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AIBU?

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To think that that the lazy cow who is my son's teacher should read IEPs

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Reallytired · 04/10/2007 21:58

My son is in year one and is hard of hearing. Infact he wears hearing aids.

My son's class is taught by two teachers and only one teacher was at parent's evening. Both teachers teach 0.5 of the time table.

Only one of the teachers was there. The teacher who was there did not realise my son was on an IEP. God knows what sort of job she is doing at meeting his needs. She ranted on about how he didn't listen in class. I pointed out that his hearing aids aren't jewelery and she needs to realise that he is likely to miss what is said.

My son has been seen by an occupational theraphist and a report has been posted to the school. The lazy cow had not bothered to read the report.

If teachers choose to have a job share then I think they should put in the extra effort to make it work. (Ie. attend parent's evening) I have had no opportunity to meet the other teacher.

I know several unemployed primary school teachers. If these teachers aren't prepared to do their job properly I think they should be replaced with someone who is a bit more committed.

Last year my son had a fabulous teacher. The difference stands out a mile.

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popsycal · 05/10/2007 21:34

I am starting a different thread

TimmytheDog · 05/10/2007 21:35

My sympathies to RT. This is not acceptable and you should definitly IMO take it further.

I also think that schools should do more to ensure that parents get to speak to ALL thier children's teachers at parents' evenings - if that means paying them overtime then they should do so!!!

My dc's school had a 'meet the teachers' evening recently and all the staff were there including part timers, and very welcome it was too. I personally would not acccpet the 'it is not my day' excuse, I have to go in on my day off sometimes and so should others if we want part time to work and not been seen as 'lack of commitment' as it unfortunatley is now.

Hulababy · 05/10/2007 21:37

Fortunately I had far more understanding employers who realised that PT staff are often PT for a reason. And I don't work for no money!

Blandmum · 05/10/2007 21:37

Overtime does not exist for teachers, Unless you agree to work teaching a class after the end of normal school. There is no overtime payment for meetings, preparation or marking or planning.

We have no contracted maximum hours

Blandmum · 05/10/2007 21:38

Timmythe dog. I stay home on my days off because I need to spend time with my dh who has terminal cancer. Not attending does not equal lack of commitment in every case.

TheWorstMotherInTheWorld · 05/10/2007 21:41

I am deaf and wear hearing aids and at secondary school I had a horrible maths teacher who used to slag me off in front of the whole class because I didn't hear the questions he asked. The thing is he didn't actually seem to know I was deaf!
I took some small comfort in thinking I would show him up one day but I never did as I preferred to keep my deafness 'quiet' as it were. I think you may just have to mention to your DCs teachers that he is deaf, strangely people seem to forget sometimes too.

Blandmum · 05/10/2007 21:43

The same thing happened to a girl in my class when I was in school. In that case it was the physics teacher who was horrid.

He once yelled at her 'Are you deaf'

and she very calmly, with great dignity just said, 'Yes I am'

She looked so good and he looked such an arse (which he was)

TheDuchess · 05/10/2007 21:47

So, do full time teachers get the time back for attending parent evenings? So why are part timers different? Confused...

Blandmum · 05/10/2007 21:50

No, full time teachers don't get the time back from attending meetings.

Neither do they get overtime payment.

Neither do we get days off in leiu for the 5 days of holiday that were taken for training days (INSET days have always been holidays for the children)

popsycal · 05/10/2007 21:50

Duchess: no. BUt they get full time pay to attend the parent's evenings. We get part time pay to attend the same number of parents evenings.

Hulababy · 05/10/2007 21:51

That is where pro rata used to come into it, although I was actually told that is not the case for PTs - they are only obliged to attend on the days they are actually working. It is because they are not contracted to work on those other days - they have no obligation to be available for owrk on non contracted todays. However should ALL parent's evenings occur on their work days I was told they must attend.

Blandmum · 05/10/2007 21:53

I'm in the same position Hula.

I work a 65% time table. And for that I get 65% of the pay that I would if I were full time (fair enough)

Parent teacher meetings are on a thursday. I work thusdays, so I do attend all of them. What I don't do is go to other meetings which are held on Friday, which is tha day I don't work, and don't get paid for.

Blandmum · 05/10/2007 21:54

so although I get paid 65% I do attend 100% of P/T meetings....this year at any rate

ebenezer · 05/10/2007 22:10

YANBU. The teacher and SENCO have a responsibility to know the needs of the children they are teaching. I can see the point that a number of people make about part time teachers and the difficulties surrounding attending meetings etc but as a teacher myself (full time) I can also see the parents' viewpoint. My dc's have occasionally been taught in classes which are split between teachers. It CAN work, but in other cases there are failings - lack of communication and continuity etc. I teach in a secondary school and on a couple of occasions I've dug my heels in and refused to 'share' some of my classes with part time teachers, because I know it's only being timetabled that way to suit the teacher and isn't in the best interests of the children's education.

Millarkie · 05/10/2007 22:24

I've only read the OP, but wanted to say that you have my sympathy. My dc are hearing impaired (although don't wear aids).
My ds was in a reception class with job share teachers and I had the exact situation that you have. First neither teacher read the info on ds's forms that told them about his hearing, then once I realised (because he was getting into trouble etc) and told teacher 1 she didn't tell teacher 2.
Then they eventually wrote him an IEP which said that the TA would talk to him about the 'importance of listening', that I should support him by watching tv with him (!) (and he had little interest in tv since he couldn't follow most of it). They didn't involve the SENCO. Argghhh.

Then in Year 1, we had to start all over again with a new teacher who also had no idea and hadn't read his file or the IEP. He was a very unhappy frustrated lad with lots of behavioural problems and was very behind with reading etc.

We ended up moving house and putting ds into an independent school where he has suddenly developed confidence and is happy, and is also learning things! But I know that this is not a solution that everyone can use

(At least 3 of his new classmates are hearing impaired and have also been through a nightmare in the state system - it is so common and it shouldn't be )

Blandmum · 05/10/2007 22:27

That IEP sounds worse that useless!

So much for SMART targets. What a crock of crap. How on earth could the classroom teachers write an IEP without the SENCO? That is quite dreadful.

and that is not even beging to consider that you should have been involved in agreeing his targets!

ScummyMummy · 05/10/2007 22:37

It really is very depressing that so many children with hearing impairments are apparently still not routinely being adequately supported in mainstream state school classrooms. It really is a failure of attitude and organisation. Good support in this area shouldn't be beyond the scope of the average school.

Millarkie · 05/10/2007 22:42

I know MB - they gave me a copy of the IEP in the last week of term, and I am glad I didn't open the envelope until I got home because I was so upset by it.
It was meant to be a really good school (for the area), and I trusted them. I didn't understand the system until it was too late (SENCO, IEPs, School action etc).

Millarkie · 05/10/2007 22:50

The National Deaf Children's Society have a teacher pack which you can download from their website - I printed a copy out and gave it to ds's reception teachers - they still kept talking to the back of his head (he lip reads).
At one point I almost made him a badge saying 'I lip read..I need to see your face'

(By the way - I completely support part-time teachers and their right not to attend meetings which they are not paid for. )

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Reallytired · 06/10/2007 23:01

A lot of people do not understand that wearing hearing aids does not correct poor hearing. There are some sounds in the English language that my son finds really hard to hear like th, s,z,v even with aids. Also his aids are useless in noisy situations.

He is lucky in that he has good speech, and is good at lipreading. However he finds lipreading for long periods really tiring.

We had a copy of a the teacher's pack from the NDCS already. Clearly his teachers haven't bothered to look at it.

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cat64 · 06/10/2007 23:33

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