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Handhold please - A&E after sudden numbness

262 replies

OliveRanch · 04/08/2022 22:09

I’m really sorry, shamelessly posting for traffic. My other thread is here www.mumsnet.com/talk/autoimmune_disease/4602352-should-i-give-up-pursuing-a-diagnosis?page=1

I’m waiting for an ambulance. I suddenly felt very peculiar this evening and both my legs went numb, although in hindsight I haven’t been quite right all day. I now can’t walk properly. Both legs as well as my arms are burning, my hands, arms and back of my neck are tingling. The soles of my feet feel numb. I’ve felt unwell for a while but never had anything like this before, it’s escalated so quickly. They are talking about a CT scan and MRI although I think the actual problem is b12 and/or folate anaemia.

I’m on my own and don’t have anyone to go with me. I’m terrified of A&E after a very traumatic incident there a few years ago. I’m less worried about the scans, it’s just having to be back in that waiting room. Especially without support. I know I need to be brave though.

I just need a little bit of a handhold / distraction. I’m so anxious Sad

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RandomMess · 06/08/2022 12:03

If you have low B12 you will feel utterly dreadful!

OliveRanch · 06/08/2022 12:06

Oh and my diet is good. I don’t eat processed foods apart from biscuits which are a bit of a weakness. Lots of fruit and veg every day. Small amounts of dairy each day, eggs a few times a week. Fish fairly regularly and occasional lamb. Also use B complex spray most days. So no reason my b12 or folate should be low unless there’s an absorption problem I think.

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Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:08

OliveRanch · 06/08/2022 12:02

@Dalint

BMs fine apart from some constipation and mucous around the time of my period. No diarrhoea.

The burning sensation was new, it was in my arms and legs. I constantly feel like I’m overheating from the inside though and find it really difficult to cool down. It often feels like I have a fever. Occasionally I have low-grade fevers that come on and then disappear randomly.

Memory OK but my working memory isn’t great, I often find myself in the kitchen or whatever and can’t remember what I went in there for. But not sure if that’s just a normal part of getting older. I have to deal with a lot of numbers and data when I’m studying and I’ve noticed my ability to hold it in my head for short periods has deteriorated somewhat. I’m constantly having to go back over things, checking and re-checking which takes up so much time.

When you see the neurologist, print what you've just written in this post.

How is your weight? Do you have a swollen neck in any way?

Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:09

OliveRanch · 06/08/2022 12:06

Oh and my diet is good. I don’t eat processed foods apart from biscuits which are a bit of a weakness. Lots of fruit and veg every day. Small amounts of dairy each day, eggs a few times a week. Fish fairly regularly and occasional lamb. Also use B complex spray most days. So no reason my b12 or folate should be low unless there’s an absorption problem I think.

There can be an absorption problem.

Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:11

Kidneys lol. Sorry. I'm throwing a lot of things at you. Your symptoms are very difficult to diagnose as only specialists will know what to check for and if you're referred to the incorrect specialist, they will only rule out conditions relating to the symptoms from their specialty.

Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:13

How has your O2 and BP been when taken? HR?

OliveRanch · 06/08/2022 12:14

Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:08

When you see the neurologist, print what you've just written in this post.

How is your weight? Do you have a swollen neck in any way?

My weight was one of the things that concerned me and that I went to the doctor about in the first place, especially together with the hot flushes/sweats and fatigue. I’ve always been slim but I found trousers became increasingly baggy. I was struggling with lack of appetite. I started to eat more fatty foods like avocado, cheese etc but found I wasn’t really gaining anything. I’ve managed to gain some weight over the past few months though and now have a BMI of 20.

I don’t have a swollen neck.

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Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:16

OliveRanch · 06/08/2022 12:14

My weight was one of the things that concerned me and that I went to the doctor about in the first place, especially together with the hot flushes/sweats and fatigue. I’ve always been slim but I found trousers became increasingly baggy. I was struggling with lack of appetite. I started to eat more fatty foods like avocado, cheese etc but found I wasn’t really gaining anything. I’ve managed to gain some weight over the past few months though and now have a BMI of 20.

I don’t have a swollen neck.

This is all good.
What might be useful to your Neurologist is if you copy and paste your responses on this thread and on the other thread as sometimes those answers will point the specialist to where to look or to what to look for.

OliveRanch · 06/08/2022 12:16

O2 was 95-97%, BP 102/82 (a bit higher than usual, normally 90/70 ish), HR 80ish but was anxious in the hospital!

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Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:17

How long has this been going on and are you getting new symptoms or worsening symptoms? When have the symptoms worsened?

Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:18

OliveRanch · 06/08/2022 12:16

O2 was 95-97%, BP 102/82 (a bit higher than usual, normally 90/70 ish), HR 80ish but was anxious in the hospital!

HR is perfect. O2 a bit low.

Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:21

Be prepared to give a full history to the Neurologist. They'll have standard questions, but sometimes you will need to prompt them so to speak.

They will ask you when did A, B or C start. If your memory is dodgy at times, it's best to try to write out what happened, when it started, what it feels like etc. etc. INCLUDE ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING, even if it doesn't sound like a symptom to you.

Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:22

Your BP is a bit low but not alarmingly so. It would suggest a degree of dehydration.

Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:27

If they ask you a question such as 'where is the pain?' You need to have a specific list. When pain feels like it's all over you, saying 'it's everywhere' won't help. You need to describe the pain and also where you feel the pain is originating from. Try to write out what I call 'A brief history of time'. So, when the symptoms started. What were they? When did they start? What has got worse? When did it get worse?

Diet.
Bowel movements
Urine
Pain
Memory

Anything that is bothering you.

Most important is what medication you are prescribed but also, what supplements you are taking. Include EVERYTHING. Antihistamines, vitamin supplements, prescribed meds, pain relief etc.

OliveRanch · 06/08/2022 12:28

Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:21

Be prepared to give a full history to the Neurologist. They'll have standard questions, but sometimes you will need to prompt them so to speak.

They will ask you when did A, B or C start. If your memory is dodgy at times, it's best to try to write out what happened, when it started, what it feels like etc. etc. INCLUDE ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING, even if it doesn't sound like a symptom to you.

I’m planning on writing a timeline of symptoms like I did when I first saw a gynae about my pelvic pain. It’s easy to forget important things at the time. I’ll include everything even though it makes me feel like a hypochondriac Blush

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Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:30

Lol, let's hope you're not referred to psychiatry 😂

Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:31

If you're experiencing pain, I would recommend going to the appointment without having taken any pain relief prior to it. Only if that makes the appointment bearable. If you have taken pain relief prior to the appointment, you need to tell them.

Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:33

Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:31

If you're experiencing pain, I would recommend going to the appointment without having taken any pain relief prior to it. Only if that makes the appointment bearable. If you have taken pain relief prior to the appointment, you need to tell them.

The reason I am saying that is when the consultant asks you about the pain, you will be feeling it, so better placed to describe it. Did they give an indication of how long the referral will take?

OliveRanch · 06/08/2022 12:34

I was diagnosed with a heart condition when I was 8. It took ages to get anyone to take me seriously and even after my diagnosis, when having a flare up, teachers didn’t believe me and I was told it was anxiety, nausea or just wanting to get out of doing sports Angry then I had it all again as an adult when I started having symptoms of endometriosis. I’ve come to associate feeling unwell with shame and a sense of not being believed, being a burden/inconvenience etc. So this latest experience is really testing me Sad

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OliveRanch · 06/08/2022 12:36

Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:33

The reason I am saying that is when the consultant asks you about the pain, you will be feeling it, so better placed to describe it. Did they give an indication of how long the referral will take?

She said something about it being a rapid acute referral and likely weeks not months.

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Angrymum22 · 06/08/2022 12:37

Your calcium supplement is a little on the high side if you are eating a healthy diet you may be overdosing. Look up hypercalcemia.

forlornlorna1 · 06/08/2022 12:38

Hi op. Sorry to hear you're going through all this. If you can write down a timeline of symptoms for the neurologist. The amount of times I've seen mine and forgotten stuff (damn MS brain fog) best of luck x

Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:40

OliveRanch · 06/08/2022 12:36

She said something about it being a rapid acute referral and likely weeks not months.

Excellent. If symptoms worsen, you really need to call 111 again or 999 if you feel you need an emergency response. Please don't think that you're wasting anyone's time. You're not. You're suffering and something is causing it. Healthy people do not experience your symptoms. There is something not right. Finding out what it is is the equivalent of solving a problem to doctors. They love finding a solution. You are not wasting anyone's time.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 06/08/2022 12:44

OliveRanch · 06/08/2022 12:06

Oh and my diet is good. I don’t eat processed foods apart from biscuits which are a bit of a weakness. Lots of fruit and veg every day. Small amounts of dairy each day, eggs a few times a week. Fish fairly regularly and occasional lamb. Also use B complex spray most days. So no reason my b12 or folate should be low unless there’s an absorption problem I think.

B complex spray - flushing/tingling/burning sensation can be a reaction to thiamine or niacin on an empty stomach, can't remember which.

Dalint · 06/08/2022 12:46

OliveRanch · 06/08/2022 12:34

I was diagnosed with a heart condition when I was 8. It took ages to get anyone to take me seriously and even after my diagnosis, when having a flare up, teachers didn’t believe me and I was told it was anxiety, nausea or just wanting to get out of doing sports Angry then I had it all again as an adult when I started having symptoms of endometriosis. I’ve come to associate feeling unwell with shame and a sense of not being believed, being a burden/inconvenience etc. So this latest experience is really testing me Sad

It's extremely important that you tell them about that diagnosis. They might not see it on their files.