To turn down a 3x salary job?

[Fressia123]

I'm really really torn. Earlier in the year I got offered a job that pays £60k. I couldn't take it as it required relocation. They just got back to me to say they're happy to offer same role, different location but within commuting distance (1 hour drive). My current job pays £21k. I love what I'm building with it but I seriously doubt it will ever get beyond £30k. So it's between loving my company/job and the £££s. I'm absolutely torn.

[biddybird]

Do it, live within your current means and retire early.

[CaveMum]

Yes that sounds very similar @Fressia123. To be fair the Military programme means that they are paid a higher salary than the role usually commands but the trade off is they’re expected to work very hard (DH’s offer included 12 hour shifts, with a 2 hour each way commute) and moving between different locations over a 2 year period - a kind of fast track to senior management.

It could be great for you, but just go into it fully aware that Amazon will expect you to work for every penny of your salary, but there are good benefits and as I said before, it will look great on your CV.

[floofycroissant]

YABU. Take it.

Your last AIBU post about your £1k promotion really highlights that your present company are going to make you jump through hoops to get where you think want to be and they'll likely not compensate/value you even when you do.

I've been in a similar situation, flogging my guts out to prove myself. The only thing that made me realise that I was never going to achieve it and be respected was finding out my previous equal was paid 45% more.

Being in a company where they prioritise cheap labour is incredibly demoralising and wears you down. And I guarantee not everyone is treated equally.

Your new job may not be forever. But it's a new challenge and no one is going view having being headhunted by amazon on you CV as a negative. You can always go back to music.

[cozycat1]

Op, not sure Amazon would appreciate you giving out details of job offers, complete with job roles and pay on a public forum.

[Gwenhwyfar]

@WotWouldCJDo

So it's between loving my company/job and the £££s.

Purpose, values and relationships are very important to happiness. Far more than £££. So, I think it depends on how much you need the money. If you don’t need it, don’t be tempted thinking it will buy you happiness.

Not sure about this. on £60k you might be able to do something similar in the future but part time and spend some time volunteering or save money you can donate to your favourite charities. It just gives options, doesn't it?

[amusedbush]

You wouldn't see me for dust if someone offered me £60k a year. As others have said, this opportunity probably won't come up again on your current salary but moving to this job gives you much more leverage for your next role. You'll find it a lot easier to move above that salary bracket if you have a couple of years on £60k under your belt.

[AcornAutumn]

@wigglerose

I couldn't hand in my notice quickly enough.

Your company would bin you without a second thought if necessary, always remember that.

Like other posters have said, you could take a step back if it doesn't work out in the future.

Also, it might open new doors for you.

This

[Chewbecca]

Go for it. Very few reasons not to, lots of reasons to.

I know people who work there happily in senior roles.

One other option to consider is to use the offer as a bargaining tool with your current workplace. I.e. tell them you have an offer in hand at £60k, you’d love to stay but obviously that’s not an option with this pay differential. You’d need to decide how much you needed current employer to pay to turn the £60k down. £50k feels right to me.

[Gwenhwyfar]

@cozycat1

Op, not sure Amazon would appreciate you giving out details of job offers, complete with job roles and pay on a public forum.

Considering they're mostly known for badly paid warehouse jobs and probably self-employed drivers, they might be very happy. Also, it's massive isn't it, so who is going to be able to guess which role it is exactly. And wouldn't they put the salary range on a public job ad anyway?

[HarrietPotterska]

That almost sounds too good to be true?

[Fressia123]

@cozycat1 maybe you're right but Indeed/Glassdoor have more detailed information.

[AcornAutumn]

OP what are the cons?

[Fressia123]

My thoughts too @Gwenhwyfar .

Anyways leverage wise I know my current Company will have its limits but I'll definitely have a chat with them anyways.

[ConquestEmpireHungerPlague]

I wouldn't be crazy to work for Amazon for any money but I can see the attraction of a 200% pay rise, especially if you want the job on its own merits too. I would be looking very carefully at job security and T&Cs though. If it doesn't work out you could be a long time looking for another job atm.

[Fressia123]

Of the job offer? Long night shifts and it's logistics so I'm not entirely sure I can go back to traditional corporate.

[Viviennemary]

I don't suppose the cons will be apparent till after OP starts work. Even if this £60K a year job exists. Is the £60k guaranteed or is it up to 60k with commission. I'd be really skeptical I'm afraid. It does sound a bit too good to be true.,

[Cam77]

the point about car/train is valid. 1 hour on the train is ok - you can relax or get stuff done. 1 hour by car (and another 1 hour+ back) isnt my idea of fun.

[Labobo]

Either this is a joke or you have imposter syndrome. Who on earth wouldn't take a three time salary hike? Imagine what it could do for your stress levels to know you never have to worry about a bill, house maintenance etc. That if you are tired you can get a takeaway or hire a cleaner. That if you are stressed you can have a weekend away. That when your child wants to go on a school trip or get a decent computer, you can just agree to it. That if you need dental treatment you don't have to worry.

I can't imagine dithering about this level of security in life.

[Fressia123]

My previous role (before I was made redundant) paid £50k plus bonus. So it's not completely crazy.

Ive always worked in a niche industry though and getting jobs that were local to me was hard. That's how I ended up with my current role.

[BarbaraofSeville]

@RaspberryCoulis

I can't believe this is even a question.

Yes I can see that if it were £2k more then there's a balance to be struck between the familiarity and comfort, and the risk of trying something new and not liking it.

But for 3 times as much? You'd be insane not to take it. Are you generally very risk averse and terrified of change, OP?

But its not three times as much. Once extra tax, NI, extra commuting costs, pension, student loans, loss of CB if the OP has DC are all taken into account, its probably twice as much if that, plus the cost of all the extra help she might end up buying in at home because she has no time to do it herself.

Not to be sniffed at, but for £60k, Amazon probably really want their pound of flesh and its pretty much a 24/7/365 business, so if there's a problem with whatever operation she's managing, she's going to be working, even if she's already done her hours that week, even if she's sick or on leave etc etc.

So it's definitely worth having a good think about whether she really wants that role before jumping ship. Life's not all about money and not everyone wants to live to work and if you're a work to live person, it's probably going to be miserable, no matter how much money you have. And if she doesn't perform to Amazon's expectations, she can be out on her ear and unemployed very quickly.

[CakeRequired]

I'm kind of split on this.

On the one hand, you'd be mad not to take it with that kind of jump in salary. It will open a lot of opportunities for your family, you'll be able to buy things you couldn't before, be more financially secure etc.

However, 21k to 60k is a massive jump in not only salary, but grade effectively. I've got a few concerns with that.

1. Can you cope with the increased workload that will probably be more difficult than you're used to? Do you have the skills and experience to know how to handle issues?
2. Your current work hours will be pretty standard, overtime not expected, a typical 9-5 job. A 60k job, especially at somewhere like amazon, almost expects overtime, for free. Your contract may say 9-5, but I think you'll be lucky to be leaving that building at 6 most days, and then maybe some work at home as well at night. So you might find yourself leaving home at 6am to get to work early to do work without being bothered, and not leaving until 6, not getting home til 7pm at the earliest. How does that fit in with your children?

It's a great opportunity, and despite loving your job you must have wanted to move if you applied for somewhere else. But think about this carefully, it won't be like your old job. There will be a lot more expected from you.

[Fressia123]

It's a lot like my old job as BPO manager for another .com. my team was of 200 indirect reports, 7 directs.

I was always on call.

[Regularsizedrudy]

Oh my god take it you fool!

[HarrietPotterska]

Ah, your update make the jump make more sense.
What are your concerns?