To wonder if something has been lost forever?

[Whatnext2018]

I live in another country which has opened nearly everything back up, people out on the streets again etc but face masks mandatory in restaurants/shops.
Effectively, you can, if you choose
to, live a relatively ‘Normal’ life again (aside from the masks) you can see friends, family, go to the beach, restaurants, shopping.
We took our Dd out this morning for a little bike ride, many many people out, I’m okay with that, we have to continue living..but it’s not the same..obviously it wouldn’t be, but its ‘Really’ not the same. I almost feel like I don’t want to be out (not through fear, just meh) but also don’t want to be stuck indoors.
I just hope this feeling that ‘Something’ is gone is only temporary.
Does anyone else feel like that?

[cyclingmad]

They don't have magical knowledge of the future because they are the ones making it happen...the likes of Bill Gates for one.

The epstein saga is enough to show you what is happening out their, the way one man could influence and control his outcome for money years including government officials and even the FBI. That is insight alone to tell you and show you it is real and that is nothing in comparison what the likes of Bill Gates etc can do.

[IcedPurple]

They are telling you to your face and people still want to believe things will be back to normal

Who are this mysterious 'they' and what magical knowledge of the future do they have?

[Mnthrowaway20202]

So some restrictions/abnormalities are to be expected

[Mnthrowaway20202]

I think it’s still too early to say whether life as we knew it has changed forever or not. We’re still in the midst of the pandemic.

[Orangeblossom78]

I understand the PP saying they had been through worse. I have too, survived some life saving surgeries but left with complications and high risk of needing further ones, nothing can be done to cure it and have to live with it...

with time you can accept that and move on, this is different and there is a good possibility of change, maybe it will even become more of a cold type thing some people think, also there are things can be done such as stay healthy, take vitamin D, so for me it is an easier thing to deal with than my other problem.

[Laiste]

cyclingmad - Perhaps I'm just not accepting everything fed to us by the media and see beyond it. Yes I do believe there is some truth to group of people who sits above government and want total control over everyone.

Yes they will put their agendas out their in plain sight because people cannot accept that it would be true so label us conspiracy theorists.

They put messages out there to you telling you what is happening and you refuse to believe.

The new normal is one such message.

Whilst you are so focused on the virus, laws have been changed that take away more freedoms those laws arent temporary they wont expire after the virus they are here to stay.

I see now where you are coming from. You believe in the 'hidden agenda'. What are the laws you believe are going to continue to control us next year, the year after?

[cyclingmad]

@MaxNormal what is your issue? I never said the world would stop.

Perhaps I'm just not accepting everything fed to us by the media and see beyond it. Yes I do believe there is some truth to group of people who sits above government and want total control over everyone.

Yes they will put their agendas out their in plain sight because people cannot accept that it would be true so label us conspiracy theorists.

They put messages out there to you telling you what is happening and you refuse to believe.

The new normal is one such message.

Whilst you are so focused on the virus, laws have been changed that take away more freedoms those laws arent temporary they wont expire after the virus they are here to stay.

Your so desperate for everything to be like it was that you refuse to see it or want to acknowledge it. Thsts okay you can carry on as you are. But other people are waking up to what is happening and starting to question it all.

The censorship has already started people look to China and think that it only happens s there but now youtube, fb are censoring alot of information worldwide. Pushing the left wing propaganda using bots to flood social media at anything that questions or dares to speak out.

[Magicpaintbrush]

I have kept positive until the last few days, but I feel like the fight has gone out of me this week. So much already to deal with before this virus came along and it just feels like things piling on top of other things constantly - today finding out that a much loved family member who is dying in a hospice tested positive for covid today, which means his devoted wife may not be able to be with him when he dies, and it may mean that she has already caught it. It may also mean we can't be there to comfort her and support her when the worst happens and we are her only family. For some people 'getting back to normal' will be tainted forever by tragedy and loss. As and when hugging is allowed again between households I swear to God I will bawl like a baby - just want to be able to hug my parents and my nan, and to see my young nephew and niece who are too young to understand or adhere to any social distancing and who are therefore staying at home away from everybody. And if my DD, who is currently in year 6, gets to actually attend her new secondary school in person and as normally as possible then the relief will be immense - but right now I'm just not sure if it will happen. I do think eventually the virus will come to heel and not present the danger it does right now, but when? So many people are mixing in crowds at the moment, I can see this going on and on for ages. But not forever. Just wish we knew how long, then we could tick off the days with something to head towards.

[Whatnext2018]

*Place.

[Whatnext2018]

This is the thing, if it does in fact, burn itself out 🙏 what will they do about all these new provisions put in plaice? Why have they gone into it with such gusto, especially in England? I do find the whole situation really odd and I’m no conspiracy theorist..!

[Bollss]

Why don't we all just kill ourselves now, then?

[WoollyMollyMonkey]

She’s right though, and we have the delights of a no deal Brexit on the horizon. Doesn’t that fill you with glee?! No? Me neither.

[Bollss]

@Alsohuman

The roaring twenties happened after the Spanish flu and I am focusing on that

Only for the wealthy. The only thing that roared in the 1920s for a vast swathe of the population was unemployment.

Well thanks for pissing in my parade that really helped.

[MaxNormal]

@cyclingmad if you think the world is going to stop permanently for a virus that, whilst nasty for certain age demographics, is hardly Ebola, and is apparently asymptomatic in the vast majority of cases, then I'm afraid you're very wrong.

[lilgreen]

Which country @pinkhousesarebest?

[cyclingmad]

@MaxNormal how do you it will burn itself out, not even the scientists know.

The laws that have changed, the plastic screens the highstreet is more or else done bow with shops going bust, retailers already in administration.

So no there is no going back to normal.

Like I said they keep telling you and pushing that message of new normal. If you refuse to accept that then good luck to you, you will be whinging for a long time.

[Chipsahoy]

I agree with a pp. This is grief and trauma. It's normal, honestly.
I read somewhere that some trauma survivors are not finding this all that hard. As a multi trauma survivor, I agree. I've survived worse. I have lived through and then faced it later, much much worse. So for me, this doesn't feel anxiety inducing. I don't fear that things won't go back to normal.

I completely get why people feel that way, but honestly, it is a natural way to feel. You are grieving, in a sense and that is absolutely OK. Things will be normal again, maybe a new normal, but normal.

[lilgreen]

I mean shops other than supermarkets, pharmacy etc, hardware. I queue because I need food or medicine etc but I’m not queueing to browse, I’ll just shop online. Though I’m not big into retail therapy anyway so can live without.

[bubbleup]

"Don’t think I’ll bother with shops until a vaccine."

You may have entered your very last shop then

[Jaxhog]

I just want normal.

There is no such thing as normal, as in an unchanging normal. The normal of today is different to the normal of ten years ago, and will be different to the normal of 10 years time. Nothing stays the same.

[pinkhousesarebest]

I live in another European country. We have been back at school for three weeks, my husband's train/ tram is back on. We are going on holiday. There are traffic jams again on the way into town and we all saw the dentist this week.
In many ways, the impact of the last three months is quickly melting away. And with it all the hopefulness of change, and a change for the better. Our supermarket car park is littered with masks. Zara had a queue outside on the first day of openeing; people waited for two and a half hours to get in.
We are ahead of the UK, but it will come your way too. And if thre is a second wave, one can only hope that the governments will have used this as a trial run and be a lot more proactive.

[MaxNormal]

They have been consistently pushing the message that this is the new normal there is no going back to normal.

But why won't be go back to normal? At some point there will either be a vaccine, the virus will burn itself out or economically doing anything other than living alongside it will stop being feasible.
That makes no sense whatsoever.

[DisorganisedOrganiser]

Yep cycling .

[YaWeeSkitter]

We have both been going out to work all through the lockdown so things are almost normal for us right now. Probably the only differences that affect us is the pubs not being open as we would often have a quick meal and drink after work to save cooking. And neither of us have been in a big supermarket since March as we have an Aldi and Lidl within walking distance. I will not queue for the opportunity to look round a shop at things I cant touch only to queue again to pay.
I wont be wearing a mask either as I wont be on public transport or in small shops. Its all too little too late anyway and to me is up there with those who wear gloves from the minute they leave the house , constantly touching their face and rubbing their eyes and think that the gloves make them immune to whatever nasties are sticking to the gloves.

[lilgreen]

I went to a garden centre today. First time in as only been in supermarket and chemist during lockdown. It was open air but closed to customers, only collection of adults. I was disappointed so drove to another one only to find a huge snaking queue. I drove home. Don’t think I’ll bother with shops until a vaccine.