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To be in disbelief that this can happen on a public hospital ward?

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JackiePlace · 10/03/2023 10:40

I'm talking about this horrific story. Surely someone saw something! My heart goes out to this poor lady's family.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/21646082/grandmother-75-bleeds-to-death/

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Mothership4two · 12/03/2023 01:12

PurplePineapple1 · 11/03/2023 23:20

I've spent a huge amount of time in 3 hospitals lately. Yes you have had to 'buzz' for entry but nobody has once asked me who I am, who I'm visiting etc. It would be completely easy to do pretty much anything.

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My FIL spent a month on an orthopaedic ward over Christmas and yes we did just walk in to visit. I was never challenged but not sure about the rest of the family. Visitors had to wear masks so pretty sure they didn't know who was coming and going. The staff were so stretched that there was no way they could keep a constant eye on everyone. Hospital on South Coast of England.

MrsMorton · 12/03/2023 13:21

mathanxiety · 12/03/2023 00:39

You can bet that if bp monitoring is routinely done in the US, it's because it's a lot more cost effective than the alternative. Cost effective means avoiding the sort of problems that can cost a lot more money than bp machines. I don't think the NHS does adequate risk benefit analysis. And clearly the money isn't there regardless, so the question is moot. There is neither enough staff nor sufficient appropriate medical equipment because of money, not because providing the equipment wouldn't be a good idea.

If it's done in the US, you can bet it's because it's billable.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 12/03/2023 13:25

If it's done in the US, you can bet it's because it's billable.

Exactly what I was thinking!

Theresamooselooseabootthishoose · 12/03/2023 13:28

It doesn’t shock me in the slightest unfortunately, my poor grandad who had a broken hip and suffered from dementia was left on a mental health ward in December 2022 with criminals and forensic inmates naked with only 1 HCA and 1 nurse staffing numerous female and male wards while the odd Dr popped in and out. He died within days as they failed to notice he was suffering from internal bleeding from the hip operation he had days prior and left to die.

It was heartbreaking.

mathanxiety · 12/03/2023 19:03

If it's done in the US, you can bet it's because it's billable.

@MrsMorton
It's billable because it is cost effective. It's far cheaper to monitor bp than deal with the effects of a second stroke discovered five hours after it happened, or whenever the overworked nurse has the time to take bp readings or check on patients overnight.

Insurance companies turn down bills for monitoring and interventions that are not evidenced.

Scoff all you like at the US and its health 'system' - patient care is as much determined by money in the NHS as it is in the US.

The difference is that there is money available in the US to deliver medical care that is proven to work. In the UK there simply isn't the money, and there's a great deal of ex post facto justification getting thrown around for lask of basic medical equipment.

And it was in Ireland that my dad was monitored 24/7, 30+ years ago.

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