Would you trust someone with these convictions?

[goodbyeyellowbrick]

Would you trust a female who at age 17 got these two convictions -

• breach of the peace domestic
• assault to injury domestic

And then at 19 got these two convictions -

• communications act domestic
• drink driving

Would you trust her? She is 30 now and has had no issues with the law since and has seemed to turn her life around. Would you still think she was the same person though inherently?

[goodbyeyellowbrick]

@DuchessOfBuggerAll it's not my own scenario though

[LexMitior]

Did this person go to prison?

I think they aren’t probably a great candidate for caring or relationship building jobs. But probably many other sources of employment which would be fine.

The actual convictions are for a woman to have been convicted of violence offence, and two that are acting anti socially, and then one based on communication, combined with the domestic element is more serious and unusual than a bit of shoplifting or drunk and disorderly.

It is rare for women to get convicted of offences with a domestic abuse element which would concern me.

[Stichintime]

Bit of a strange post really. She's about to graduate as a social worker, so her past convictions are no longer considered relevant. There's no reason she would be treated any differently to any other graduate social worker, as they've all been through the same vetting process.

[skeggycaggy]

Yes Stichintime this question is making less & less sense, seems more irrelevant the more is posted.

[Illberidingshotgun]

It sounds like this woman experienced quite a difficult situation as a teen (perhaps before as well?) therefore I would think this would give her a better insight into the difficult and complex lives that many people have, making her potentially better and more empathetic social worker.

Everyone has the right to make mistakes, and to turn their life around. I would admire this person and certainly not see any reason why she could be a social worker, assuming of course that her prior convictions didn't cause any problems with the DBS process.

[AnneLovesGilbert]

Stop being vague and annoying.

[paralysedbyinertia]

If it isn't your own scenario, OP, why are you posting? Is it your dc?

[Illberidingshotgun]

couldn't be a social worker...

[Pupster21]

Yes

[Plumtree391]

Yes I would, what she was long ago. A teenager is different to a thirty year old.

[Ted27]

I would have thought given her difficult past she would have a great deal of empathy and understanding of the circumstances of people needing to use social services and this will make her a better social worker

[Tlollj]

This is like pulling teeth. If she’s just qualified then she will be vetted?
Why do you ask? Give us a bit more info then we can answer with full knowledge of the question.

[RJnomore1]

It would depend on her current stability and what she was posting say all over social media for example too.

But none of us can give you an answer.

[Gazelda]

As an employer, I'd want to know more about the circumstances but provided she has good qualifications for the job, then yes I would trust her.

As someone who might be allocated her as 'my' social worker, then yes I would because it demonstrates that she has life experience and hopefully compassionate empathy.

As a friend, yes.

As a partner, yes.

[LIZS]

Trust her to do what exactly?

[Theglassmakerofmurano]

@goodbyeyellowbrick

What about her becoming a social worker? Would she be trusted in that aspect?

Absolutely not. Four offences is hardly a one off.

[cantstopthefeeling]

I agree with others, I would trust her - it's about rehabilitation and the time since these convictions. It is up to the regulator but context and the time since the convictions are important, this is a long time ago during late teenage years, why should the presumption be it is a problem? Many who go into social work have experienced difficulties in their past and this is what drives them to help others.

[Clutterbugsmum]

Well it’s doesn’t really matter whether joe bloggs on the street would trust them, it’s whether or not ‘they’ would be able to get clearance to be a social worker.

[IoIdoIdoOoh]

Yes I would trust this person as I tend not to judge people on things that happened over 10 years ago with nothing similar since.
At 18 I was in a controlling relationship and did something so stupid due to pressure from him, I was arrested and convicted, a little while later I also did something silly and was arrested - public order offence, given a fine for that one.
I am now 31 and only very recently would I be able to do an enhanced dbs check and not have it show up.
I've spent the last 9ish years regretting it every day and have only had shit jobs that wouldn't need a check as I was so mortified by what I had done and terrified of getting a chance somewhere and that ruining it because of people judging me for past mistakes, I couldn't even volunteer to help read in my kids school as they would have found out.
I'm so grateful that it won't be disclosed now and can hopefully do something that I would like to do and that I know I would be amazing at.
Luckily I haven't lost my current job due to covid but I hate it and when able to I plan to start volunteering in a local school with a view to hopefully becoming a TA in the short term and the world is now my oyster for the long term.
I've had years of regret and fear of being judged so I would say to give this person an opportunity to show they've changed their ways and that it was just mistakes they've made.
It could mean everything to them.

[AvocadosBeforeMortgages]

It wouldn't worry me on a personal level.

Even as a business owner it wouldn't put me off too much if she was adequately qualified otherwise. That said, if the role involved driving I'd have to scout the insurance policy to find out if the drink driving conviction would affect the policy or premiums, and if it would I wouldn't employ her in a driving role.

[IoIdoIdoOoh]

Oh sorry, missed the bit about them being a social worker although still not sure why you've posted so my message still stands.

[Springersrock]

Yes, I would trust her.

DH and I used to be foster carers, mainly for older teens. Their criminal records were more often than not as long as their arms, with time spent in juvenile detention centres.

Most of their crimes were committed when in toxic situations. Having been removed from the situation, with care and support, most of them have gone on to settle down, mature and get qualifications and jobs. One of ours now works in children’s services as a support worker for other teens, and is looking to start a social work degree. Her experiences back then make her the perfect person to support other teens who are in the position she used to be.

[Foolintherain]

I wouldn't trust this OP, no.

[RJnomore1]

What was the disposal of the offences OP?

[LEMtheoriginal]

Unless she did anything to make me question her trust i wouldn't even consider it