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When do boys become Mr rather then Master?

76 replies

BrightBlueHue · 23/04/2023 12:56

Helping DS (16) to complete his college application.

Title HAS to be filled in.

Question is, when do boys become a Mr? 16 or 18? There seems to be a mixed response online.

Posting here for traffic!

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CurlewKate · 23/04/2023 17:09

Sadly @Topseyt123 that's not true. It's one of those things loads of people genuinely think they remember but they don't.The phenomenon's got a name but I can't remember what it is.

CurlewKate · 23/04/2023 17:13

It's called The Mandela Effect.

SirTarquin · 23/04/2023 17:20

If your surname is Bate, on birth.

GroovyGangConscript · 23/04/2023 17:29

CurlewKate · 23/04/2023 17:09

Sadly @Topseyt123 that's not true. It's one of those things loads of people genuinely think they remember but they don't.The phenomenon's got a name but I can't remember what it is.

There was a 'Master Mate'. At some point in the 80s a student mag did a parody, turning 'Master Mate' into 'Master Bates' and adding a 'Seaman Staines'. Then a (now defunct) paper called The Sunday Correspondent reported the existence of these characters as if true, in a weekly 'things you didn't know' type feature. The Guardian then followed suit.

I was a teenager at the time and used to read The Sunday Correspondent, which was usually quite good - I thought the Master Bates story was untrue and even dug out a childhood Pugwash book to confirm the fact to myself.

Sometime later the author sued and the papers had to print a retraction, including the memorable line 'and in particular, the characters Bates and Staines did not appear' 😃

spacechimp79 · 23/04/2023 17:34

I think master until they turn 16

TheNoodlesIncident · 23/04/2023 17:40

They were Master until they became Esquire which was quite young (Esquire was a kind of apprentice to a knight I think) so I'd say primary age is OK for Master but beyond that I'd definitely go Mister.

DS (14) is Mr on his bank card and I thought of it as being Mister rather than Master as to me, he seems too old to be Master (I don't know if having a bank account with card contributes to that feeling, maybe). His GM used to address his birthday and Christmas cards as Master but even she stopped that at about ten iirc.

IDontWantToBeAPie · 23/04/2023 18:02

@SocksAndTheCity I usually choose Duchess or Captain myself 😂

HappiestSleeping · 23/04/2023 18:24

ShadowPuppets · 23/04/2023 13:23

I generally stop putting Master on eg birthday cards when boys turn 13. I wouldn’t use Master for a 16 year old.

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Etiquette is 13 onwards is Mr.

MereDintofPandiculation · 23/04/2023 18:28

Topseyt123 · 23/04/2023 13:38

🤣🤣🤣

I remember Master Bates from the children's TV series "Captain Pugwash" all those years ago. 🤣 That must date me! I didn't get the joke there until I was a teenager/young adult. 😁

Master Bates was not in Pugwash. Neither was Roger the Cabin Boy. The cabin boy was Tom, and the First Mate was known as Master Mate

CecilyP · 23/04/2023 18:28

BrightBlueHue · 23/04/2023 13:17

@LordEmsworth it does have Master as an option, otherwise I wouldn’t be asking the question.

That’s weird! I can’t understand why a college that doesn’t even take little boys would have that as an option!

CurlewKate · 23/04/2023 18:57

Esquire if professional or expected to be. It's a courtesy title for people with no titles. ( ITHINK in the states it means you're a lawyer, but I might be wrong.) Mr otherwise. But normal people these days just use First Name Last Name unless it's a business letter.

Bayleaf25 · 23/04/2023 18:59

Probably around 12? Only really used master for young children. Not sure there’s an official rule though.

TroysMammy · 23/04/2023 19:03

When registering new patients in the NHS there is no longer a Master option. The Master title given years ago is not automatically updated when a boy reaches 16. I've seen Masters in their 20s and 30s. I notice and amend them, my colleagues don't even notice their titles.

ThreeblackCats · 23/04/2023 19:13

Get your tape measure out op. If his cock is longer than 4 inches he’s a Mr.

TheScottishPlay · 23/04/2023 19:24

It doesn't matter of course but traditionally boys were Master until age 8 when they went 'up to school'. Until age 18 they were referred to by name. At 18 they became Mr.

User1438423 · 23/04/2023 19:31

I thought 16 or 18. All those people who thought nobody used it anymore, have you never had prescriptions for your son's? Always says master on those.

TimeToBreakFree · 23/04/2023 19:32

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 23/04/2023 13:25

You ALWAYS use Mister if your surname is Bates.

😂

User1438423 · 23/04/2023 19:32

Also disagree about it being age 8. At my school (secondary) all the boys were addressed master surname right through to when I left age 16. And there WAS a Master Bates, which is why I remember.

Notellinganyone · 23/04/2023 19:33

Master is very old fashioned. I wouldn’t use it at any age.

DiscoBeat · 23/04/2023 19:36

I always thought it was more an outdated thing that elderly relatives use - the only time my boys are addressed as Master are birthday cards from their Great Aunts.
I would definitely encourage him to use Mr.

ThinWomansBrain · 23/04/2023 19:38

Master sound pretentious
If he's applying for a job he expects to be treated as an adult?

mathanxiety · 23/04/2023 19:51

Has he graduated from short to long trews?

If yes, then he's Mr.

Wenfy · 23/04/2023 19:52

I have always used Mr for ds and Ms for my dd.

User1438423 · 23/04/2023 20:59

I find it odd that people think master is old fashioned and trite, even though they can graduate to Mr whenever they please, without marriage. Yet miss is still very much in use and the overwhelming majority don't see a problem with it and how sexist the difference is. I find it cringey to see Miss on adult women, and wish more would use Ms regardless of their marital status.

Notellinganyone · 24/04/2023 07:48

@User1438423 - I feel the same way about Miss. I think both are outdated. I really don’t think we need titles any more at all.

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