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To think size 2!!! is extreme???

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kayzr · 04/02/2008 09:01

Just watching the tv and an advert for a catalogue came on. The clothes are from a size 2!!!! Surely selling clothes that small its encouraging people to not eat and get even slimmer. I was a size 10 before I had ds and was told by many people I looked to thin. I cant even imagine what a size 2 woman would look like.

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Hulababy · 04/02/2008 10:13

Vacua - good to hear she is making progress. It is still very early days for my friend's daughter - hospitalisation is the next step I believe as she is still losing weight despite bein monioered every other day.

Fortunately within my own family the eating disorder did not get that far; it was bad enough as it was.

duchesse · 04/02/2008 10:13

Vacua, I so hope your daughter makes a quick recovery. What a terrifying time this must be for you all.

kayzr · 04/02/2008 10:14

I have the worlds largest apology to make. I think it meant shoe size. I've just been looking for size 2 clothes on the net and cant find any except age 2 years. So maybe it meant shoe sizes.
Im really sorry Im so stupid and didnt pay any attention to the tv

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duchesse · 04/02/2008 10:15

Disenchanted- I believe that a size 6-8 is roughly age 10 size widthways, no? They do seem to sell a lot more longer length clothing in most high street stores these days.

duchesse · 04/02/2008 10:17

kayzr- you can get size 2 and 0 clothing in the US! It's perfectly plausible. And it started an interesting debate.

kayzr · 04/02/2008 10:19

I've looked on the levi's wesite and you can get them on there.

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Vacua · 04/02/2008 10:28

thanks duchesse

hula - I know there are risks with ED units (the competitiveness for one thing) but the support and supervision on a specialised adolescent ward is so intense and carefully tailored, nobody could deliver that at home. Is there an adolescent unit in your area? We were lucky to have some close(ish) to home, Cambridge and London, but I know some areas have little if any facilities for adults never mind teens. Ours has 10 beds for a population spanning SEVEN counties, it's terrible.

Hulababy · 04/02/2008 11:14

Vacua - not sure; I don't know much about that side of it. Back to work tomorrow so will see friend much more often so will hear more then. Friend lives in a different area to me.

glaskham · 04/02/2008 11:21

my sister is a uk size 4/6....she's always been that way!!

moljam · 04/02/2008 11:29

its all very well saying shops are good for refusing to stock size 4(uk) clothes but what about those of us who are naturally small and for first time ever can actually buy clothes(not much though as shops are crap-1 size 4 top and they think they cater for smaller people)

SlackSally · 04/02/2008 11:50

Dress sizes and BMI are both so fluid and unreliable, though. And what everyone has been saying about height/build being a factor is so true.

I'm 5'1, and at the moment I weigh about 9 stone, which is very slightly more than I'd like, and near the top end of a healthy bmi for my height. However, I really do not look even chubby. I am just quite big built (I know, I know). But I really am. I have broad hips and shoulders, which have nothing to do with how fat I am. When I weighed 8 stone (middle of healthy bmi) I looked ill and really gaunt. People were really worried about me. There is no way I'd ever get into a size eight, even if I was literally starving. My bones simply would not allow it.

On the other hand, I went to school with a girl of the same height (her parents were Chinese) and she had a tiny build. Didn't fill out a size 6, wore kids clothes, but equally, she was not too thin, she ate plenty. But for her, a size ten would probably have meant she was carrying too much fat. These things are no way as simple as ascribing an even number and being done with it.

Lulumama · 04/02/2008 11:57

there just does not seem to be any portrayal of balance

women in the public eye are either slender or obese... ranges from victoria beckham to dawn french

normal sized women, say, natalie cassidy ( ex eastenders ) are feted for losing 2 -3 stone and getting to be a size 8 . intimating that a size 12 - 14 is somehow enormous.

not everyone can be an 8. not everyone should be an 18. it is finding your natural set point weight and sticking to it. i have and do struggle with my weight, but i don;t ever say anything in front of the DCs. The emphasis should be on healthy eating , not dieting and on excercise and good lifestyle choices

however, the epidemic of obese children seems to have passed us by, in DSs class of 29, there is one noticeably overweight child. that is it

moljam · 04/02/2008 12:01

i love holly willbury(bad spelling)figure.isnt she 'normal'?

Lulumama · 04/02/2008 12:06

dunno, would say she is very petite but she looks healthy and glowing... that is a good thing, not like her head is too big for her body

Bramshott · 04/02/2008 12:22

I agree re the way sizes have changed over the past 10 years - I am small, and 10 years ago would wear a size 10, but now a lot of size 8s are really big on me, and I haven't changed size! And there aren't a lot of shops who go smaller than a size 8 so it's a problem. I also don't think the US/UK size comparisons are exact - I quite often wear a size 1 from Gap, and don't agree that that's whatever size they say it is in the media (UK size 5?). Not sure what the answer is, but I'm sure it's not making clothes bigger and then refusing to stock the smaller ones!

duchesse · 04/02/2008 12:32

I know! I can now fit a size 10 again, from some shops (especially items patterned with flying pigs...) I am definitely a 12 verging on 13 (if there were such a thing) on the bottom.

Upwind · 04/02/2008 12:39

YABU Some people are naturally slight, why can't they have clothes? For some reason it seems okay to slag off the underweight but not the overweight. As a teenager I was tormented by my peers about my weight, nicknamed scarecrow. One teacher even described me to the class as "built like a greyhound".

The result - I ate nothing but junk for years and did no exersise in a desperate effort to gain weight, and now have bad teeth and a pudgy belly on my small frame.

bitofadramaqueen · 04/02/2008 12:57

I dont think I could get one leg into a size 0 outfit, but I agree that very slight people have as much right to get nice clothes as the next person.

I used to work for an American retailer and the size 0 (UK 4) clothes were bought by people who were naturally slight but also by older teenagers who were too old for kids clothes but hadn't yet 'filled out' into bigger sized women's clothes.

Duchesse - you raise a good point about people with a different genetic origin - some women from different ethnic origins are much slighter than your atypical english rose.

that said - the way that magazines criticise the 'too skinny' celebrities on one page while commenting on the 'chubby size 10s' on the next makes my blood boil!

kayzr · 04/02/2008 14:00

Shops drive me mad. I'm a 16 in one, a 14 in another and and 18 in another. Natalie Cassidy's head looks really big on her body now I think

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BellaDonna79 · 04/02/2008 18:53

A UK 2 is the same as a US 00, I think, tbh that you are more likely to find people who are naturally that size than those who are naturally a size 18. For the vast majority of people a size 18 means they are overweight. For a skinny little 15 year old, slight asian woman, or even someone like me who is naturally slim, not that tall (5ft6) and eats healthily and excercises.
No-one has a problem with shops having dedicated sections for 'curvily' proportioned women eg sizes 16-30 etc but you can bet if shops started stocking uk sizes 2 to 8 people would go crazy.

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