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Dangerous person in school?

405 replies

WhinnieThePoohHead · 15/01/2023 15:53

I’ll preface this by saying I know it’s not a AIBU, I just want to use the voting option :)

Met Friends for dinner today. One friend, a teacher, mentioned that her school does ‘lockdown drills’ as well as fire drills. I asked what they’re for and she said in case someone dangerous gets into the primary school. They lock the classroom door, shut the blinds, turn the lights and screens off and hide under their desks silently. My friend told me that all schools do these drills the same way they do fire drills. this is in the U.K.

YABU- yes all schools do this, you’re out of touch
YANBU- schools in the U.K. don’t do lock down drills

OP posts:
Maireas · 15/01/2023 17:13

x2boys · 15/01/2023 17:10

But surely security at the school would be very tight anyway ?
my youngest son goes to a special school,I d in going to.a meeting there i have to press the buzzer on outside gate and tell them why I'm there and then sigh in at reception where I put my details in on the computer screen ,then they take a photo of me and make me a temporary security badge and then have to sit.in reception until who eve r I'm meeting collects me.

Security is like that in every school.
We still have to do lockdown drill.

FictionalCharacter · 15/01/2023 17:13

It's awful that some schools are lying to kids by calling it a loose dog lockdown. Teaching kids to shut blinds and hide under desks because of a dog is surely teaching them to be excessively afraid of dogs.

CoffeeWithCheese · 15/01/2023 17:13

Kids have done it - in the context of the Head challenging them to stay as hidden as possible from the Head going around the school hide and seek style - which I was OK with.

Zosime · 15/01/2023 17:15

I remember reading once, I think in a similar thread here, of a school that did it because there had been a serious road accident outside the school. They wanted the children kept indoors and away from the windows while emergency services were cutting people out of the wreckage, because they didn't want the children seeing that.

Northernsoul72 · 15/01/2023 17:15

Yes my daughter's school did it. She left last year. This was implemented once where the school was notified by the Police they were trying to apprehend someone and there was a concern he would run into the school

Mysterian · 15/01/2023 17:15

My nursery does it. It's in a school a couple of miles from a medium security mental health place. Last time we used it for real it was due to a photographer sneaking in for reasons I don't know.

AnyOldThings · 15/01/2023 17:15

AutisticLegoLover · 15/01/2023 15:55

Secondary does this. I don't think primary does. I think it's standard in secondaries but I'm not sure.

Just left a secondary where I worked for a few years and my child went to before that. They have never done a lock down drill and it was never even discussed as an option.

noblegiraffe · 15/01/2023 17:16

FictionalCharacter · 15/01/2023 17:13

It's awful that some schools are lying to kids by calling it a loose dog lockdown. Teaching kids to shut blinds and hide under desks because of a dog is surely teaching them to be excessively afraid of dogs.

Given recent events, wouldn’t you rather kids were wary around loose dogs than rushing up to pet them?

MolkosTeenageAngst · 15/01/2023 17:16

I’m in a special school. We do these and have done for the last 5 years or so, although we practise them after school and without the children.

LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 15/01/2023 17:16

I taught in a Scottish secondary school until four years ago and we never did this. However gates are locked and security is tight. No-one can get into the school unless the office staff open the doors and the staff are behind glass.

WhenIAmOldIShallWearPurple · 15/01/2023 17:17

My DC school does this but they tell them it's to practice in case a dangerous dog gets in.

RoyalStallion · 15/01/2023 17:17

I supply teach on and off and I haven’t encountered it.

Grannyyaga · 15/01/2023 17:18

Yes, my dds primary school do lockdown drills too. They mention dangerous dogs as well as dangerous people.

HideTheCroissants · 15/01/2023 17:19

We do it in my primary school. Children are told it’s a dangerous dog if they ask but most just do as they’re told. ALL schools are supposed to do it and record the drills the same as we record fire drills. Lock down drills don’t have to as frequent as fire drills though.

ChocolatemilkBertie · 15/01/2023 17:19

Yes we do this in my primary, we discuss it in early years as a danger from outside whereas a fire drill is a danger inside. It’s hard to discuss with them, some children view it as what we do if we come under alien attack and think it’s great fun. Others do get anxious. But they’re also taught where to go if not in the classroom, eg of in the toilet stay put with door locked.

At the end of the day it’s a sad reality but we have to teach them to hide in case all means to keep someone dangerous out fail. You just hope to God that no American style school shooter comes in.

BCBird · 15/01/2023 17:20

All schools in the UK do not do it. I am a secondary school teacher of 27 years on a sch in England.

neighboursmustliveon · 15/01/2023 17:21

I work in a MAT and yes, this is standard.DfE guidance I think. It's not been done often and the children don't know what they are practicing for.

TrollMunter · 15/01/2023 17:21

Didn’t realise until I asked prompted by this thread and everyone in the household does them apparently. Work and school and once was a real one! School and kids never said! Confused

MiltonRoad · 15/01/2023 17:23

Mine have done in senior and primary. We also did nuclear bomb drills in primary in the late 70s 😱 ☢️

Curlyshabtree · 15/01/2023 17:27

UK primary here, yes we do it. Sad we have to but we do.

ReformedWaywardTeen · 15/01/2023 17:27

My teens school has. At least once a year.
I do wonder if it's because a number of the pupils are looked after children in foster care so it's done in case one of their parents finds out their location and tries to get their child back?

We are in a small town, SE, nowhere near London so it's the only reason I can think of

Percypiglover · 15/01/2023 17:28

Yes school I worked in did them, we had to make sure we kept children away from windows too

Whatmarbles · 15/01/2023 17:30

We have been doing them for the last 6 years.
My dd's primary did them, they have both finished high school now.

MissVantaBlack · 15/01/2023 17:31

My kids' primary school does them, although we're near a safari park so the lockdown drills are billed as "escaped lion in the playground" practice, which they all seem to find very exciting. Not sure about secondary - will have to ask my older DC.

Neonbug · 15/01/2023 17:32

Most primary schools I’ve worked at have done this

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