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High earner query - basically over 100% tax on xmas bonus.

710 replies

NameChangeBonus · 17/11/2023 22:23

My employer has decided to be very generous and give everyone £5k cash bonus this Xmas (in previous years they have given £2k). I have adjusted my salary sacrifice pension contributions so I earn approximately £96k gross. I cannot amend this until April as per my employer policy. I thought there was enough buffer for bonus and benefits.

problem is if I earn over £100k (I have 2 kids aged 1 and 3 in full time nursery)

  • I will pay 60 % tax on my bonus
  • i will become ineligible for tax free childcare - worth £333 per month,£4k per year
  • I will become ineligible for 30 hours childcare for DD1 - worth £600 per month, £7k per year.

basically because I’m getting this bonus we’ll be much worse off financially - is there anything I can do to avoid this?

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Blanc4 · 18/11/2023 08:16

omg seriously things are tight !!
earning that much money and your partner works as well !

you wanna try living on ssp of £104 a week due to surgery !
Shane you choose to have kids but stick then in a nursery !
whats the point

ThePoshUns · 18/11/2023 08:18

justabigdisco · 17/11/2023 22:28

Maybe spend it on having your diamond shoes re-sized?

Jealousy isn't a nice quality in a person.

Blanc4 · 18/11/2023 08:21

I’d rather be home with my kids than stick my kids in a nursery

Caterpillarsleftfoot · 18/11/2023 08:22

justabigdisco · 17/11/2023 22:28

Maybe spend it on having your diamond shoes re-sized?

People like you are pathetic. It's a very valid problem and a very unfair one.

ThePoshUns · 18/11/2023 08:24

NameChangeBonus · 17/11/2023 23:41

I’m sorry I used the words ‘quite tight’.
we have 1500 after childcare and mortgage and council tax:
350 - gas and electric
100 - furniture loan
100 - internet, phone bills, Netflix and prime
400 - food and household items, nappies etc
350 - commuting costs (petrol, car maintenance, insurance, train fares)
thats £1200

that leaves £50 per week for clothes, shoes any birthdays, xmas, ad hoc purchases, dentist extra food etc. also things like home contents insurance, repairs etc.

sorry if others don’t think this is right but it feels like it to us.

You'd don't owe anyone an explanation OP, your question was a fair one and it's not like you don't work for your money!
Sad to see so many envious and spiteful responses.

Caterpillarsleftfoot · 18/11/2023 08:24

Blanc4 · 18/11/2023 08:21

I’d rather be home with my kids than stick my kids in a nursery

But some people have to pay a mortgage and have careers.

Also I do hope your husband earns enough for you to comfortably live off with no benefit claims. Stating at home is only a lifestyle choice of you can do it with no government help.

redxlondon · 18/11/2023 08:25

justabigdisco · 17/11/2023 22:28

Maybe spend it on having your diamond shoes re-sized?

I take it you don’t live in a city….

when childcare is £2,200 per month, a £100,000 salary isn’t being spent on diamond shoes!!!

5thCommandment · 18/11/2023 08:26

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Trevorton · 18/11/2023 08:27

justabigdisco · 17/11/2023 22:28

Maybe spend it on having your diamond shoes re-sized?

What a stupid comment.

uhOhOP · 18/11/2023 08:28

ohdamnitjanet · 18/11/2023 07:57

Of course I don’t earn anywhere near her salary, hardly anyone does. But I have no debt either, so I’m perfectly fine. But a lot of people aren’t, and use food banks, and have no heat, or can’t pay their rent. I would say most posters here aren’t bitter, I’m most definitely not, but aghast at how tone deaf she is in todays climate.
Being so condescending isn’t a great look either.

Ah, but at least those people have access to food banks. What about those people living in the middle of a genocide? Or people who will be living on the street through the winter, in the lashing rain and the snow, and over Christmas. Both are so much worse off, and would probably rather like to have the problem of having to get their food from food banks. 🙄

babbygabby · 18/11/2023 08:29

OP is in the top 7% of earners

top 7% of all earners or paye earners?

redxlondon · 18/11/2023 08:31

Blanc4 · 18/11/2023 08:21

I’d rather be home with my kids than stick my kids in a nursery

WTAF!!!! Most of us need to work for our income.

TolkiensFallow · 18/11/2023 08:31

I would ask for a bit less and some extra leave to try to balance it. Or see if you can purchase more annual leave.

ShadowCipher · 18/11/2023 08:32

Blanc4 · 18/11/2023 08:16

omg seriously things are tight !!
earning that much money and your partner works as well !

you wanna try living on ssp of £104 a week due to surgery !
Shane you choose to have kids but stick then in a nursery !
whats the point

but then why is it a race to the bottom ? everyone is different, its down to the various companies and location eg london etc

clowningaround6 · 18/11/2023 08:32

Blanc4 · 18/11/2023 08:21

I’d rather be home with my kids than stick my kids in a nursery

We'll be thankful to op and others, who allow you to do this

babbygabby · 18/11/2023 08:32

I’d rather be home with my kids than stick my kids in a nursery

@Blanc4 I think your kids would rather you weren’t an idiot 🤷🏻‍♀️

TodayForTomorrow · 18/11/2023 08:32

Can't believe people are still putting the boot in.

Dibblydoodahdah · 18/11/2023 08:33

Blanc4 · 18/11/2023 08:21

I’d rather be home with my kids than stick my kids in a nursery

And you expect people like the OP to fund that luxury but then come on here and criticise her.

NewLifter · 18/11/2023 08:33

Dibblydoodahdah · 18/11/2023 08:33

And you expect people like the OP to fund that luxury but then come on here and criticise her.

Perfect answer!

Blanc4 · 18/11/2023 08:34

When my kids were little my hubbie was a higher wage earner (£ 80 k ?at the time )
yes we had a mortgage and had no benefits

I chose to give up my career and be with my kids
It’s about living within your means

ThePoshUns · 18/11/2023 08:34

Well said @Dibblydoodahdah .

sep135 · 18/11/2023 08:35

Thanks Charlie2121, it's been a while since I studied tax.

Some of the comments here are entirely unnecessary. The OP earns a high salary, pays a decent whack of tax and is entitled to ask a perfectly reasonable question just as much as those on lower salaries.

When did we become a country that despises high earners? The top 1% of earners pay 30% of income tax. The current state of public services is a common theme on MN yet we berate and shame those who are paying a significant amount of tax towards them.

EasterIssland · 18/11/2023 08:35

Blanc4 · 18/11/2023 08:34

When my kids were little my hubbie was a higher wage earner (£ 80 k ?at the time )
yes we had a mortgage and had no benefits

I chose to give up my career and be with my kids
It’s about living within your means

How does your comment answer the op with her question ?

Sweetlily99 · 18/11/2023 08:35

Add to your pension. There is a 60% tax trap as you earn over 100k - 120k (i think) because of personal allowance.

Google it and you will see

Dibblydoodahdah · 18/11/2023 08:35

Blanc4 · 18/11/2023 08:34

When my kids were little my hubbie was a higher wage earner (£ 80 k ?at the time )
yes we had a mortgage and had no benefits

I chose to give up my career and be with my kids
It’s about living within your means

Well you’re not just living on SSP then are you! Make up your mind.