went on to read English Lit at a college of the University of London so I don't think a bit of JW held me back at all. I was - and still am- perfectly happy reading classics, Booker contenders and medieval passion plays in the original alongside chick lit or crime novels.

Quite honestly you need to leave her alone. Going on about "unsuitability" just breeds curiosity and trying to get her to read what you want her to read is more likely to put her off, particularly if she already isn't that interested. Summer holidays are also good for recharging - she may not be in the place to tackle something worthy right now. Don't put her off reading. Just tell her it's great that she does it.

I also grew up in a naice family in a naice area and attended naice schools. A lot of the issues in the JW books were also my first real exposure to people living different, more difficult lives in different circumstances or seeing the direct impact of things like divorce. They made me more empathetic. I remember reading Vicky Angel being the first time I understood grief as an all pervading, lasting concept.

I never read some of her first novels which were seemingly aimed at older teens, although I probably would have been allowed. My mother bought JW books for me and never said a word against them- I think she thought they widened my scope. That said, my parents were very open and there was very little censorship in our house. The only thing banned was Jackie Collins, my mum thought she was crude. At 12 I was reading Meg Cabot (Princess Diaries) and Louise Rennison, still collecting Lemony Snicket, all the Anne of Greengables and Little Women and various Anthony Horowitz books but also getting into Patricia Cornwell, Jilly Cooper, Dodie Smith, Maeve Binchy, Daphne du Maurier, Steinbeck, Laurie Lee, Margaret Drabble, H E Bates and others. One of my favourite books at that was a collection of stories of people who had encountered Anne Frank whilst in concentration camps.

When it came to YA novels though, I much preferred real life, slightly gritty or girls issues ones or straight historical fiction. Joan Lingard was a favourite. A lot of the YA stuff around at the time was fantasy and I've no interest in it so I did go looking for adult books rather than plod through Garth Nix to please my absolute cow of a school librarian who viewed a dislike of Dianne Wynne Jones or the Hobbit and similar as a character failing.

Also like a huge chunks of MN I make no apologies for a life long affection for the Chalet School.

BarnacleBeasley · 15/08/2024 09:19

I've just remembered that in a Judy Blume book (can't remember which one, maybe one of the more autobiographical ones) a character is reading Nancy Drew books and her mum or aunt doesn't approve because she thinks they're trashy! My mum, by contrast, never commented on anything I might choose to read - I've no idea if she had opinions. She quite enjoyed the Terry Pratchett phase though.

Wishimaywishimight · 15/08/2024 09:40

I started reading Stephen King at 11. I was in bed with chicken pox and my mum bought me The Shining, I have loved 'scary' books ever since!

Anyotherdude · 15/08/2024 10:48

On the one hand, I would be delighted that she’s reading, but on the other, if she were to get to the end of the JW books and not move onto some other authors I would be worried…
My own DD was fixated on animal books (one particular animal) and later on we discovered that this had been a sign of hidden ADHD, which caused all sorts of problems from age 15 to age 23 before she was properly diagnosed.
I, on the other hand, liked reading the body of an author’s work before moving onto another author: like PP, I was into Agatha Christie at that age, but I didn’t start Poirot until I’d read all the Miss Marple ones (a habit I kept until I discovered Discworld in my 20’s)
After AC I moved on to GK Chesterton, Graham Greene, Noel Coward, Arthur Conan Doyle, George Orwell Etc. I’d already at around 10 - 12 read all of the Narnia, LOTR and Hobbit, Swallows and Amazons books
Reading is amazing - encourage her to keep it up and branch out!

godmum56 · 15/08/2024 10:52

MrsSunshine2b · 14/08/2024 21:36

I don't really see why, I grew up in the 90s so I was already pretty far removed from the lives of Sara Crewe and Anne of Green Gables, but I still loved them. They just require a bit more concentration than Diary of a Wimpy Kid or Tracy Beaker and I definitely think concentration spans are going down. Mine certainly has done and it's a vicious cycle; the more time you spend chasing short term dopamine highs on a screen the harder it is to read or do something which requires concentration.

sorry I don't agree its an unavoidable given. I am still a voracious reader of all kinds of books and a voracious screen user too. I am 71 and never liked E. Nesbitt etcetera as a child. I read them as an adult and thought "oh Ok but meh" To people who don't want their child to re read but to "move on" I would suggest that the books are still giving the child something that they need which surely is the base reason for reading anything? to give the reader something that they need. Children today seem to have so much that they MUST do that to interfere with their reading choices to make them read something more "advanced" "educational" or whatever, especially during school holidays seems to me to be bonkers and a good way to stop their reading altogether.

Somepeoplearesnippy · 15/08/2024 10:58

I'm in my 60s, highly educated with numerous professional qualifications. I spent my summer holiday rereading the Little House on the Prairie series as I have done many times over the last 50 years. Over Easter I read several Chalet School books. None of them were challenging but they were hugely pleasurable.

Reading isn't only for education and self improvement. It's also for comfort, relaxation, rest and escapism. As an academic child whose parent clearly has high expectations of her, I can understand why she wants those things.

godmum56 · 15/08/2024 11:02

MrsToothyBitch · 15/08/2024 09:07

I read JW from about 8-11. I went on to read English Lit at a college of the University of London so I don't think a bit of JW held me back at all. I was - and still am- perfectly happy reading classics, Booker contenders and medieval passion plays in the original alongside chick lit or crime novels.

Quite honestly you need to leave her alone. Going on about "unsuitability" just breeds curiosity and trying to get her to read what you want her to read is more likely to put her off, particularly if she already isn't that interested. Summer holidays are also good for recharging - she may not be in the place to tackle something worthy right now. Don't put her off reading. Just tell her it's great that she does it.

I also grew up in a naice family in a naice area and attended naice schools. A lot of the issues in the JW books were also my first real exposure to people living different, more difficult lives in different circumstances or seeing the direct impact of things like divorce. They made me more empathetic. I remember reading Vicky Angel being the first time I understood grief as an all pervading, lasting concept.

I never read some of her first novels which were seemingly aimed at older teens, although I probably would have been allowed. My mother bought JW books for me and never said a word against them- I think she thought they widened my scope. That said, my parents were very open and there was very little censorship in our house. The only thing banned was Jackie Collins, my mum thought she was crude. At 12 I was reading Meg Cabot (Princess Diaries) and Louise Rennison, still collecting Lemony Snicket, all the Anne of Greengables and Little Women and various Anthony Horowitz books but also getting into Patricia Cornwell, Jilly Cooper, Dodie Smith, Maeve Binchy, Daphne du Maurier, Steinbeck, Laurie Lee, Margaret Drabble, H E Bates and others. One of my favourite books at that was a collection of stories of people who had encountered Anne Frank whilst in concentration camps.

When it came to YA novels though, I much preferred real life, slightly gritty or girls issues ones or straight historical fiction. Joan Lingard was a favourite. A lot of the YA stuff around at the time was fantasy and I've no interest in it so I did go looking for adult books rather than plod through Garth Nix to please my absolute cow of a school librarian who viewed a dislike of Dianne Wynne Jones or the Hobbit and similar as a character failing.

Also like a huge chunks of MN I make no apologies for a life long affection for the Chalet School.

I was well into adulthood when JW began to be a thing so haven't read them and I trained as an Occupational Therapist but I could have written the rest of your post (oh and not "naice area", deffo working class council housed but happy stable family life) What is it with bloody Garth Nix? which I loathe. Not fond of Diana Wynn Jones but I couldn't have read her as a child (too old) which may explain it. I loved the JRRT books and still respect them but am kind of over them now. Another Chalet School fan here, also a fan of Elsie Oxenbury (Abbey Girls).

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 15/08/2024 11:15

JW is great!if she likes that encourage Judy Blume too

Breakdancing · 15/08/2024 11:30

I loved the chalet school too, tried to get my my dd's through the local library & amazon but can't locate!

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BeachParty · 15/08/2024 11:35

Just be glad she's got an interest in reading!
I was a complete and total bookworm at 12 (still love books) and read so much.
Would have been pissed off if my mum had been the Book Police or whinged about what I was reading/what I should be reading instead!
Just leave me alone with my Lois Duncan and Judy Blume please 😁

BeachParty · 15/08/2024 11:39

BarnacleBeasley · 14/08/2024 14:03

OMG I remember Stranger With My Face. That was pretty disturbing. I did also read lots of Sweet Valley High, and a spin-off family saga all about generations of the Wakefield twins, complete with Bruce Patman-a-like villain in each generation. Now that was quality literature.

At school when I was 12, many of the other kids didn't read at all and I remember our English teacher telling us that it didn't matter what we read, even the back of the cereal packet, as long as we were doing it (this is for @Custardandrhubarbcrumble )

Absolutely loved Stranger With My Face by Louis Duncan.
Also Locked In Time where the family never aged was brilliant!

ManyATrueWord · 15/08/2024 11:42

I think Jacqueline Wilson writes very well. Over lockdown I did a book group where we re read What Katy Did and then JW's version "Katy". I thought it was good, the language was of a high enough standard. I've read a few others as an adult and I think JW has a good sense of how to make a reader feel, to empathise with the characters, and for me that is a very important part of writing.