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9 degrees inside - is it now a false economy to not put heating on?

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blanketseverywhere · 22/11/2022 13:54

I'm trying to get by without putting heating on. According to the smart meter, it's currently 9 degrees in the sitting room (north-facing). The house feels very cold, but if I sit in the kitchen (south-facing) in many layers, with scarf and fingerless gloves on etc, it's not unbearable for WFH. In the evening I can use blankets / hot water bottles etc while watching tv and have two duvets on the bed at night.

However, at what point will temperatures of this level start to damage the house - or me? I feel achey all the time which I think is from being 'tense' in the cold, if that makes sense. I also have a constantly red and running nose / scratchy throat although I don't really feel ill.

I'm not using the tumble dryer so drying washing inside most of the time, although do try and keep windows open for air circulation... but then that makes it colder! I don't think we have any damp but I'm worried about the house constantly being cold - is this an issue in itself?

Is it going to get to a point where it's a false economy not to put the heating on because it will possibly be doing damage to the house, or should I carry on trying to hold out if possible and just carry on layering up? I realise this probably sounds a bit daft but I really don't want to store up even bigger problems!

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WhiteFire · 23/11/2022 18:51

Livelovebehappy · 23/11/2022 18:44

I've finally broken today. Full of cold, wfh. Just felt absolutely miserable as hell. Heating went on an hour ago and I already feel better. I’ve tried to get through it, but unfortunately failed🙁

You haven't failed. You are ill, you are cold and you are human.

Having heating on is not a sign of weakness. Even in the survival programmes on TV the first thing they do is find a heat source.

Hope you feel better soon.

Smoow · 23/11/2022 18:53

Put the heating on. A low temperature will take the chill o. If you're working from home I would recommend you stay warm. Being cold will affect your cognitive ability

nokidshere · 23/11/2022 19:04

Good thinking! Hopefully the summer months will mean raking it back though 🙏🏼

To be honest I'm not bothered either way. I'm actually not bothered if my account runs in debit rather than credit. Eon are happy as long as they get a regular payment and if I catch up it's a bonus 🤷🏼‍♀️

BosaNova · 23/11/2022 19:05

Having heating on is not a sign of weakness.

Gosh this needs repeating

user1472151176 · 23/11/2022 19:10

We atre also trying to avoid heating but I do boost it every other day for an hour just to stop damp taking hold. De humidifiers are relatively cheap to run but expensive to buy. I would say 9 degrees is too cold and wouldn't dry your clothes. I try to keep the house at 15 to 17.
Electric blankets are also fairly cheap to buy and run.
Also look for a warm hub to work if you can. Places like libraries and community centres.

birder · 23/11/2022 19:12

Beware of paraffin heaters, it's a wet heat, caused lots of mould in my bedroom when I used one.

Movinghouseatlast · 23/11/2022 19:14

A heated airer from Lakeland and a dehumidifier a.)dries clothes b.) heats the room they are in. So in my book that is 2 for the price of one!

shewhomustbeEbayed · 23/11/2022 19:18

Radio 4 Inside Health - How a cold home can affect your health.

Don’t risk your own health, take care.

Pigriver · 23/11/2022 19:22

I don't understand, you used to pay £14 a day to go into the office so you are saving that much per day by WFH. Why would you not use a small portion of that to work comfortably from home?
Our house, unheated, is currently about 14 degrees. The heating comes on for 5 hours a day and heats it to 16 degrees. Between the times it's on it slips back down to 14. On the weekend it needs more as we are spending more time in the living room which is large and often feels chilly. Its currently costing £7 per day for gas which is a lot just to keep it at minimal levels when the kids are home from school.

Lozois99 · 23/11/2022 19:36

I broke when it went under 13 degrees. Realistically I think you’re better off heating one room and turning all your other radiators off rather than not switching it on at all. If you choose a warmer room and keep the door shut it will soon be snug. Beware the rest of the house becoming damp though.

GirlOfTudor · 23/11/2022 19:56

This post is exactly why I

N1no · 23/11/2022 19:56

blanketseverywhere · 22/11/2022 14:17

Maybe I'm being a bit daft, then. I grew up in a cold house - my dad was one of the 'we grew up with ice on the windows, never did us any harm' types (lovely, lovely man but, y'know...) I hate being cold but I'm worrying about bills too. I get a bit panicky about the thought of not being able to afford this stuff.

So would an hour a day be ok to stave off damp etc?

Heating is the lesser efficient way to spend your money when trying to avoid dump. You need a good dehumidifier (£150 ish) that is powerful enough for the size of your rooms and a hygrometer or a few to be able to check humidity level. Your priority should be to keep humidity levels down over heating. Heating is also more efficient if the air is dry and it will feel much more comfortable too.
We haven’t put the heating on either and DP works from home. It’s absolutely fine. There is also no running hot water and a shower is a treat every few 3-4 weeks. A wash cloth is a lot cheaper.

GirlOfTudor · 23/11/2022 19:57

Posted too quickly!

This post is exactly why I hate MSE yelling everyone to 'heat the person, not the house'. I'd rather spend extra on utility bills than risk things like mould or bad health for me and my family.

9 degrees is incredibly cold!! Our house never dips below 16 degrees at the very coldest. Can you do more to heat your house? And put the heating on! Even if only for a couple hrs per day!

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/11/2022 20:02

We’ve turned off our kitchen and hall radiator. We have the heating on on the mornings and evenings.

l think not using 2 radiators must have some impact. And we are definitely using it less.

Brackensmomma · 23/11/2022 20:14

You need to do at least 2 to 4 hours a day. To keep the house and you warm.
I understand your anxiety I have gone to pre payment meters and find them alot less stressful as I know exactly what is on there and I don't have the worry about getting bills in.
But you should have had 2 lots of £66
By now from your energy supplier either in the form of a E voucher or money paid straight In bank or off your monthly bill??
If you haven't already had them contact your supplier..
But you shouldn't be letting yourself or your home get so cold. Esp if you have children. Damp cold washing will on help mould spread around and that can be very dangerous.
Please please put the heat on.
2 hours twice aday. Won't hurt. And you will feel the benefit from it.

CuppaAndABiccie · 23/11/2022 20:42

Yellowpotato · 22/11/2022 13:58

Unless you have significant financial problems please put the heating on!

I think that’s the problem with a lot of people (including me) - it’s the thought that putting the heating on in itself could be the thing that causes significant financial problems…when the next winter bill comes in. I can completely relate to the OP’ worries….as I sit here under blankets, house so cold I can see my breath in front of my face 🙁

expat101 · 23/11/2022 20:43

I have read the OP’s replies but not too many pages in of others… however if this helps someone, and it hasn’t been mentioned yet, there was a post on fb that came up this week, I’m sure it was a USA post, but they had read about putting up a tent inside the house and covering it with blankets and they had one in the garage packed away so tried it.

They turned the inside of the tent into a big bed for the family.. anyhow the gist of the post was to let others know how warm it remained inside the tent and how the family were sleeping so much better.

I hope this keeps someone warm tonight who is struggling…

hellycat · 23/11/2022 20:57

amatsip · 23/11/2022 18:21

Heated throws are amazing, mine on medium is 2p an hour and a window vac to keep condensation off windows means heat is on an hour in morning and an hour in evening.
I also use a cheap oodie to keep warm. Hot water bottle in bed and an extra blanket or 2 on my winter duvet. My duvet is a superking on a kingsize bed so there’s extra overhang to tuck under myself.
front door curtain is a game changer.

Yes I agree about the front door curtain. I got mine in B&M (reduced) plus the rail for less than £20, and it is noticeably less cold in the house when I come downstairs first thing in the morning. The heat lost thru glass door panels is colossal.

I also got a big roll of that sticky door seal in Home Bargains for three quid and sealed round the interior doors so hopefully that might help too.

ClaudineClare · 23/11/2022 21:04

We haven’t put the heating on either and DP works from home. It’s absolutely fine. There is also no running hot water and a shower is a treat every few 3-4 weeks. A wash cloth is a lot cheaper

Why have you not got running hot water? Are you serious about a shower being a three weekly treat?

Not having the heating on when it is cold and damp is not fine. It will harm your home and health.

AnnieSnap · 23/11/2022 21:54

blanketseverywhere · 22/11/2022 16:14

If it costs you 4£ a day x30 days, £120/month. Is that too much?

That would be just for heating. Electricity would be on top (which in our house would mean showers, all cooking etc), so probably double that. Plus increased standing charges.

So more like £250-280 per month. Quite a lot for many of us!

I’m sorry you have all this worry. I am heating my house, but only up to 19.5c maximum. Much if the day, it’s 18/18.5c. I know I can pay my bills at that though (I feel fortunate).

keeping a house very cold is likely to result in black mould (dangerous to health) forming on your walls over time. It will also cause/worsen your aches and pains. I hope you can manage to heat your home somewhat. No one should have to sit working in a hat and scarf. This country has gone to hell under the Tories 🤬

Just to give you some reassurance, the standing charge is a fixed price. It won’t increase with your bill. Can you contact your supplier and arrange to pay by DD? If would be cheaper for you if you could.

3luckystars · 23/11/2022 21:55

I have no idea what the temperature is in any of the rooms in this house.

wellstopdoingitthen · 23/11/2022 22:00

Staying warm: What does an unheated room do to your body? www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-63602501

InterestQ · 23/11/2022 22:13

my house has varied between 11 and 14 today and I haven’t been cold due to my heated throw. Hot bath, straight into thermal vest and chunky poloneck with socks and sheepskin slippers and in between cups of tea and the blanket, I wasn’t cold.

warm the body, not the room is Martin Lewis’s philosophy.

Blondeshavemorefun · 23/11/2022 22:30

N1no · 23/11/2022 19:56

Heating is the lesser efficient way to spend your money when trying to avoid dump. You need a good dehumidifier (£150 ish) that is powerful enough for the size of your rooms and a hygrometer or a few to be able to check humidity level. Your priority should be to keep humidity levels down over heating. Heating is also more efficient if the air is dry and it will feel much more comfortable too.
We haven’t put the heating on either and DP works from home. It’s absolutely fine. There is also no running hot water and a shower is a treat every few 3-4 weeks. A wash cloth is a lot cheaper.

You showe once a month or so 🙀

I know you said you have a cloth wash but once a month

Familydilemmas · 23/11/2022 22:31

Blondeshavemorefun · 23/11/2022 22:30

You showe once a month or so 🙀

I know you said you have a cloth wash but once a month

I’m really hoping this was a joke.