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To ask when dachshunds became 'dash hounds'?

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FlutterShite · 27/12/2023 22:06

I've always known their name to be pronounced 'dahks-hunts' or 'daks-hunds' - given it's a German word and all that. Suddenly though, I hear people with sausage dogs calling them 'dash-unds' or even 'dash-hounds'. When did this happen? Is there a reason for it, like when German shepherd dogs were temporarily rebranded as Alsatians?

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ShazzaF · 28/12/2023 00:26

JaninaDuszejko · 27/12/2023 22:43

Words get anglicanised over time if used a lot. Like hotel. Frankly the sooner people start saying chorizo with an English accent rather the abomination that is 'choritzo' the better, ironically saying chorizzo would be closer to how some Spanish speakers say it.

I had an interesting conversation with my MIL who is a native Spanish speaker. We were talking (in English) about Cervantes's masterpiece and she called it 'Don /kwɪkˈsɒt/'. Now obviously as a native Spanish speaker she knows how to pronounce Quixote but she has lived in the UK since the 60s so presumably in the 60s Brits pronounced Quixote in an anglicanised way so she learnt to say that in English whereas now I think most educated Brits would make an attempt at the Spanish pronounciation. Of course we say quixotic with completely anglicanised pronounciation /kwɪkˈsɒtɪk/

Interesting! I have a friend who was born and raised in England but who has a Spanish mother and therefore speaks it fluently and it was the language spoken at home.

I always hear her pronounce words like jalapeño, paella, tortilla, etc. in a very anglicised way when speaking English. Obviously I'm sure she pronounces them properly when speaking Spanish!

Rowgtfc72 · 28/12/2023 00:34

I pronounce it the German way but I'm part of a dachsund meetup group and they're either dash hounds or sausages. I call mine sausage mostly.
When we first got him we bumped into a load of secondary school kids who sang the wiener dog song to him. That was strange.
He has a ginger bum and eyebrows but is a chocolate dapple and looks like he's had a tin of paint thrown at him.

Not a fan of the American version 'Doxies'

Definitely stubborn. He thinks he's a parrot on my shoulder and will happily totter off on a five mile walk.

Scariest, most aggressive dog I've ever come across was a chihuahua.

rosiepozis · 28/12/2023 00:56

Well, ‘dacks-hund’ isn’t really correct either. Most English people aren’t going to be saying the German ‘ch’ correctly, even if they aren’t saying it ‘dash’. I wouldn’t feel too superior.

SabrinaThwaite · 28/12/2023 01:03

mottytotty · 27/12/2023 22:41

Do you also wonder why Brits pronounce the French word ‘lieutenant’ as “leftenant’?

Language evolves.

If you’re Senior Service then you don’t say “leftenant”.

iklboo · 28/12/2023 01:11

I call them dachshunds. Am I weird?

Somethingsnappy · 28/12/2023 09:06

rosiepozis · 28/12/2023 00:56

Well, ‘dacks-hund’ isn’t really correct either. Most English people aren’t going to be saying the German ‘ch’ correctly, even if they aren’t saying it ‘dash’. I wouldn’t feel too superior.

I was just about to write the same thing!

MagpiePi · 28/12/2023 09:33

With the sausage dogs, it's more like noticing for the first time that people are buying up Rottweiler pups and calling them Redwailers or something.

They pronounce it rott - wheeler in Australia, and consider them to big softies, not vicious brutes.

DonnaBanana · 28/12/2023 09:55

The British pronunciation of “lieutenant” stems from a similar misunderstanding. We mess up a lot of words. Even the Americans get that one right.

ErrolTheRednosedDragon · 28/12/2023 09:59

Re the OPs question about the timing of the 'dash hound' pronunciation - it's been commonplace for decades. We got our first dachshund in 1996 when people would comment 'ooh, you don't see many of those nowadays' and it'd be probably at least half of people then. We lost our second last year at nearly 17 so I've had quite a long period of observation. While there are definitely far more dachsies around now (probably too many, where are all these dapples coming from?), I'm not sure there's been an overall linguistic drift during this period.

However it may be more noticeable at this time of year because - well, just do an image search for 'dachshund through the snow' Grin

AnnieSnap · 28/12/2023 11:23

RampantIvy · 27/12/2023 23:35

Vimerarner?

Yes, people have trouble with the number of syllables as well as the w/v though

Poppysmom22 · 28/12/2023 12:32

I know how to say it properly but I like to call them dash hounds

CatinSlippers · 28/12/2023 12:39

I call them dachshunds but my mum is Dutch and always referred to them with the properly pronounced name. I never heard the ‘dash’ version until recently. Everyone seemed to call them ‘sausage dogs’.

Brumbies · 28/12/2023 12:42

cynan · 27/12/2023 22:10

I call them sausage dogs and they have the ugliest backsides. Why on earth is the fur on the rear end two tone with the paler fur drawing the eye to the bum hole? Also paws that are quite demon like fur their size.

Stop looking if it offends so much.

FlutterShite · 28/12/2023 17:41

Sconehenge · 28/12/2023 00:12

I know it’s meant to be said dakshund but when I say it that way no one knows what I’m talking about so I just say dash-hound or even better, sausage dog. Same way that people look at me with pity when I pronounce the “T” in Moët, even though that’s the correct way 😂

Yes! The pitying look - 'Aww bless, you mean Moway?'

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FlutterShite · 28/12/2023 17:50

ErrolTheRednosedDragon · 28/12/2023 09:59

Re the OPs question about the timing of the 'dash hound' pronunciation - it's been commonplace for decades. We got our first dachshund in 1996 when people would comment 'ooh, you don't see many of those nowadays' and it'd be probably at least half of people then. We lost our second last year at nearly 17 so I've had quite a long period of observation. While there are definitely far more dachsies around now (probably too many, where are all these dapples coming from?), I'm not sure there's been an overall linguistic drift during this period.

However it may be more noticeable at this time of year because - well, just do an image search for 'dachshund through the snow' Grin

Thanks, this kind of thing is what I was wondering about (rather than wanting to parade around in my golden chariot feeling like the world's most superior Hochdeutsch dog-pronouncer, as one or two seem to have assumed!).

Isn't 17 pretty old for a sausage dog? How lovely that you had so long together.

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Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 28/12/2023 17:55

When people stopped reading books and English became a purely aural and colloquial language, not based in learning or education at all. Take heart though, in ten years time even the word dash hound won't exist as it will have been universally replaced by a puppy emoji.

ErrolTheRednosedDragon · 28/12/2023 18:30

Isn't 17 pretty old for a sausage dog? How lovely that you had so long together.

Not too uncommon for minis, but he was a standard. Not such a dash-hound in the last few years of course but still the best of boys.

Eigen · 28/12/2023 19:58

FlutterShite · 28/12/2023 17:41

Yes! The pitying look - 'Aww bless, you mean Moway?'

OMFG this annoys we so much as well. I feel like swiping back with ‘if you mean the utter shit you’re carrying which I’m only having because it’s marginally better than Prosecco then yes. Unless you’d rather I just took my money home and bought another actually good grower champagne for my cellar, of course’.

Moët is pleb champagne

WiddlinDiddlin · 28/12/2023 20:39

VeganNugsNotDrugs · 27/12/2023 23:18

Other pronunciations as asked...

Weimaraner - "Vy-mer-ah-ner" (German)
Malinois - "mah-lun-wah"

I will give up with xoloitzcuintli and just stick with Mexican hairless

Sho-low-itz-KWEENT-ly but I stick to sholo, not that it comes up all that often even working with dogs!

TempestTost · 30/12/2023 17:54

ShazzaF · 28/12/2023 00:26

Interesting! I have a friend who was born and raised in England but who has a Spanish mother and therefore speaks it fluently and it was the language spoken at home.

I always hear her pronounce words like jalapeño, paella, tortilla, etc. in a very anglicised way when speaking English. Obviously I'm sure she pronounces them properly when speaking Spanish!

I wish people would move back to appreciating having words adapted into local pronunciation, at least in most instances. It's a normal part of language, makes for nice local colour, and there is nothing intrinsically wrong with it.

Weirdly we don't expect people speaking other languages to try and mangle English words in an English accent.

ErrolTheRednosedDragon · 30/12/2023 18:02

Weirdly we don't expect people speaking other languages to try and mangle English words in an English accent.

True... English spoken with some accents (French, Italian...) often sounds nicer than quite a few British/other anglophone accents.

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