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To think that a lot of people don't drink enough water?

233 replies

Chocolatefreak · 24/02/2023 09:34

Not the most riveting subject but I think it unknowingly causes a lot of health problems, particularly in the older generation. For example, I know several people of my parent's age who have had kidney issues; repeated infections, cystitis, stones, etc. Spending time with people of my parents' and grandparents' generation I've noticed the tiny amount of water they drink compared to the amount younger generations do. My grandmother used to avoid drinking water to avoid needing the loo and unsurprisingly often felt dizzy and sick in the morning. When I remind them, my parents reluctantly serve water with meals (in almost shot-sized glasses!) and consider it to be a chore, when they'd much rather get stuck straight into the wine. My mother hydrates exclusively on tea, coffee and alcohol. As a child I had incredibly dry hair and skin which I'm wondering now was probably due to constant dehydration.

Has anyone else noticed this and why are we drinking more water now? Is it because it's been successfully marketed (mineral water and reusable drinking bottles) or because people are more aware of the benefits? If so, why only in the last few years? I rarely go out without water.

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Zebratan · 25/02/2023 08:55

Just to blow the generational theory out the water. My elderly mum only drinks water, has done for years, and lots of it, she always has a bottle on the go.
I otoh purposely dehydrate myself as I can go hours without access to a toilet due to my work.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 25/02/2023 08:59

RampantIvy · 25/02/2023 08:41

I rarely get thirsty @UdoU either.

Neither do l. Neither does Dd, it must be genetics.

Abraxan · 25/02/2023 09:38

journeyofinsanity · 24/02/2023 12:05

Your urine tells you all you need to know about your hydration levels. If it's clear or close to clear then you are likely hydrated enough.

For a fair number of people, especially when older, this symptom can be very unreliable due to medication.
I take medication which means that I will never have clear urine, ever. My arthritis medication colours the liquid leaving my body yellow. Even my tears can be yellow! Urine depending on how close to taking the medication will be various shades of yellow/orange.

Other medication has the same affect, so it isn't a reliable check for a lot of people.

beguilingeyes · 25/02/2023 10:30

To digress, bottled water is one of the greatest evils/cons ever foisted on us. All those plastic bottles! And we ship it in from all over.. Remember Fiji Water?
And there was an enormous fuss when Coke were flogging Dasani and it turned out to be tap water.
There's quite a lot of 'aren't old people awful/stupid ' on this thread.

RampantIvy · 25/02/2023 12:46

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 25/02/2023 08:59

Neither do l. Neither does Dd, it must be genetics.

Or more likely I am well hydrated from drinking tea Grin

suzyscat · 25/02/2023 17:14

SecretVictoria · 24/02/2023 10:27

I don’t think people need water constantly, like on a short train journey. Loads of people can’t seem to go anywhere without a bottle of water. If I was travelling from my home to a city around 20 miles away I wouldn’t bother, I’m capable of sitting on a train/in a car for less than an hour without a drink.

We certainly didn’t have water bottles/drinks in classrooms when I was at school like seems to be the norm now.

As pp said, tea, coffee, juice all count towards your daily liquid intake. I don’t drink ‘enough’ but I very rarely feel thirsty. Can easily go breakfast-lunch on one cup of tea 🤷‍♀️

Water fountains in school playgrounds don't seem to be a thing any more though.

I agree adults don't need to take water absolutely everywhere with them, I rarely do. I do think it's good for children throughout the school day though.

FeltCarrot · 26/02/2023 09:52

The water fountains at my school were out of use during covid and then taken out altogether. Seeing lines of children slurping out of a water fountain it’s no wonder bugs were so rife in schools!🦠

Chocolatefreak · 27/02/2023 06:40

To answer those people who consider taking a water bottle everywhere to be unnecessary, I'll give you an outline of my average day to illustrate why I do this. When it's not raining or freezing I cycle to work, far enough and steep enough to sweat, so I need to hydrate after this. I can be in and out of meetings all day and while at my own office I can bring a glass of water from the dispenser, if I travel to a meeting elsewhere drinks are sometimes not provided; eg at a workshop tea or coffee may only given at the end of a two hour meeting in a hot stuffy room.

Similarly, if I drive somewhere in summer (or winter) there can be an accident or hold up; I make sure there's always water in the car for this reason. It's annoying to always have to carry a bag big enough to accommodate a bottle but better to be prepared. And when in London I got to know the free water dispensers, they should have more. The design of water fountains could be better adapted. I think mineral water in plastic bottles is a rip off and should be completely banned!

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 27/02/2023 10:27

@Chocolatefreak

I’d manage all that without a water bottle.

thegreencomet · 01/03/2023 03:38

NoNotHimTheOtherOne · 25/02/2023 08:12

He said he's managed for over 60 years drinking like he does, so he asked why he would change how.

He's absolutely right. More to the point, we have evolved over millions of years to be able to balance our water intake and output. If your body needs water, (a) your pituitary gland tells your kidneys to excrete less of it and (b) your hypothalamus makes you feel thirsty so you drink.

courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-ap2/chapter/water-balance/

Thirst is not an early warning sign of dehydration, contrary to what many on this thread believe:

medicalxpress.com/news/2018-04-thirst-indicator-hydration.html

Tourmalines · 01/03/2023 04:05

bonzaitree · 24/02/2023 10:33

I stayed with my mum for an extended period. I can confirm that she never ever drinks a glass of water.

tea and coffee? Yes all day. Diet Coke. Yes.

but no actual hydrating liquid! No fruit juice because apparently not allowed it on slimming world. No squash. No flavoured water.

literally tea, coffee and a can of coke.

i don’t know how she has survived so long!

Proof is right there . She did survive because she had her tea , coffee , and coke which all have water and is enough to hydrate.

sashh · 01/03/2023 05:08

beguilingeyes · 24/02/2023 10:08

It's marketing, IMO. It started somewhere in the mid-nineties when everyone started flogging bottled water. Perrier used to be about the only bottled water you could get and people would only consider bottled water on holiday where the water wasn't safe to drink.
Suddenly everyone is selling/drinking bottled water.
Similarly dress down day was invented by Levis to sell dockers trousers.

As a child I loved that I could get water in France in bars / restaurants. That would be the early 1980s.

I've always drunk water and I love that I can get a refill just about anywhere now.

I don't think I have ever ween my dad drink water come to think of it, tea, beer, wine, orange juice with breakfast.

Although he does ask for water at the side of his bed when he stays.

@Tourmalines Also some foods contain fluid, cucumber, various fruits.

boboshmobo · 01/03/2023 06:02

I have been forcing myself to drink 2 litres a day and someone commented on my skin the other day at work ..

I think it has made it more glowy.

bonzaitree · 01/03/2023 09:06

Tourmalines · 01/03/2023 04:05

Proof is right there . She did survive because she had her tea , coffee , and coke which all have water and is enough to hydrate.

Are you always so literal?

Obviously I know she has survived on tea coffee and coke. I’m just shocked and surprised by it!!

Woahtherehoney · 01/03/2023 09:10

I do think it’s a marketing thing but also more is known know how the affects water has on the body.

I drink a lot of water, 4-5 litres a day some days. Ever since I was a baby I’ve always drunk a lot - my mum used to take out 4-5 bottles of water and juice for me if we went out anywhere. I’ve got perfectly normal kidneys and no other health conditions, I just do drink a lot.

but I know plenty of other people don’t and a lot of it is led by their body. My DP rarely gets thirsty so doesn’t think to drink a lot of water.

I do think it’s just down to personal preference as well.

Deadringer · 01/03/2023 09:14

My mum is 96 and never drank water, she hates the stuff. I am never thirsty and don't drink nearly as much as I should and have no issues.

SecretVictoria · 01/03/2023 09:18

bonzaitree · 01/03/2023 09:06

Are you always so literal?

Obviously I know she has survived on tea coffee and coke. I’m just shocked and surprised by it!!

Why? All those things are liquid. Scientists and doctors have repeatedly said we need 2L of liquid and this doesn’t have to be water but any fluid!

RampantIvy · 01/03/2023 09:33

Obviously I know she has survived on tea coffee and coke. I’m just shocked and surprised by it!!

TBH I'm struggling to see why you are shocked and surprised.

PurpleParrotfish · 01/03/2023 09:34

I can get dehydrated without feeling thirsty, though I’ve only noticed recently, in my mid 40s. The main effect is that if I get a bit dehydrated in the afternoon then drink in the evening (like literally half a pint or a pint of beer) I will feel a bit bleugh and hungover all the next day. I don’t feel thirsty at the time but in retrospect I realise I’ve been running around and not had any water.

It’s really annoying, but has had a side effect of me drinking less alcohol in general which has to be good for my health!

nappysan · 12/01/2024 21:11

How do you work when you are so hydrated? I am a teacher and can’t leave my children unattended to heed the call of nature.
In the evenings I am regularly v thirsty and that is what wine is for! My glass of water beside the bed is always empty by morning.
yes, I’ve had kidney stones, a stone is salivary gland and in tear duct.
during the day I just can’t walk out so I limit my liquid( and food) intake and suffer the consequences.
I am sure I’m not the only one who cannot go to the loo easily during the day?

Tourmalines · 12/01/2024 21:43

SecretVictoria · 01/03/2023 09:18

Why? All those things are liquid. Scientists and doctors have repeatedly said we need 2L of liquid and this doesn’t have to be water but any fluid!

Yes , true !

Watermonkey13 · 13/01/2024 16:00

Water is good. I agree that most people don't drink enough and think this leads to avoidable health problems. Think it leads to overeating and obesity too as its easy to interpret thirst as hunger and snack when not necessary. I don't leave the house without water. Also it keeps the wrinkles at bay I believe 🤪

DistantSkye · 13/01/2024 19:23

nappysan · 12/01/2024 21:11

How do you work when you are so hydrated? I am a teacher and can’t leave my children unattended to heed the call of nature.
In the evenings I am regularly v thirsty and that is what wine is for! My glass of water beside the bed is always empty by morning.
yes, I’ve had kidney stones, a stone is salivary gland and in tear duct.
during the day I just can’t walk out so I limit my liquid( and food) intake and suffer the consequences.
I am sure I’m not the only one who cannot go to the loo easily during the day?

I drink normally and I'm a teacher! I even have a coffee before work and another one at break time.

Honestly the teacher martyrdom here is unreal 🤣. It's a couple of hours between the start of the school day and break, then same again for lunch. It's perfectly possible to have a tea or coffee and some water and go to the toilet at the start of the day/break/lunch.

To answer the original question - I think a lot of people drink fluids that are less healthy than plain water (juice/squash/fizzy drinks) but I don't think that means they're dehydrated.

Popadomorbread · 13/01/2024 19:31

I love water. It’s the only thing I really drink, on average 3-4 litres a day. Has to be nice and cold. My favourite is TGI Fridays still water in the red striped bottle, it’s almost soft, delicious. Otherwise just nice cold tap water for me. I get headaches if I don’t drink enough now though probably as my body is so used to it.
I agree the older generation don’t drink enough water. I don’t ever remember my grandparents drinking water though obviously they get fluids from other drinks/food etc…

RosetteNebula · 13/01/2024 21:18

nappysan · 12/01/2024 21:11

How do you work when you are so hydrated? I am a teacher and can’t leave my children unattended to heed the call of nature.
In the evenings I am regularly v thirsty and that is what wine is for! My glass of water beside the bed is always empty by morning.
yes, I’ve had kidney stones, a stone is salivary gland and in tear duct.
during the day I just can’t walk out so I limit my liquid( and food) intake and suffer the consequences.
I am sure I’m not the only one who cannot go to the loo easily during the day?

If I have a day when I can't use the bathroom. I drink as much as I can in the morning and evening. You could drink 500ml in the morning, again one hour before lunch and before leaving work and when you get home. And you could be drinking plenty water at the weekends too.

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