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DP, his mother, and money

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Janesandian · 30/11/2020 23:52

I have posted about DP and his family, especially his mother before under another name. I have to be careful as she may be on here, no idea! The general consensus was that DP belonged on the Stately Homes thread. When he read the thread he kept saying “omg mum does this” “this is what she says” and was quite sad but felt validated. He still seems to be vying for her attention though. I think she fits the NPD description well.

Anyway, the problem. DP has two siblings (the golden child, older), Amy, and (the baby, younger) Connor. Amy got married in 2017 and his mum gave them £10k towards it. She says it’s £6k but the maths is easy. All along she said how she would give us the same.
We then got engaged, she reiterated about giving us the money. Once when DP was alone with her she went on about how my parents should give us money as they are lying about their wealth (I grew up in poverty but they refuse to believe this - my parents are disabled, she has commented that they fake it).

As the wedding was a way away we didn’t really ask for the money and DP felt very awkward. Time and time again she’d bring it up. We now need it. DP has asked for it numerous times.

It also turns out that Connor, who is no where near getting engaged, got given his wedding money lump sum without asking. They said he shouldn’t be penalised if he doesn’t want to get married. He’s been with a girl 6 years but they don’t approve of her because of her job (classical music related - she is very intelligent but the industry isn’t high paying) and because she’s “fat”. (They have literally said this)

They just don’t seem to be giving the money. I wouldn’t normally care as it’s their money. But they have really made it a thing that they will give it but we’ve mentioned it a few times outright and she’s said to me “let us know when you want the money” so I said “can we have it now please? The deposits are all due” and she never sent it. DP just got a text saying they get paid on X date so can have it then, she said the same thing last month. His parents are wealthy and they just spent £20k on plastic surgery - again, their money, their choice, but they aren’t hard up.

Is this when DP needs to call it a day? We are hosting them for Xmas and I’m dreading the sarcasm and arguments as his mum says something provocative (last time I saw her she turned to me out the blue and said “your friends baby is so ugly isn’t he”). She comments on our finances all the time (“can you afford that”).

Both his siblings are higher earners, we are probably least well off although still doing okay.

Help?

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LightDrizzle · 01/12/2020 09:44

OP you need to stop your little acts of appeasement. A nice person who liked you would receive them with a warm glow and it WOULD strengthen regard, however to a bully like your MIL, it just confirms your weakness and her rightful position as top dog. I suspect she dislikes all her children’s partners, in your case probably not so much as not being good enough for your fiancé, since she doesn’t seem to rate him that highly, you are probably just the sort of pleasant mediocrity she thought he’d be satisfied with. No, she will dislike them because they don’t meet her high standards, and because as her children pair off, her position as sun to the family’s lesser planets is weakened and she is diminished.
Your only hope of respect as a couple is to demonstrate complete independence; mirror pleasantness, calmly call out rudeness in the moment; and withdraw and disengage from all unpleasantness “... I think that’s our cue to leave...”
Chasing never works and it damages your self esteem, not theirs.
Don’t mention the money and plan without it. If they raise it, which I think they will, your DH should say not to worry, you are managing without, if they persist, citing other siblings etc. I would suggest he says he will email his account details, and if they want to give the money, that would be lovely, but that you are not relying on it so there is no pressure.
If money appears, he can thank them. If not, no mention.
Fuck knows why you are hosting them for Christmas, you’ve made a rod for your own back there. Learn from it!

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Sara2000 · 01/12/2020 09:49

I'd never ask or expect money from her again. She is clearly enjoying the power it gives her.

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RoisinD · 01/12/2020 09:50

Please walk away. Don't mention the money again and if it is offered say 'no thanks'. Don't play her game. Walk and keep your dignity intact.

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kwiksavenofrillsusername · 01/12/2020 09:54

Why would you take a penny from her? They sound awful. Money is power, and if you take any, they will hold it over your head forever. I'd rather have a cheap wedding than deal with a narc for years on end.

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Bettysnow · 01/12/2020 10:04

I think this is very much the carrot and donkey situation. She dangles the carrot and you follow knowing you want it but always keeping it out of reach.
Stop immediately! She knows damn well what shes doing and must be enjoying the thought that you need her money. You could analyse her motives forever but your just wasting valuable time and energy. I would not ask again if she mentions it change the subject. Turn it around on her and watch how upset she becomes when she realizes you are no longer biting! Stepping back a bit is a good idea although remain civil and courteous when you do meet. As for the Christmas visit i would also put the brakes on that. Why should your special day be marred with someone who makes snide, nasty comments about a tiny baby! Let her stomp her feet, shout, threaten all she likes but remain calm and detached.
Remember she chose to create this situation not you so all you can do is change your reactions and continue to enjoy your life without her dominating it.

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Janesandian · 01/12/2020 10:05

@SallySaidHi

I should say DP liked me doing those things because he thought we “looked good” in her books - so he was a good son. Well that makes no sense. Why isn't HE sending cards and gifts if HE wants to look like a good son, or is it just the usual case of 'wife work'? Does DP buy your parents little gifts?

I just enjoy doing it and I am also quite good at it. For example, I'll order something for our dog and then think, what about Lulu (mum's dog)? and so he'll say, ah yes order her one too - it's small but thoughtful things. Not expensive or out my way I guess. I am the designated present buyer in the couple because I love it and spend all day at a computer, he doesn't.
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lazylump72 · 01/12/2020 10:08

OP if i can give you one peice of advice from my 50 yrs on earth it is this...please never let yourself be beholden to anyone financially.If you do your life will not be worth living. You need to exercie the power you have and take it away from dhs parents. You pay for your wedding ,,owe no one anything,,scale back if needs be the end result will be the same..you get to marry thelove of your life whether it costs 50k or 50 quid! If inlaws are involved financially they have a voice and a hold on you as you are now discovering..they can keep you dangling while they play their games and leave you upset and with no piece of mind...take that power away before you get married. I promise you will be so much happier if you forget the promise ever existed.This will put you in a winning position within the family going forward.They will know to take you seriously and they will know you wont lay their games.You need to think on this advice..trust me on this one!

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StormTreader · 01/12/2020 10:13

Are your parent contributing anything towards the wedding, time, effort, anything? Make sure you GUSH about it whenever you see your DHs parents. Find a way to keep turning things back to how generous they are, how appreciated it is, etc etc.
big money mentioning from them
"oh, whatever you can afford of course. I'm just so EXCITED to see my parents do the thing......." etc

Once they see the attention and praise your parents are getting from you both over their part and that they no longer getting any from the unfulfilled promise, they'll rush to actually give you the money to get back into being The Generous Wealthy Ones.

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Janesandian · 01/12/2020 10:19

@StormTreader

Are your parent contributing anything towards the wedding, time, effort, anything? Make sure you GUSH about it whenever you see your DHs parents. Find a way to keep turning things back to how generous they are, how appreciated it is, etc etc.
big money mentioning from them
"oh, whatever you can afford of course. I'm just so EXCITED to see my parents do the thing......." etc

Once they see the attention and praise your parents are getting from you both over their part and that they no longer getting any from the unfulfilled promise, they'll rush to actually give you the money to get back into being The Generous Wealthy Ones.

Yes they have bought my dress. The wedding we've already committed to, and therefore need to pay for, was my idea but one she pushed for. I am embarrassed. I do love the venue though and I know DP would never not invite her.

He has always said he wants a Vegas wedding in the chapel though, which could be quite funny. Part of me is tempted but I am close to my mum and know she would want to be there (she thinks it's weird I'm close to my mum like I am!)
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LoveandHateWhatABeautifulComb · 01/12/2020 10:29

We are hosting them for Xmas and I’m dreading the sarcasm and arguments as his mum says something provocative (last time I saw her she turned to me out the blue and said “your friends baby is so ugly isn’t he”). She comments on our finances all the time (“can you afford that”)

Are you mad? This woman is horrible, and is mean and nasty to everyone. Can you imagine what she says about you behind your back? Don't host her for Xmas, don't take her money, don't have any more to do with her!

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8obbingabout · 01/12/2020 10:31

This woman sounds truly awful.

Think carefully about marrying into this family. You will never get rid of her!

I wouldn't want to accept a penny from this horrible woman personally.

Have you thought about scaling down the wedding and cost so that you can pay for the whole day yourselves without any help form them?

Good Luck

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Sarahandco · 01/12/2020 10:49

They are controlling you with this money. You should scale back your wedding plans and don't take the money from them. The best way to deal with them is simply not to need any money from them - end of story.

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justilou1 · 01/12/2020 11:07

Save your stress. Go to Vegas with your Mum and send them the photos via email.

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justilou1 · 01/12/2020 11:07

Better still, Text

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YoniAndGuy · 01/12/2020 11:10

Do yourselves the biggest favour you will ever do and cut them off before you have your own children.

They will poison your own family.

Show your DH this thread.

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HotPatootiebootie · 01/12/2020 11:22

That's a perfect solution. Go to Vegas and take your mum and dad. It can be done on the cheap. My sister and I got return flights for £340 each and a room for a week on the step for £200 dollars. Book it, sorry out the lot and then just drop it into conversation.

Take the power back.

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Janesandian · 30/12/2020 22:20

Hello all. I thought I’d return to update you on what happened.

DP’s parents did send the money a week before Christmas. It was all a bit awkward but nevermind.

However, we hit new family drama instead. As DP found out his family were all going to his sisters before Christmas Day (that we were hosting) and he wasn’t invited, we decided to just do something ourselves and not bring it up.

We got a phone call whilst they were en route to say that the brother will not come to ours anymore as we have entered tier 4. That’s absolutely fine because we didn’t feel comfortable breaking the law! However, they went to the sister’s house who also was in tier 4 instead...

DP was very angry and upset. He sent a message explaining how he had enough. He no longer feels part of the family.

So that is that. They haven’t attempted communication. They sent an email explaining why they did it (excuses, no apology) and said Happy Birthday to DP. His birthday isn’t for a few days. So that was a bit rude.


Anyway, I suppose we are low contact now. I don’t know if we should return the money? It feels awkward!

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LouiseTrees · 30/12/2020 22:25

God no. Keep the money but don’t bother too much with them all.

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LaurieFairyCake · 30/12/2020 22:37

What was the excuse for going to hers Confused

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44PumpLane · 30/12/2020 22:43

Keep the money, it's the LEAST they can do!!!

And maintain the no contact.... Best of both worlds!!!

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RandomMess · 30/12/2020 22:46

Keep the money the others will get more in the future and your DP won't.

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HappyNewVaccine · 30/12/2020 22:47

These are my family! Disentangle yourselves now before it's too late! Hand the money back and do a small lovely wedding to which they are not invited.

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rookiemere · 30/12/2020 22:48

Hell no - keep the money.

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heatered · 30/12/2020 22:56

Believe me you will feel so much better paying for your own wedding. You mother in law to be won't be able to Lord it over your big day or brag about what she paid for. Own it. She will hate it 🤣

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cherish123 · 30/12/2020 23:00

Frustrating but really need to leave boyfriend and his mum to sort out. I would be annoyed too. Maybe she will give in the end.

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