Botox, how mainstream is it and what do you think of those who use it?

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Hi,

I noticed another thread asking what people thought of people not wearing makeup. It was quite interesting to read the responses on there. (In case it’s relevant, I usually wear some make up, but not on a daily basis.).

But the thing it made me wonder, is your thoughts on Botox, more specially on those who have it. I’m in my mid- thirties, and have used low dose Botox a couple of times. I don’t think I look frozen, as the botoxed area still moves with my expressions- maybe just slightly less than before.

I suppose my question is how wide spread do people think Botox use is? And what do you think of people who use it?

I don’t think I’m overly vein on the whole ( maybe more self-conscious). Like I said I don’t wear make up on a daily basis. I have paid for membership to a slimming app for the last 4 years or so though, so I guess that also shows some degree of high effort/ similar!

It's not without risk, but it's seems to be mainstream among the people I'm acquainted with.

One person had a drooping eye and face on one side, another had the surprised look, though that's more easily corrected. Another had hollowing under her eyes and another her eyes stung, and were bloodshot, following the botox. Just to warn.

I'm coming 40, could afford it and do "need" it but don't and won't have it. I'm very uncomfortable with the idea of women (largely) paralyzing muscles just to look younger than they are. I think Botox, fillers and any other injectables are a really worrying trend.

I don't judge people for using it though.

@Bushmillsbabe there’s something very wrong there, I agree

I do think it’s a bit sad that women are held to such higher standards than men. Like you only had to look at the friends reunion to see the disparity. All the men had aged and put weight on, the women had clearly done a lot of work to try and maintain what they had both facially and with their bodies. On the one hand it’s great they look so good and I did kind of recoil a bit when I saw the men but on the other hand it’s all a bit exhausting.

I know quite a few men who have Botox… and spend a lot of time in the gym or working on their nutrition. I think the balance is tipping, for good or bad.

@RJnomore1 This is true I guess. DH is ten years older than me and he’s considering getting it. Largely though because I have it and he’s worried it’s emphasising our age gap 🤣 I have no such concerns

I’m 47 and never considered it. I only know one friend who’s had it to my knowledge. I don’t think I need it as I don’t have wrinkles yet - plenty else wrong with me, just not that!

I like it, smooths me out a bit, doesn't look obvious and at £200 twice a year, I don't think it's too costly.

That’s interesting. The friend groups I am thinking of range from early 40s to late 50s. They use different people and (apologies) but you can tell the ones with more disposable cash as they use qualified doctors and it’s noticeable that it’s less noticeable. I know because we discuss it. The very best use a doctor who is also a sculptor.

The best ones look like they’ve had no work done but a very easy life.

It’s not essential and I’d never judge anyone for how they choose to look but I don’t like some of the disdain on this thread. Personally I don’t like lip fillers but I’d never translate that to someone else’s choice about their body and how they look.

If it's not affecting me/mine, then it's not my business.

Personally, I haven't had it, nor would I consider it. I look after my skin and have a daily routine. It has too much of a frozen look to be and not natural

I have done facial yoga for many years, which is a natural facial means of keeping the lines at bay.

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I have botox in my forehead (vanity) and my masseters (relief of jaw pain from grinding).

My forehead can look overdone so I have to really insist the therapist goes lightly. I think stopping my frown has made me more cheerful. The masseter injections are a life saver and I would prioritise these over forehead ones any day.

I don't have my eyes done - they are wrinkly but I like having laughter lines.

I get my 11s done and nothing else. I have a resting bitch face and the frown was definitely adding to it.
In my circle botox is incredibly popular and none of my friends/colleagues pretend they’re not having any injections. Nobody looks like real housewives, there are perhaps a couple of overdone foreheads every now and again but that doesn’t last forever. I don’t judge or care.
The new thing to me (and it certainly wasn’t the case when I was that age) are really young women using botox as preventative measure. Again, I don’t judge but there’s something about it that is making me feel uneasy. My friends’s daughter (late 20s) was getting married a couple of months ago and got her pictures heavily touched up because she felt that she looked the oldest out of all her friends due to no botox/fillers use. I don’t know how widespread this really is though because most of my friends are in their 40s/50s.

I love Botox and if you have a good injector, you don't look frozen .. was out for lunch today .. we talked about treatments I was told when I said I have Botox .. but it looks so natural and and I was also told I don't look my age .. I take that as a win

None of my business really.

Although it's very noticeable once you've had it a few times without allowing your facial muscles to regain their strength. The muscle atrophies and the forehead becomes shiny

So those who have it 6-9 monthly, rather than 3-4 monthly end up looking more natural over time.

I love Botox and if you have a good injector, you don't look frozen

You must pass on your injector's contact number to Hollywood.

There’s already studies that long term use causes damage. I wouldn’t touch it, in the future it’ll be one of those trends that causes harm to people. Think sunbeds and cigarettes etc.

Those that moan about it saying "you dont need it" often look like an old leather handbag anyway 🤣

Im nearly 60, never smoked, never EVER sunbathed and drink lots of water. I also have botox to STOP lines forming. Im often mistaken for being in my late 30's

One life ! Live life exactly how you want and to please yourself

I get it occasionally. Everyone I know (early 40s onwards) does it too (Botox, fillers). It’s quite normalised.

I just think it is a shame the lengths people feel they must go to to fit a certain look and not allowed to look older. What a weird society we have become.

it’s very common now, I know work colleagues getting it in their 20’s which is a bit mad. I have heavy forehead lines but I’m not convinced Botox would make me look any better. If I get 11 lines I will definitely get it - I don’t want to look angry all the time.

It’s use is more widespread than you’d imagine. I have friends who are not yet even 30 that are already using it.

I can tell when someone’s had it, and it starts to look terrible with repeated use.

I don't know or suspect I know anyone who has had it, but I bet I do.
I haven't and I am not worried about wrinkles - I quite like them.
But I am fortunate to have finally got to a place where I like myself and how I look.
However, if someone rich said to me that they would pay for botox, I would give it a go. I would be curious.

Botox permanently damaged my eye muscles and ruined my life. I now need specialist surgery to try and repair the muscles (if they can) The muscles are effectively useless a year on.

Contrary to a post up thread. Botox can and does spread, mine spread into my eye muscle tissue and nerves. There’s no guarantee any ill effects will wear off. There are so many of us with horrible side effects that nobody seems to care about because it didn’t happen to them.

I wish I could go back and tell my wrinkly self to just be happy.

Can I ask who administered the Botox? And if it was your forehead or the area around the eyes that was being injected?

Either way, I’m very sorry this happened to you. It sounds horrible.