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£675 to fit 9 curtain rails

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sprunggreens · 22/03/2023 20:28

I'm really lost with how much handy man type jobs should cost at the moment. I've had several quotes for bigger jobs that have ranged from £6k-24k, a sofa re-cover that's been quoted £2k-3.5k (more than a new one costs). Paint jobs in the thousands and I can't judge if I'm being ripped off. My house is unusual and impressive and I think the trades people might be adding on £££. I can do a bit myself but I want these curtain rails straight and strong and it's hard for me to do it myself (with the kids under my feet). I don't know anyone who can do this for me. Is £675 too much for 9 curtain rails? It's £75 per rail.

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TiredandLate · 23/03/2023 07:38

That's crazy! I'm renovating a house and 9 times out of 10 I'll get a quote, almost pass out, and do the job myself. My skills have improved very quickly, I wouldn't think twice about putting a curtain rail up (now). Start with the least used room as practice, or drill the brackets onto a scrap a scrap piece of wood first as practice.

I've also found that once you eventually find a reasonable tradesman they will quote and turn up reliably for subsequent jobs, and recommend reasonable trades for other jobs, and then it's not as painful. Hang in there.

FourTeaFallOut · 23/03/2023 07:38

Look around for another price if you feel you can get it done cheaper. It makes me laugh when people are carrying on about a fair price - what the fuck has fair got to do with it?

Do you just look at someone in a trade and then guess what their daily rate should be based on your idea of how much money they should have - in relation to what - how much money you have?

Because that's how money works in a capitalist market? Right?

Cosmos123 · 23/03/2023 07:40

In London
2 curtian poles put up
Toilet seat replaced
Bathroom door handle and lock replaced

£60.

mewkins · 23/03/2023 07:40

MsGrumpytrousers · 22/03/2023 22:19

If you're no good at it, then I don't quite see how you can be so sure that it's a simple easy job.

It is a simple job. It is measuring and then drilling two holes.

Cosmos123 · 23/03/2023 07:41

mewkins · 23/03/2023 07:40

It is a simple job. It is measuring and then drilling two holes.

This

Devoutspoken · 23/03/2023 07:43

Or use airtasker, you can say how much you'd like to pay for the job, people can say yes or quote more depending

whateverwillbewillbewontit · 23/03/2023 07:53

sprunggreens · 22/03/2023 21:02

Sorry, I should say less than an hour each. I should just try and do one each day but I'm not confident and want them done properly.

I think it would be cheaper to hire a babysitter for the day so that you could have a kid-free day to get on with it.

£675 is a huge sum of money! Have you tried posting in local FB groups to look for a local 'handy man'? It's a good way to find local reputable people plus the fact that people are recommending them helps you to know they're reliable too.

ZombiePara · 23/03/2023 07:57

I paid for the people we bought from (very tiny group of new builds) to put up curtain poles for us as we figured if they effed up they would have to put right and it would be done better...

Since moving in I've had to redrill holes for 2 poles and actually use rawl plugs to keep them in place.

Complete shambles and waste of money, further proven by their sheer ineptitude and inability to sort a snagging list.

(£175 for 4 to be fitted - 1 XL one which was the main reason for getting them to do it - length and a heavyweight pole).

I have since helped a friend put theirs up - 3 bedrooms and a lounge, and while not spot on perfect, they look pretty damn good! Mostly the lounge that looks a little off, but my friend is redoing her lounge this year so it was only a temporary solution (and involved a recess/building a wooden block up for the rail!)

Best tip OP - spend a little bit on getting a spirit level, decent tape measure, and go wild. Something deeply satusfying about doing them yourself...

ZombiePara · 23/03/2023 07:58
  • satisfying

(To qualify the rawl plug comment - only some holes had them, and the wobbles were where there were none...surprise surprise)

ItstheZwartbles · 23/03/2023 08:04

£75 per rail sounds fine.

It's literally drilling a couple of holes and screwing a rail to the wall. If people are willing to pay this then I'm changing careers!

OnaBegonia · 23/03/2023 08:19

I have to say I'm pretty surprised that anyone pays to have a curtain rail put up, it's incredibly simple.
Also who the hell pays £22k for curtains?

Xarrie · 23/03/2023 08:47

£15,000 for curtains?

Fuck that.

Go to Dunelm.

Chowtime · 23/03/2023 09:49

Not gonna read the full thread but thats way too much money for a curtain rail. I paid £25 per blind/rail for the whole of my house using a young lad who works for a blind company.

Just keep looking and eventually you'll find a reasonably priced handyman that you trust to do a good job. It might take a couple of years though as it did me.

Regarding having a big impressive house - when you get someone in to do a quote - shut all the doors for the parts of the house he doesn't need to see. So if you need a quote for the dishwasher repair man, just go in kitchen and keep all other doors closed so he can't see what you've got.

Chowtime · 23/03/2023 09:50

OnaBegonia · 23/03/2023 08:19

I have to say I'm pretty surprised that anyone pays to have a curtain rail put up, it's incredibly simple.
Also who the hell pays £22k for curtains?

Most DIY jobs are simple, I agree. I'm intelligent and could do most things - the probably I have is that I haven't much physical strength, being a 9 stone 5 foot woman.

OnaBegonia · 23/03/2023 10:05

@Chowtime
A curtain rail doesn't take physical strength, women need to stop this oh I'm too small/weak attitude, unless disabled most general DIY jobs are achievable.

BrendaWearingBaffies · 23/03/2023 10:14

Learn how to do it yourself. Wait until the evening when kids are fast asleep so you get peace to do the job. I often have to do all my DIY when they are all out at school or in evenings when they are asleep. That's life. DH is shite so I have to get on with most stuff myself 🤷

BrendaWearingBaffies · 23/03/2023 10:16

OnaBegonia · 23/03/2023 10:05

@Chowtime
A curtain rail doesn't take physical strength, women need to stop this oh I'm too small/weak attitude, unless disabled most general DIY jobs are achievable.

Hear hear🙌

Kazzyhoward · 23/03/2023 10:17

Just shop around. Surely you don't buy Heinz beans from any old shop without checking their prices. The reality is that people charge different prices. It's basic economics of supply & demand. If a tradesman is busy and doesn't "need" your work, he'll almost certainly charge on the high side. If someone has an empty diary and "need" the work, they'll be more competitively priced. Likewise depends on their skills - a general handyman will usually be a lot less than say a plumber or electrician or master joiner. It's also not a matter of how easy or how hard the job is - it's the use of the guy's time - he could be doing something more complicated somewhere else, so he'll charge on an hourly or day rate rather than what skills the job needs.

We've had wildly different quotes for identical work - worst was a tiny back porch we wanted replacing - quotes were between £2.5k and £10k.

But ultimately, fixing curtain poles is probably one of the easiest jobs to do yourself. If there's already a wooden plinth above the window, you don't even need a drill as you can just screw into the wood (maybe use a bradawl to make small holes to guide the screws). Even if you need to drill into the plaster, all you need is a cheap drill (electric under £50, or you can get a hand drill for a tenner), a screwdriver and a spirit level. Most curtain poles come with a pack of screws and wall plugs. Drill a hole at one end, fix the fixings to it. Then offer up the curtain pole, level it with the spirit level and make a small pencil mark at the other end, where you need to drill the holes for that end.

Kazzyhoward · 23/03/2023 10:26

OnaBegonia · 23/03/2023 10:05

@Chowtime
A curtain rail doesn't take physical strength, women need to stop this oh I'm too small/weak attitude, unless disabled most general DIY jobs are achievable.

Yep, fully agree. I've just finished fully decorating our DS's room. Decorator wanted to charge £1,200 and said it would take a week. That's on top of the materials, etc. I stripped it myself (half day), sanded down all the woodwork (1 hour). Filled all cracks, gaps, holes and then sanded down (2 hours). Undercoated it all (2 hours). Top coated it all (2 hours). Repapered it all (1 full day). The job is immaculate and I'm very proud of myself - every bit as good as a professional decorator would have taken and less time - not to mention saving myself £1,200.

Last time we had a decorator in, the job was, again, a full week, but he came and went constantly, doing half day here and there, arriving mid morning, leaving mid afternoon, long lunch breaks, going to buy more materials, etc. We were basically paying for his time to do other things, i.e. quoting for other jobs, probably doing other small jobs alongside, etc. Even then we could see the joins on the wallpaper, rough cuts top and bottom, paint drips everywhere, and horrendously untidy papering around light switches and sockets.

OH has just been on the roof (single story part of house) to replace a cracked tile and replace a leaky gutter. The roofers we got quotes from were around £500 plus materials. It took OH an hour.

I think we all need to be getting smarter, doing more DIY, etc. The shortage of tradesmen is only going to get worse, and they're going to be more likely to give poor service and over charge!

Brefugee · 23/03/2023 10:29

I'm really lost with how much handy man type jobs should cost at the moment.

if you don't want to pay, do it yourself. If you can't do it yourself ask around for quotes and take the one that fits your circumstances best.
it's not really rocket science. If you can't do something, you have to pay someone to do it, whether that's heart surgery (would you quibble on price?) changing a wheel or putting up curtain rails.

Why do you think a "handyman" shouldn't have a good grasp on the value of his time/skills? Maybe you should ask a handywoman, in theory she should be around 7-15% cheaper depending on which studies you look at.

Zipps · 23/03/2023 10:29

Ridiculous. £20 per curtain rail last November.

Brefugee · 23/03/2023 10:38

also echo the pp who say that he doesn't want the job and has quoted high.

I'm quite baffled though, how people don't a) get at least 3 quotes and b) think that people should price themselves too low.

I make clothes (for myself) when people ask me to make them, i will give them the actual cost of fabrics etc, and then my time, including the time talking about what they want, buying the fabric etc, and every second of the time i spend on the garment (in 15 minute chunks). And i don't pay myself NMW for that, i value my time and expertise. And if it's something i really don't want to make for some reason (don't like the person, the fabric, the garment) I'll often double it to make them go away 😃

QueenCamilla · 23/03/2023 10:52

@Brefugee

Do you pay yourself £100 an hour? Or maybe £1800 a day? Those are the labour quotes I've had for simple (much more simple than clothes making) jobs.

Maybe you work for Gucci and you do.. 🤷

Brefugee · 23/03/2023 11:10

i charge 25 euros an hour if i want to do it, and 50-60 euros an hour if i don't.

But i also charge a minimum of 4 hours, and i expect everything to be delivered to me in advance of the project, not to have to faff about waiting for them to get the thread, the lining, the buttons.

If i have to break into my stash for interfacing or something because they bought the wrong one, or whatever (if it's their mistake) I charge them the retail cost plus half an hour to go and buy it.

It works well because i hate sewing for anyone else, and only my really good friends will ever even think about asking me to sew something. Win win for me.

Bearing in mind that it's not my actual business and just a hobby. Anyone who moans? are told exactly how much it costs to get a fitted suit made or something.