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AIBU?

To really dislike this post about 2020?

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worried23xxx · 04/06/2020 12:50

I get people are trying to put a positive spin on things but we never 'needed' any of this. Ideally equality should be brought about without somebody being murdered. I think its a very privileged viewpoint to be able to change the way you 'look' at things and convince yourself there is a positive out of this situation. There has been mass suffering death and police brutality. This was not 'needed' and people should be aware of racism and equality without everything going on.

I can't think of one grand purpose of the corona virus either. I don't think some people can accept that sometimes life is unfair and awful and people suffer without it being part of some orchestrated grand plan that will work out in the end. To me if you post this it shows you are privileged enough to not have been directly affected by these things. You are using this awful year as a way to say you have been able to self reflect and go through 'personal growth'.

To really dislike this post about 2020?

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alwaysanewlife · 04/06/2020 15:47

I am really thrilled by how many people I know are marching right now. I do wish it didn't take a murder to spur it, but it is heartening to see people from all walks of life being really outraged

Personally I am appalled to see mass gatherings that will lead to the infection and death of others and possibly prolong the lockdown and the individual and societal suffering it is causing.

Alsohuman · 04/06/2020 15:47

It says nothing whatsoever about predestination. It postulates that major global events might be a catalyst for change and improvement. Which, hopefully, they will be.

worried23xxx · 04/06/2020 15:49

@alsohuman It does say that they can be a catalyst. But it also speculates 'What if 2020 is the year we have been waiting for'? Its implying that 2020 has been designed in this way to incite change as part of a grand plan. Its not just saying 'Hey 2020 has been awful but atleast some positive change has come from it'

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araiwa · 04/06/2020 15:49

Yes many people were bumbling along through life, many only just.

3 months has fucked it up for too many that were just scraping buy.

Making big changes means that next time people will suffer less

veryvery · 04/06/2020 15:51

I think it's a matter of taste. I like this stuff. Don't get me wrong I've had lots of hard stuff in my life, (cancer, bereavements) but being positive is the way I cope. I can't stand people even really wanting to discuss negative stuff for a prolonged amount of time without any positives to balance it. The way I see it is I take joy where I can and cling onto it. If I can do that it makes the challenges more fleeting. I also am unashamed about this. I think you do others a disservice if you pretend there is no good stuff in your life, when there is, because many people live lives which are very hard and I would rather they get the sympathy because I really don't thrive on it.

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza · 04/06/2020 15:52

Ah yes 2020, the year I became slightly less of a stupid wanker.

Ha!

alwaysanewlife · 04/06/2020 15:53

3 months has fucked it up for too many that were just scraping buy

Yes. Exactly. More people are going to suffer, not fewer.

BiBabbles · 04/06/2020 15:56

I think it's the our and we've in it that annoys me -- I mean, just because they've been woken from an ignorant slumber on these important topics, doesn't meant that many, many people haven't been discussing and fighting for change on these topics for decades now. None of the issues or weaknesses that the media have enjoyed talking about are out of the blue.

It's like Bill Gates calling it a 'Great Corrector' or something like that, or trying to make it sound like a week of some people overbuying toilet paper is the main cause of rainforest deforestation. If it was discussing a personal revelation, fine, but acting like everyone needs to learn these lessons here is BS.

Nancydrawn · 04/06/2020 15:58

alwaysanewlife I take your point entirely. It's worth noting, though, that in the US almost all restrictions have been entirely lifted (with a couple exceptions). In many states, restaurants, barber shops, movie theatres, bars, etc. have been open without serious restriction since 1 May. In some places, businesses are trying to make it illegal for people to wear masks. (These people, it should be said, are very dumb.)

People are living with the uptick in their lives full stop. For many of the protestors, they'd rather take the risk protesting than take the risk by getting a haircut or getting drunk--or just being around others who have.

Frankly, I see better social distancing and more mask wearing in the protests than I do at the grocery store or walking down the sidewalk of any medium-sized city at night in the South.

wildcherries · 04/06/2020 16:00

This patronising shit makes me so angry.

0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h · 04/06/2020 16:04

I don't mind her writing it and I don't mind you not writing it. I'd only have a problem if she couldn't say it or you had to like it, OP.

People saying crazy stuff is part and parcel of living in a free society. It's better than the alternative.

0v9c99f9g9d939d9f9g9h8h · 04/06/2020 16:04

I don't mind you not liking it

Graciebobcat · 04/06/2020 16:06

It is very thoughtless, some people are having a truly shit time.

alwaysanewlife · 04/06/2020 16:07

@nancydrawn It's not like that in the UK where we also have these protests. These mass gatherings are absolutely against our lockdown rules and laws. We still have high infection rates, and we know from past experience before lockdown tightened that infection rates soared in areas that had events attended by thousands of people.

Nancydrawn · 04/06/2020 16:14

Yes, I know (it's why I mentioned 'living in America').

I am worried about what these protests do to the virus. I am also worried about police brutality, institutional racism, a fascist-leaning governmental response. I think we can agree that these are not mutually exclusive worries (eg I assume you might also find the latter worrisome--not accusing you of ignoring/welcoming them!), though the responses to the worries might be different.

veryvery · 04/06/2020 16:14

It is very thoughtless, some people are having a truly shit time.

But I think it would be more thoughtless to pretend you are having a shit time if you are not. if people were to only highlight the bad stuff it would be unbalanced and insincere and actually take attention away from helping the people that really need support if some people are whinging just so they din'rpt appear callous or whatever.

Graciebobcat · 04/06/2020 16:18

Well, at best it's glib and meaningless. The time you are in now is always the most important.

HaveYouSeenMyBones · 04/06/2020 16:26

@LydiaDusbyn

I think some people have had a way too middle class lockdown.

Yep. That about sums it up

Tulipstulips · 04/06/2020 16:47

@juneybean

the only growing i've done in 2020 is growing fatter and more infertile

Oh wow, did I post this while in a fugue state?!

I totally agree, OP. it’s like those bloody memes about it being a great experience for children because they’ll learn to appreciate the rain and smell the flowers or whatever bullshit.

wafflyversatile · 04/06/2020 16:48

I dont have a problem with it. Covid has highlighted a lot of issues that were already there. It would be nice if something good came out of this year. It probably won't. It definitely won't if no one dares think about it or suggest it.

Shit year plus nothing good, no change, same old billionaires and climate disaster and racism.
Or
Shit year plus something good. A change for the better. More equality. More justice. More solidarity. Less racism.

veryvery · 04/06/2020 16:49

LydiaDusbyn
"I think some people have had a way too middle class lockdown."

But if someone middle class, what do you expect? Whingeing about how difficult it is for them when other people have it so much harder would be a lot more annoying.

wafflyversatile · 04/06/2020 17:02

But it also speculates 'What if 2020 is the year we have been waiting for'?

In a way that's right in the sense that sometimes things have to get to a certain level of shit before something is done.

EG when someone is in an abusive relationship but the year the abuser crosses some line so bad eg hospitalised them or beats their child that it is also the year the abuser decides not to take any more and finds the strength to leave. If not for that especially awful event things might never have changed.

Alsohuman · 04/06/2020 17:03

@Graciebobcat

It is very thoughtless, some people are having a truly shit time.

And it totally acknowledges that. Good things can grow out of shit.

worried23xxx · 04/06/2020 17:11

@wafflyversatile But the woman would get sympathy and a huge amount of empathy and support for the abuser crossing the line you wouldn't have people saying to her 'hey its good he took it too far because now you have help' Although it's good that led her to get help she shouldn't be abused in the first place.

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BombyliusMajor · 04/06/2020 17:28

I can't stand this sort of thing. People who need to reframe everything into relentless positivity are draining and infuriating. They go around spouting breathtakingly offensive self-centred bullshit to justify their lack of empathy and disdain for other people.

I have long since culled anyone from my life who has said 'everything happens for a reason' / 'what's for you won't pass you by' etc.

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