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To think hygiene standards are low in Britain?

834 replies

castemary · 10/05/2021 10:46

This obviously does not apply to everyone. But in Britain, I think there is a general acceptance of fairly low hygiene standards. I see it in several areas.
With individuals you have people telling everyone they do not wash bras for months, do not clean their teeth every day, do not wash face masks every day.
In public areas, offices and shops the cleaning often consist of no more than a quick hoover occasionally, a mop and a bit of damp wiping. Apart from toilets, places are rarely properly cleaned.
I think most people simply do not realise how unhygienic Britain is until they go to countries that do have a good standard of hygiene. There seems to be a lot of emphasis in Britain on superficial things that make places look good such as scatter cushions or make-up, and not on basic hygiene and cleanliness.
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countrygirl99 · 11/05/2021 10:36

@Onlinedilema

Someone up thread mentioned Hong Kong. Are you serious? A place where people regularly spit and pick their noses whilst eating in public.
And Japan where cherry blossom season picnics are often surrounded by vomit (that one particularly appalled a Chinese friend)
WiseUpJanetWeiss · 11/05/2021 11:23

I also think many people don’t understand bacteria and viruses and how they spread

The irony...

GappyValley · 11/05/2021 11:25

@Onlinedilema

Someone up thread mentioned Hong Kong. Are you serious? A place where people regularly spit and pick their noses whilst eating in public.
I've travelled to many, many countries, but Hong Kong is the only place where I've regularly had food poisoning...
waterlego · 11/05/2021 12:31

And Japan where cherry blossom season picnics are often surrounded by vomit

Oh! 😫 Why so much vomit?

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 11/05/2021 12:36

Because cherry blossom involves people who don’t habitually get drunk, getting drunk under cherry trees where there might not be any handy toilets.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 11/05/2021 12:48

The British Beer garden is a wasp magnet because unlike abroad rarely gets hosed down and properly cleaned.

Another utterly bizarre post.
I've been pestered by wasps in pretty much every country I've sat and had a drink in. Portugal, Greece and Canada probably the worst.
Colder countries better. Nothing to do with being hosed down.

the80sweregreat · 11/05/2021 13:42

If it's not wasps it's flies bothering me in pub garden in the summer time.
They did wash the outside benches down in my local in the summer : covid preventative measures had a few advantages!!

deydododatdodontdeydo · 11/05/2021 14:21

I have never seen a shoe rack outside the changing room or in the lobby in any swimming pool in Britain.

All the UK swimming pools I've been to in the last 20 years have had "no outdoor shoes in changing area" signs, and those blue shoe covers, but I haven't seen a shoe rack.

HectorHalloumi · 11/05/2021 14:31

@BeneathYourWisdom

I still can’t believe it’s not yet the norm here to have a hose installed next to the loo, and wash yourself with warm running water instead of dry paper! Dry toilet paper, why? If you don’t have a hose or jug you could at least use wet wipes or that foamy gel stuff on the paper. I’ve lived abroad and going back to English bathrooms can be a shock.

Even the layout is often unhygienic eg toothbrushes stored next to the loo so every time it’s flushed they get splashed with loo germs. The fastest way to spread norovirus and other bugs! Mouldy carpet edges and poor ventilation so everything stays damp.

I think carpet in bathrooms is very unhygienic. Wet rooms are much better, you just disinfect the floor and hose it down. In many countries kitchen floors have drains too, so when you’ve finished cooking you spray it then hose it down and all the dirty water goes down a drain. Saves using a grubby mop and you know it’s always clean, no splashes of oil or sauce or juice left for weeks to gather bacteria and fluff.

I’m shocked people don’t always clean their kitchen and bathroom sinks daily, clean their loo after each use and generally keep on top of basic hygiene like wiping down surfaces with Dettol before and after food prep.

I think it’s important to shower before going to work if you’ll be in close proximity to others, use anti perspirant and wear freshly washed clothes. With close family it’s still good hygiene to wash hands regularly, clean and floss teeth twice a day and wash feet, armpits, genital area, face every morning even if not taking a shower. Plus clean underwear.

Obviously if someone has disabilities or these self care tasks use up a lot of energy it’s a different matter. But a lot of people without disabilities don’t seem to care/notice if they’re wearing the same clothes to work day after day or have greasy hair and dandruff or smell of stale sweat.

I also think it’s really grim to wear outdoor shoes indoors (unheard of in much of the world, and the height of rudeness in many countries). Carpet or rugs or wooden floors, why bring pavement dirt and bacteria into your home?

I’m also not keen on pets indoors unless they have a specific room, their own bed in that room and this room is thoroughly cleaned and vacuumed daily to prevent pet smell and shedded hair building up. Let alone pets in kitchens.

I also think many people don’t understand bacteria and viruses and how they spread, eg damp towels and damp bath robes are a breeding ground for microbes, and bacteria can quickly multiply on uncovered food left out of the fridge.

Same with dust and limescale, if you keep on top of it there’s no build up. And washing machines, why don’t people clean the filter and run the machine on a hot cycle every month at least?

Come on Mrs Hinch, isn't there a book you could be reading instead? Grin

Bul21ia · 11/05/2021 14:37

I think the brushing teeth part must be true. I have never came across this IRL though I have read a few tales on here!

Public areas is a hard one as they are busy places and probably only get cleaned a few times a day!

Spectrumofhumanlife · 11/05/2021 14:40

I have never seen a shoe rack outside the changing room or in the lobby in any swimming pool in Britain

Our leisure centre has a shoe rack outside the changing rooms. All shoes must be removed before entering the changing area. Bog standard council run leisure centre in a nondescript part of the East Midlands. Cant be that unusual.

Bul21ia · 11/05/2021 14:43

@lazylinguist

I agree , carpets in bathrooms just one example.

I haven't seen carpet in a UK bathroom since the 1980s.

I glad someone noticed this. I haven’t seen carpets in bathrooms for years either. Where are some people living Confused
TableFlowerss · 11/05/2021 15:29

Personally I’d rather people kept their shoes on than exposed my bare feet to their athletes’ foot and veruccas. The obsession with taking shoes off amazes me. We don’t do it in hotels and it’s rare to see filthy carpets in those

@Blossomtoes

I recon most people wear sucks in Britain. Aside from sandles in summer where you do have a point. I wouldn’t want sweaty feet on my carpet either but if Fahd that iced shoes from outside, as Christ knows what’s lurking on the bottom of shoes that you can’t see- including clean looking hotel carpets. Might look clean but I wouldn’t like to see what shoes up on a swab!

TableFlowerss · 11/05/2021 15:29

Well I hope that makes sense 😂

Bul21ia · 11/05/2021 15:37

I would rather sweaty feet on my carpet than dog shit shoes!

Grin
waterlego · 11/05/2021 15:43

Ah, I see @TheCountessofFitzdotterel. That sounds grim!

freckles20 · 11/05/2021 15:47

Can I ask a question to the people who think Britain has low standards of hygiene?

What do you feel the consequences are, or might be?

My standards are lower than many on this thread. My home looks clean and smells pleasant. My family and I are healthy, and don't suffer from allergies, colds or tummy upsets. We scrub up well when needed.

What am I risking by having standards that many would perceive as low?

Spectrumofhumanlife · 11/05/2021 15:52

@freckles20

Can I ask a question to the people who think Britain has low standards of hygiene?

What do you feel the consequences are, or might be?

My standards are lower than many on this thread. My home looks clean and smells pleasant. My family and I are healthy, and don't suffer from allergies, colds or tummy upsets. We scrub up well when needed.

What am I risking by having standards that many would perceive as low?

Well, carpeted stairs are a no no for hygiene reasons apparently so they must have been proven to have caused illness or death... oh wait. Fact is, the vast majority of these things deemed to be unhygienic will have absolutely no negative consequences for anyone.
MimiDaisy11 · 11/05/2021 16:30

@Spectrumofhumanlife

I have never seen a shoe rack outside the changing room or in the lobby in any swimming pool in Britain

Our leisure centre has a shoe rack outside the changing rooms. All shoes must be removed before entering the changing area. Bog standard council run leisure centre in a nondescript part of the East Midlands. Cant be that unusual.

In my local pool in Edinburgh as well you have to cover your shoes or take them off.
MimiDaisy11 · 11/05/2021 16:33

No using table cloths? What's unhygienic about not using table cloths? That's just odd. Obviously, you just wipe the table afterwards. Much more environmentally friendly too than washing a sheet after every meal. Some of the things on this are just bizarre.

LST · 11/05/2021 16:47

@MimiDaisy11

No using table cloths? What's unhygienic about not using table cloths? That's just odd. Obviously, you just wipe the table afterwards. Much more environmentally friendly too than washing a sheet after every meal. Some of the things on this are just bizarre.
I've never in my life owned a table cloth!
NursePye · 11/05/2021 16:55

Oh Jolly Good - it's this week's let's bash the British thread!!

@BraveBraveMouse - I am thoroughly proud of the "acceptance of dogs" in this country, as you so wonderfully put it. I would far rather accept a dog, than most of the judgemental idiots on here who seem obsessed with how others wash their bottoms Grin.

FWIW our dog is happy to wash his own bottom and..., get ready, you might want to sit down for this one..., he sometimes does it on our sofa Shock Grin.

In other shocking news, we have a washing up bowl, we wear shoes in the house (no carpets) and we cook unwashed chicken. Now that's British Values for you Grin.

HectorHalloumi · 11/05/2021 17:01

You make me proud to be British NursePye 👍🇬🇧 🐕 😊

united4ever · 11/05/2021 17:09

@waterlego

And Japan where cherry blossom season picnics are often surrounded by vomit

Oh! 😫 Why so much vomit?

That may be the case about the cherry blossom parties but in general hygiene is much better in Japan than the UK
BeneathYourWisdom · 11/05/2021 17:10

a high number of people have athletes foot which I don’t want on my carpets - that’s more gross than shoes after you’ve wiped them on entering. I wouldn’t call sweaty athletes foot covered feet hygienic

It’s a bit rude to go barefoot in somebody else’s house no matter how nice your feet are. You keep your socks on or accept a pair of slippers or keep a pair of socks in your handbag?

We have a basket of fluffy white washable slippers by the front door, I’ve never had a guest refuse them and insist on going barefoot. They get hot washed at 60 with whitening bio powder between guests! Most people say how comfortable they are (think towelling closed toe spa slippers with padding).