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To wonder if something has been lost forever?

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Whatnext2018 · 13/06/2020 14:03

I live in another country which has opened nearly everything back up, people out on the streets again etc but face masks mandatory in restaurants/shops.
Effectively, you can, if you choose
to, live a relatively ‘Normal’ life again (aside from the masks) you can see friends, family, go to the beach, restaurants, shopping.
We took our Dd out this morning for a little bike ride, many many people out, I’m okay with that, we have to continue living..but it’s not the same..obviously it wouldn’t be, but its ‘Really’ not the same. I almost feel like I don’t want to be out (not through fear, just meh) but also don’t want to be stuck indoors.
I just hope this feeling that ‘Something’ is gone is only temporary.
Does anyone else feel like that?

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Macaroni46 · 13/06/2020 15:50

I think normal life will resume but it will take longer for some people than others depending on individual circumstances and how risk averse / blasé you are.
For me, having worked throughout the whole of lockdown without PPE, I'm prepared to accept a level of risk in order to return to normal. But I appreciate that's not the same for everyone.
I think we have to try to be optimistic otherwise it's just too depressing!

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midsomermurderess · 13/06/2020 15:52

I think it will take a while to adjust, to reset psychologically to being out and about as a matter of course. And some habits one had might not return, wandering through the shops on the weekend etc.

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DisorganisedOrganiser · 13/06/2020 15:55

That sounds incredibly hard Boulshired Flowers.

I am concerned that as a society we seem now unwilling to accept any level of risk at all. But life is inherently risky. Unless we want to stay away from it forever which has its own risks.

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SockYarn · 13/06/2020 15:58

Common sense and the ability to evaluate risk have gone completely out of the window. The government and the media have created a nation of people who are frightened to set foot outside.

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Whenwillthisbeover · 13/06/2020 16:01

I agree OP, I went to the garden centre a few weeks ago and it was great for a novelty after so long locked down.

Today I went to a different garden centre, 20 minutes queue to get in, hand gel, mask, wipe troll ids. Then I went to M&S five minute queue to get in, wipe trolly, mask on, hand gel. 25 minute queue when inside for food hall. Then a quick trip to the local shop, mask, hand gel and no queue.

It was An utterly exhausting Afternoon to buy meat (farm shop is in garden centre) take a dress back and a fancy cake, gin fizz and two large bags of crisps.

I was looking forward to the shops opening on Monday, but if every shop is like that people won’t go. Where’s the fun in standing outside all afternoon, where’s the joy if there’s no lovely lunch spots open, who wants to shop when you can’t sit and watch the buskers because they probably won’t be there.

I’m sad, I hope things to go back to normal eventually.

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millymollymoomoo · 13/06/2020 16:03

Agree with sock yarn

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BabyLlamaZen · 13/06/2020 16:04

Everything feels like effort. You don't want to go far, you have to watch out for people. I agree op.

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LaurieFairyCake · 13/06/2020 16:06

I'm not going to bother properly shopping/eating out until there's a vaccine

I'm not going out wearing a mask/gloves

It's too tiring queuing, happy to buy groceries once a week but that's it for me.

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bubbleup · 13/06/2020 16:08

Oh gosh thanks @Devlesko

So enlightening Grin

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Happymum12345 · 13/06/2020 16:08

This too shall pass. It may take a while, but we will get there & we’ll hopefully be grateful when we do.

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theendoftheworldasweknowit · 13/06/2020 16:08

I don't think life will be the same again.

But just as some things will get worse, some things will get better. The key is to focus on what you gain, not what you lose. You'll drive yourself mad otherwise.

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MintyCedric · 13/06/2020 16:08

I have only braved 'the outside' on a very few limited occasions as I am currently caring for vulnerable elderly parents.

It was better than I thought, bit still I am sick to death of hearing about the 'new normal'.

I'd really like my old normal back, thanks.

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Alsohuman · 13/06/2020 16:13

I’m the queen of shopping but I have no desire whatsoever to go to any shops apart from our (sensible) garden centre and the supermarket for a very long time. When they bear a resemblance to pre lockdown shops I’ll reconsider.

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ArtieFufkinPolymerRecords · 13/06/2020 16:23

[quote Eckhart]@Devlesko It's a good job we've got you around to tell us the realities of life. How did you come to know everything?[/quote]
I know. God forbid those of us who are less knowing or less intelligent than @Devlesco start thinking we might be able to enjoy the rest of our lives.

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1forsorrow · 13/06/2020 16:25

If wearing a mask meant everything else went back to normal I'd welcome a mask.

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Echobelly · 13/06/2020 16:27

It will be lost for a bit, but it's blatantly not forever, we won't be on this level of alert for more than two years, worst-case scenario, and I think the majority of people won't be left scared of crowds/contact.

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Bollss · 13/06/2020 16:29

@Devlesko

Nothing will be the same as it was before.
It's all been orchestrated, right down to the rioting and statues. Our history is being rewritten and an alarming rate. the world is spiraling out of control, and I'm opting for a simple life out of all of it.
Anyone who can't see this and thinks the old "normal " will return are either naive or a bit dim.

Oh stop it. Don't be so silly this is not a conspiracy it's a virus ffs.
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wanderings · 13/06/2020 16:29

@SockYarn

Common sense and the ability to evaluate risk have gone completely out of the window. The government and the media have created a nation of people who are frightened to set foot outside.

Exactly this. It's very easy to scare people; it's not so easy to unscare them, which is why I once wondered if the Dominic Cummings saga was a deliberate move to try to make us rebel (although I've given up that idea now). Post 9/11, lots of people swore that they would never fly again, and probably many didn't for a while. The people have been fed a diet of horror stories. I'm going about my business as much as I can with my hands washed but unmasked head held high (where it's allowed), and I want the old normal back; but so many people around me are shaking in terror. If only we could get away from this idea that all risk has to be top-down managed by the nanny state! Once upon a time, people looked both ways before crossing the road: now, they sue the council if they get hurt.

I wish also the government would actually say reassuring things like "things will reopen when it's safe", or "we will tell you when social distancing is no longer needed". It's the way they never ever talk about the ends of these restrictions that induces despair; although I haven't forgotten "we can turn this virus around in twelve weeks". So, not long to go then? Wink Will I be playing netball in less than a fortnight's time? Will pigs fly?

For some people (including me), this regular diet of horror stories by media over the years which turned out to be nothing have made me totally cynical of anything the government or media says. I refused to believe this was a pandemic at all at first; to me it was "yet another cry wolf, to scare us". Even now, I'm still only just about believing it's something Real; figures can easily be manipulated. Also, I did a key worker job where social distancing was quite impossible (being a carer to an extremely tactile and autistic young child), so like someone else on this thread I was accepting a higher risk than many.

I agree that many activities, such as shopping, simply won't be fun any more, because of this risk-averse ideal that we're told is the "new normal"; and every time I hear that, I want to shout loudly "it's a TEMPORARY normal!!!!!!!".

Also, my normal is regular recreational sport, which is probably going to be one of the last things allowed back, and then many people will probably still be too scared to take part, and schools and other clubs will be reluctant to hire out their premises; I'm feeling this loss very keenly.
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Bollss · 13/06/2020 16:29

We'll get there eventually op. I don't want new normal either Flowers

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DisorganisedOrganiser · 13/06/2020 16:31

I too can’t see the point of shopping for pleasure as there is none with the current restrictions. The trouble is, when the restrictions lift, will there be any of the nice shops left to mooch around in after the economic crash.

A toy shop near to me is opening next week. Lots of social media posts from them which is lovely. But they are saying children welcome. No bloody way am I taking my children in. Not because I am scared of a virus but because my youngest would not understand that she couldn’t touch all the toys. We would then end up with a screaming fit when I dragged her out of the shop. Or I would have to buy all the stuff she touched. So we won’t go. And since my child free time is now extremely limited I probably won’t be able to go on my own either. Can’t imagine many families will be rushing back there :(.

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Jaxhog · 13/06/2020 16:33

I want my old life back. I want my kids to have a chance at a real life.

Life will never be exactly the same again. It can't be after a major event like this. It will be different, but just as good. In 5 years time, your kids won't know the difference.

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DisorganisedOrganiser · 13/06/2020 16:35

I hope so Jaxhog. Recreational sport has been crucified in this as wanderings says. I totally understand this has to happen but it does mean that many people’s normal has vanished with no prospect of return any time soon if you do an indoor sport requiring physical contact.

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Whatnext2018 · 13/06/2020 16:36

Yes I hate this ‘New normal’ term! The implication being it’s ‘Forever’

This has just been the oddest time for all of us and it must have affected so many psychologically in one way or another.
I’m feeling it’s taking the total joy out of life or actually wanting to live it for me at the moment but I need to keep positive, what a shitty time for everyone!

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Jaxhog · 13/06/2020 16:40

To everyone who is terrified about the world right now. We're going through a life-changing event. Nothing can change that. But we will prevail and find a new equilibrium. Humans are very resilient. We are also very innovative and will find new ways to live and work and move forward.

I'm as frightened to go out as you are, not least because I'm vulnerable and have to take extra precautions. But if we work together, support each other, we will be able to take baby steps back into the world. It won't be the same, but I bet that in 4 or 6 months' time, we will wonder why we were so afraid.

Pull on your big girl pants and be ready to step forward into the new world.

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Orangeblossom78 · 13/06/2020 16:41

We don't have to wear masks in M&S that is by choice so not sure why there are complaints about that being exhausting - you don't have to

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