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Is anyone else having mould problems due to not using their heating?

117 replies

Charlize43 · 21/11/2022 12:51

I've had mould problems before on external walls but it seems more prevalent since I tried to avoid putting the heating on this year due to the cost. Trying to dry clothes indoors takes much longer for them to dry and I'm noticing a great deal of moisture building up on the windows.

AIBU - Not to put the heating on when drying clothes. In the long run, this going to cause a much bigger problem with mould and damp.

YANBU - Just keep washing the mould off with bleach or distilled vinegar and put a jumper on if you are cold. Wash your clothes less often.

Is anyone else experiencing this?

OP posts:
Baconand · 22/11/2022 16:02

We’re carrying on with heating - I don’t want a damp house. We are on oil though which is easier in that it’s all paid for in advance.

I am trying to wash less though. So on WFH days I’m wearing tops more than once etc. The tumble drier goes on for towels and bedding until it’s less wet weather too. But I’m washing less often.

I appreciate though that although we are feeling the pinch and making choices we aren’t as up against it as some and can afford to have the heating on, albeit less than before.

GasPanic · 22/11/2022 16:02

cardibach · 22/11/2022 15:51

@Notcontent probably - but it’s not exactly a battle, is it? I haven’t got to run round wiping things or buying window vacuums or having windows open so much it’s freezing. I’m a bit confused about the idea it’s inevitable in the UK.

There are so many factors though that will affect how much humidity you are likely to generate in a house.

If you are only 1 person in a relatively large house then it's going to be much less of an issue if you are 4 people in a smaller one. How much the house construction allows air circulation. How much washing is dried inside. How many showers there are per day. Whether there is open pan cooking putting water vapour into the atmosphere, whether there is extraction. Whether there is dehumidification. Whether you live up north where the temperatures can be colder. Whether you have double glazing. The list goes on.

I don't have much of a humidity problem, but that is because I have a relatively large amount of space per person, modern house construction and am careful to make sure I don't do stuff that adds to the humidity. But I my guess is that if I added another 1-2 people and all that that brings (more washing to dry, more water vapour being breathed out, more showers) then it could start to be an issue.

RedWingBoots · 22/11/2022 16:03

mogsrus · 22/11/2022 08:15

Dehumidifiers are big machines to find room for & costs to run mount up. Like I’ve said before,replacing the extract fan with a single unit heat recovery fan will ventilate your room 24hrs a day & give you some of your heat back it’s that simple, drier room & no bulky Mach that needs emptying, your condensate is where it should be, outside. Probably cost a lot less as well

Only industrial ones.

You can get small ones. I don't know how effective they are though.

Passerillage · 22/11/2022 16:04

SirMingeALot · 21/11/2022 13:27

I also find using the spin cycle on the washing machine, ideally twice, means the clothes need less drying when they come out.

Yes - my mixed cycle only has 1000 rpm as the default, which is useless, and you can't make it higher on that cycle. I run it again at 1600 and they come out way drier.

mogsrus · 22/11/2022 16:08

Appreciate you can get smaller ones but having a machine just for the sake of it is not my point. Condensate should be outside that’s why I’ve always said there is a much easier way to deal with it.

csiga · 22/11/2022 16:23

Dehumidifiers don't need to be massive or power hungry to have an impact on normal levels of moisture. Small ones cost very little to run.

We got this one about 6 months ago as our bathroom smelled damp.

https://amzn.eu/d/gV173ox

Running if for a few days with door and window closed resolved the issue. I now use it in the airing cupboard and dry most of the laundry there. (After a double spin) Works in 24h to bone dry.

I leave it on most of the time. It's only 40W so if you are on the current price cap of 34p then it's less than 32p per 24 hours constant use. I empty it every couple of days.

Noticed mould in a cold corner of a cupboard on an external wall last week as we've not been using the heating much. I cleaned it off with the bleach remover stuff and put this in the cupboard for a couple of days. Wouldn't be without it and thinking of buying a second for this winter to protect the house.

cardibach · 22/11/2022 16:29

WaddleAway · 22/11/2022 15:59

I don’t think she was being smug, just refuting the suggestion that’s it’s a constant battle everyone in the U.K. has.

Exactly so. It’s not 8nevitaboe because of the country it might be issues with a particular house, or with ways of living in it. It’s not to do with the climate per se.
I do think people refusing to have the heating in at all this year is contributing though. Yes, it’s gone up, but there’s a rebate to help to a degree. If you had it on at all last year you can have it 9n for some if the time this year without it costing more. In fact MartinLewis calculated that if your energy bills were less than £125 a month last year you’ll actually pay less this year (for the same heat).

Spiderboy · 22/11/2022 16:43

We’re getting mould. I literally said to OH yesterday how we’d lived here for 7 years and never had this issue before but then remembered we’d normally have put the heating on 6 weeks ago. I didn’t think it would make such a difference so quickly. We have 2 people in the home with asthma so might give up on our no heating stance much quicker….we’ve just bought a dehumidifier hoping it will help.

Laiste · 22/11/2022 17:49

I've lived in 6 different houses. The oldest was 150 years old, youngest was 1960s. Guess which had the damp problem!

A: The '60s house. (The 5th house i've lived in).

It was the only one i didn't own (rented for 4 years)
It was the only one which had no central heating, storage heaters instead.
It was the only one which had had a damp course breach (gravel spread all around the house higher than the damp course)(we told the LL. They ignored us. We fixed it for them)
It was the only one with shitty window frames which needed repairing.

I'll be honest - if i hadn't have lived in house no.5 i'd have been reading this thread with a bit of smugness. But now i know what it's like to live in a damp house - 4 hellish winters in house no.5 . And i know that nothing in my repertoire did stopped it Sad Hours googling about mould and causes of mould and how to get rid. We tried everything.

In all the other houses i've lived in there's been no battle. As pp said; Heating on couple of times a day in winter. Windows open a crack in the bathrooms/bedrooms year round unless it's in the minus's outside. Drying clothes near radiators if it's raining, outside if poss. Never a speck of mould or damp. And one of those houses (the oldest one) we were pretty squashed - 5 of us and loads of pets in a little cottage with no tumble drier.

In house no.5 it wasn't enough to have good habits. Despite them all, and despite noticing and fixing the damp course breach in the first summer, come October every year i was battling with bleach and mould sprays and peeling wallpaper. I was in tears over it regularly Sad I was preg with DD4 in that house and when she was born i became worried to death about her breathing in mould spores. I was like a mad thing everyday looking for signs of the back mould creeping back onto the walls under the windows ect. Wiping and worrying. Buying dehumidifiers and trays of salt and having regimes of windows open/not open. It was cold and damp and fucking depressing and i was SO glad to eventually leave.

Discoh · 22/11/2022 18:02

cardibach · 22/11/2022 15:18

I don’t recognise this battle. I’ve lived in the UK all my life and have never encountered a mould problem. I currently live in a mid 19th century terrace with no damp course and lime plaster. Obviously that means it needs to breathe, but battle? No.
I open the small bathroom window and close the door for an hour or so after showering which prevents damp building up in there. I open my bedroom windows for a bit every day as I like the air in there to be fresh (it’s door is always shut to keep my cats out). Open the back door for a little while in the morning if it’s not absolutely freezing or very damp outside. Heating is set to 18 (thermostat in living room) for 2 hours in the morning (comes on for about 30 mins at the moment) and from 5-10 in the evening. No battle, no damp.

Older houses are often draughtier and less well insulated with higher ceilings which naturally helps with ventilation I think. My parents house was built in the 1840s and they've never had a problem with mould, despite them not opening all the windows religiously and drying clothes inside without a dehumidifier.

Our 1960 house has concrete floors and lots of loft insulation, low ceilings etc none of which helps.

Gem123J · 22/11/2022 20:54

I’ve ordered a the Meaco 12litre low energy one, it’s arriving tomorrow and I’m excited to get it on!!

Thank you for starting this thread! If I hadn’t seen the suggestion of a dehumidifier I would have never bought one. After reading lots of reviews of the Meaco one I’m confident it’s going to help my damp issues!

I hope you’re able to purchase one soon and sort your issues out 🤞

peoplearepeople · 22/11/2022 23:15

@Gem123J
Can I ask where you've ordered it from? Everywhere I've looked seems to be sold out for now.

We have an ecoair dehumidifier and it's fantastic at taking water out the air. However I've found this year it's just far too expensive to run as much as we need to. I've needed to have it on constantly over the last couple of days and have been shocked at the price.

Gem123J · 22/11/2022 23:33

@peoplearepeople

It’s actually the MeacoDry ABC 12l I’ve ordered! The other Meaco wasn’t available for delivery until early Dec. Mixed up the names! The reviews for this one were also all good, 9.4 whereas the other Meaco was 9.1.

I ordered it off of appliancesdirect.co.uk

peoplearepeople · 22/11/2022 23:44

Thank you so much. Off to research that model now! Exciting times. 😂

Luredbyapomegranate · 22/11/2022 23:52

midgetastic · 21/11/2022 12:56

If it's a choice between eating and heating - eat

Any other choice - put the heating on, the cold and the mould and the bleach are all harmful to your health

This

Could you afford a de-humidifier or a heated airer with a cover? Both are supposed to be good

Gem123J · 22/11/2022 23:57

@peoplearepeople

I’m honestly stupidly excited for it to arrive 😂I also think I drove my husband nuts last night reading out every single review! Maybe that’s why I’ve been told to order it last night so I’d shut up!! How times have changed with what excites us!!

Pollyputhekettleon · 27/11/2022 20:28

dontgobaconmyheart · 21/11/2022 13:13

No, but we do have a large Meaco dehumidifier which costs very little to run and works brilliantly. I attribute the lack of mould entirely to this as I know parts of my house have very high moisture readings in the walls and we really need to redo the damp proof course (the joys of old houses).

They aren't cheap so I'm not sure how helpful it is to suggest (it took us months to save for ours a couple of years ago) but they've completely solved the issue for us here. We have no condensation at all on windows, no mould on any walls and placing washing next to it is a game changer, it dries it very quickly.

Those moisture readings might be false and intended to sell you damp proof course 'solutions' that you don't need and that will damage your house. The meters test conductivity, not moisture per se, and are not supposed to be used the way they are. Old building plasters and paint produce false positive results because of the materials they're made of. www.heritage-house.org/damp-and-condensation/the-fraud-of-rising-damp.html

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