To think I should be paid for having to do online training before starting job?

[Swallowsleaving]

I have to do eight online courses and they amount to about an hour each (give or take.) So a days work.

AIBU to think they really should be paid? Feeling a bit cross at having to take valuable time out to do them.

Yes 100%
These are normally done in induction week in my office

The fact that they are notnwould have me worrying how legit and professional the company will be. Will you be working online from home as well? Lots of people getting stung with that kind of job finding the dont get the work_hours they were promised.

These are paid at my workplace ( NHS) even for Bank staff.

YANBU! Of course they need to pay you. It’s not a hobby - it’s paid work.

No, it’s a teaching job. I get that with teaching there’s an expectation you do some work outside of the hours in the classroom, I have no problem with that, but this is annoying me.

Are they actually an hour or is that the 'suggested' time?

I've done plenty of online courses and seminar type things that said they would be 30 minutes, but generally you can click through the slides in five minutes and get your certificate by answering five easy, multiple choice questions.

Are the online courses official qualifications and/or certificates you could potentially use to advance into another job? If so, I might suck it up, especially if they weren’t asking me to pay for it, whereas if I did the courses separate from the job I would have to.

If it’s just in relation to this particular job, I’d be annoyed.

I've never been paid as a teacher before starting - you are just expected to get everything ready for your new class etc in the holidays unpaid. You could ask but, rightly or wrongly, it's very much not the culture of the job.

They are videos so yes unfortunately!

They aren’t all exactly an hour, some are thirty minutes but some are an hour and a half so amounts to around eight hours, five or take thirty minutes.

I know. I’m not going to ask, I know it’s unpaid.

But I do think it’s wrong and it annoys me.

The whole job is like this unfortunately. In the end the resentment caused by the conditions (not particularly the financial ones but the whole culture) got the better of me and I left the profession. Good luck OP

This training is a new one, though, unless it’s been a thing for years and I haven’t been aware but I haven’t had to do it before starting a new job before. Most annoying.

That doesn’t sound typical of teaching to me at all - this should be part of your inset.

Even my tight-arsed organisation that knocked off 5 minutes for class transitions and 20 mins morning breaks, couldn't pay us for team 'catch-ups' as opposed to 'meetings' and queried our being paid for appraisal meetings did pay us for mandatory on-line training!!

Despite lots of comments on MN teachers get paid for the job not the hours in the classroom.
Therefore you would be expected to work before/after the school day. Teachers also do prep etc in the summer holidays getting ready for the new term so surely this would be part of that?
Are you new to teaching?

Most definitely not new to teaching, I am ancient.

However, I have never had to do numerous online courses prior to starting a job.

Of course it's not fair, but very little about working in teaching is, unfortunately. The profession should be bending over backwards to accommodate and retain existing teachers, instead of the ridiculous attitude they have of letting experienced staff move on, because they can always get cheaper NQTs.🙄

I had this with a job last year except it was 13 courses and I’m support staff so not on a huge wage! Suffice to say I don’t work at that school anymore……

I’m a teacher and we’ve had to do loads of video courses recently (fire safety, safeguarding etc) We we’re given time in inset/weekly meeting time to do these but as a new member of staff I’d put in a request for TOIL or a day overtime. Shouldn’t be a problem.

WERE

Had to do hours of training to work in a vaccination centre - NHS. Not paid a penny. We were then TUPED and our new employer wanted us to redo all the training again. Thankfully sense prevailed

I had this once at a college - I was teaching one afternoon a week for about eight weeks and I had a ridiculous amount of training to complete! I stayed after class to fo one each week and finished them just as I was leaving!!

Isn’t a teachers role salaried as opposed to an hourly wage?

I had this at a new school. Some really ridiculous ones, like adjusting chairs for proper lumber support etc (ha, I use the same plastic chair in my office as the kids do!) I didn’t have to do it before I started though; I had a month or so and just clicked through them during a non teaching period. Annoying but not excessively onerous.

@Bluntness100

Isn’t a teachers role salaried as opposed to an hourly wage?

Yes, but a new contract would start in September.