To think hygiene standards are low in Britain?

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This obviously does not apply to everyone. But in Britain, I think there is a general acceptance of fairly low hygiene standards. I see it in several areas.
With individuals you have people telling everyone they do not wash bras for months, do not clean their teeth every day, do not wash face masks every day.
In public areas, offices and shops the cleaning often consist of no more than a quick hoover occasionally, a mop and a bit of damp wiping. Apart from toilets, places are rarely properly cleaned.
I think most people simply do not realise how unhygienic Britain is until they go to countries that do have a good standard of hygiene. There seems to be a lot of emphasis in Britain on superficial things that make places look good such as scatter cushions or make-up, and not on basic hygiene and cleanliness.
AIBU?

@Ddot

Litter tray in kitchen, guilty! Sink bowl, guilty! Carpets, guilty! Cat on bed, guilty! Cluttered, guilty! Anyone fancy a cuppa at mine 🤣🤣

Yes please.

@ChocOrange1

I want to know why this is a problem. Why does it matter if someone is using a "visibly filthy keyboard" or only washes their face mask once a month. Does it make them ill? Does it make them smell? Does it affect their life or the lives of others? If not then why does it matter?

I've asked this several times on this thread, and have had no response.

I think we can assume that the lack of response is because it does not matter!

My house is a tip at the moment, stuff all over the place. In my defence I spent all day painting my dds room.

Had a cat, the litter tray was kept in the downstairs loo. Had 2 dogs who would have eaten the poop, if it been kept in the kitchen.
Had a washing up bowl, only because the sink didn't have a plug.
Dogs on the sofa, bed, upstairs all over the house.

UK is fine IMO. I'd say Germany and Sweden were super-clean, France and Italy could do better.

@Ddot

Litter tray in kitchen, guilty! Sink bowl, guilty! Carpets, guilty! Cat on bed, guilty! Cluttered, guilty! Anyone fancy a cuppa at mine 🤣🤣

I'll bring

@Coolandclamy

I forgot to mention the lovely habit of blowing into a handkerchief stuffing up their sleeves or into their pockets. Then put it comes again, they open it out, sometimes shake it, proceed to use it again and that can be repeated many times. The same snorted into areas being turned inside out and all around.

Literally have never met anyone under the age of 40, probably 50, who owns a handkerchief. Can think of about 4 people over that age I know who do.

Same with the no showers thing mentioned early in the thread. Have never visited anyone, including my grandparents, who doesn't have a shower. Mixer taps are also often mentioned and again we're up thread - these haven't been installed in most bathrooms since the 1980s. That's 40 years ago! Same for bathroom carpet. Life has lived on since 1980!

@Coolandclamy

Lifespan does not equate to how healthy a person is.

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‘I'll bring cake‘

Yes please, home made I hope.

I forgot to mention the lovely habit of blowing into a handkerchief stuffing up their sleeves or into their pockets. Then put it comes again, they open it out, sometimes shake it, proceed to use it again and that can be repeated many times. The same snorted into areas being turned inside out and all around

I mean... are you living in the 1920’s or something? Having lived in 7 different counties in the U.K, I have never seen anyone use a handkerchief.

@Coolandclamy

Panting and shouting in people’s faces are unhygienic. But you are doing the classic - you asked why yawning is unhygienic and I’ve told you. It is not only unmannerly it is unhygienic in public spaces. You want to move on to panting, signing, etc. Sure. Knock yourself out in listing all the activities we do with our mouths. Point is, yawning without covering your mouth in public is both unseemly and unhygienic.

Have you considered therapy. You sound quite unhinged.

I'm intrigued by these "people" who used to be out scrubbing the front step, keep their apartments in Spain spotlessly clean etc. I think we all know we mean women mostly

Regards Keyboards - especially in DWP/Local Authority public use places like DWP jobcentres/libraries & don't even get me going on SWIMMING POOLS - even before COVID started I remember in the months up to retirement I had to sign on & go through the charade of jobsearching & I always took my own bacterial wipes to wipe the computer keyboard, mouse and desk - the same in libraries - I took my own wipes - I'm hoping that self -sanitising items will be freely available in all public buildings/areas in the future. Also I'd love to know why it can't be made mandatory in UK for anyone using public swimming pools to not wear T shirts/shorts but proper swimwear, caps & flip flops to stop cross infection.

How would swimwear prevent infection any more than a T-shirt/shorts? This thread is increasingly bonkers.

If you’re @Coolandclamy I’d suggest you need to shower more...

Coolandclamy definitely lives next to my auntie. Cats everywhere and a handkerchief up multiple sleeves

[quote maggiethecat]@deydododatdodontdeydo
"That's illegal in the UK, which is why you have a separate person taking money or they remove gloves. If you see people doing it, they're breaking the law. We have excellent food hygeine inspection systems here."

Well, up and down the country cafes are breaking the law filling panini and baps with tuna mayo etc. Apart from department store cafes I truly cannot recall seeing a cafe with a cashier reserved strictly for taking payment.[/quote]
I agree with small bakeries/food counters etc. It's disgusting that they get away with handling food and money whilst wearing the same gloves.

Hygiene inspections are often "desktop" audits rather than real/in-person "watch what you do" checks. These places will have a work instruction in their operating procedures file to say staff must change their gloves or different staff should do the separate duties, and that means they'll get a "tick" when the inspector comes to check. The usually check the paperwork/files rather than actually spending the time to actually observe what the reality really is.

I thought money handling was no more. It's all contactless payments, even for thruppence

@user1497207191
Businesses know that the excellent food hygiene inspection system mentioned by a pp is just tick box that’s why they can ignore the rules.

It will be interesting to see if places operate differently (or are forced to) when things are back to normal and whether people will carry increased hygiene awareness forward with them, perhaps calling out the practice when it happens.

Just a couple of years ago, I watched a prog on TV showing a factory making sandwiches for supermarkets/shops, I have NEVER bought one since, they used their bare hands to push the salad down, you would have to have seen it all to believe it, WHERE was our hygienist then for such a big place.

One thing that really cracks me up is people wiping all the food they buy in the supermarket with wet wipes - anti-BACTERIAL wet wipes. It's pitiful.

One thing that really cracks me up is people wiping all the food they buy in the supermarket with wet wipes - anti-BACTERIAL wet wipes. It's pitiful.

@gadgeladyZO9

Just a couple of years ago, I watched a prog on TV showing a factory making sandwiches for supermarkets/shops, I have NEVER bought one since, they used their bare hands to push the salad down, you would have to have seen it all to believe it, WHERE was our hygienist then for such a big place.

Apparently it’s more hygienic to use bare hands. People wash their hands more frequently than they change gloves. It doesn’t bother me in the slightest.

More than half of the cells in anyone bodies are microbial cells.

Many of those do very important roles for us, including keeping the few nasty bacterias away from our body.
This antibacteria, crazy hygiene standards, will only lead to one thing, a lot of resistant bacteria that will cause us a lot of headache in the future.