To really dislike this post about 2020?

[worried23xxx]

I get people are trying to put a positive spin on things but we never 'needed' any of this. Ideally equality should be brought about without somebody being murdered. I think its a very privileged viewpoint to be able to change the way you 'look' at things and convince yourself there is a positive out of this situation. There has been mass suffering death and police brutality. This was not 'needed' and people should be aware of racism and equality without everything going on.

I can't think of one grand purpose of the corona virus either. I don't think some people can accept that sometimes life is unfair and awful and people suffer without it being part of some orchestrated grand plan that will work out in the end. To me if you post this it shows you are privileged enough to not have been directly affected by these things. You are using this awful year as a way to say you have been able to self reflect and go through 'personal growth'.

[SecretWitch]

YANBU. Virtue signaling at it’s finest.

Nobody knows exactly what is happening in another person’s life.

Hate this woke nonsense

[Thelnebriati]

Many of my neighbours dont own a washing machine, and the launderette had to close for a few weeks. People who are on water meters are especially struggling to keep themselves and their clothes clean. It reopened today and there's a queue down the street.

I can't relate to the 'positive thinking' post in the OP at all.

[backinthebox]

@LydiaDusbyn I think some people have had a way too middle class lockdown. Still baffle by what a middle class lockdown looks like. I’m middle class these days I suppose, and my lockdown has all been baking and painting and lovely walks and people dying and me not being able to visit them before they died and having to watch their funerals on Zoom, but fortunately I’m middle class enough that I have a laptop and a tablet so I can at least watch the funerals while my kids get on with their schoolwork. Is that what you mean?

[Lostmyshityear9]

People in their gardens People in their gardens humourlessly doing silly Tik Tok dances to fit in People baking (with the children helping, lick the "patchula" etc) Waving to granny over Skype Waving to Grandad through the care home window Clapping for the NHS Kneeling for BLM Schooling your kids in your large kitchen Kids drawing rainbows to 10 weeks Virtue signalling at every turn Posting the kind of shite in the OP's post

Why is it not OK to have done these things during lockdown? Surely you don't expect people who are fortunate enough to have been able to manage without too much difficulty to just hide away and pretend they don't exist because others are struggling? Should I make my children's lockdown experience difficult because others are finding it difficult? Should I not clap for the NHS? Or not speak to grandparents via Skype? Would that help people who are struggling feel better in some way? Does our making and displaying a rainbow hurt anyone? Or baking cakes? Are we causing someone pain by working in our kitchen?

What you are suggesting is that we run some kind of race to the bottom. That everyone should be miserable because some people are miserable. Life has gone on, despite the awfulness of the situation around us. I think everyone has been touched by this in some way - whether the death or illness of themselves or a loved one or fear of job loss or having to claim benefits or worries about managing vulnerablilities come the day we have to go back to work..... but how does my not displaying a rainbow, not clapping for the NHS or not working in my kitchen make a difference to the people around me who's lives are tougher than tough right now?

[Khione]

All it has taught me is that there are a lot of sheep around who not only want to follow RULES for the sake of following them. (not talking about social distancing and handwashing as those are clearly needed) AND following on from all the 'Be Kind' memes early in the year now seem to relish being as cruel as they can be to and about anyone who doesn't interpret the guidance exactly the way they believe it should be interpreted.

[Alsohuman]

[quote worried23xxx]@namedchangedtoprotect1 Its trivialising and undermining the suffering people have experienced because of the awful things that have happened recently.[/quote]
Is it? It seems to be acknowledging how awful it is - or does “painful, scary and raw” describe a pleasant experience for some people?

[Covert19]

@Lostmyshityear9 - I think the point is that we are allowed to do those things, but we must not post about them on social media. The only acceptable posts on social media are the cries of pain from victims of social injustice. Everyone else has to shut up so that their voice can be heard. The only experiences that will be validated are those of victimhood. The best course of action for those who are enjoying life is to keep it to yourself.

[GetUpAgain]

So crass. Ah yes 2020, the year I became slightly less of a stupid wanker.

[alwaysanewlife]

@Lostmyshityear9

I don't think anyone is suggesting that you shouldn't do these things. It's just it is very frustrating to constantly hear the media bang on that this is everyone's experience. 'Now that we all have more time....' 'Now that we are appreciating spending more time with our loved ones...'
It's the presentation of this as a universal experience that is galling when it is not your experience.

[YinMnBlue]

Ignore.

Self indulgent twaddle by people who try desperately to have something to say and think they can write with style.

Wrong.

And lacking intellect, clarity and logic to boot.

The kind of idiot who says to parents of children with disabilities crap like "God only sends these children to his angels on earth who he knows can cope".

Faux philosophical twaddle.

[baroqueandblue]

Haven't read past the bottom of p1 but YDNBU OP. I'm so tired of this kind of psychological denial dressed up as 'pithy woo', mostly written and spread by smug over-privileged lame-brains with a desperate need to passively aggressively tell anyone suffering to look for the 'inner gold', ie. pretend the shitty isn't actually cunty but all part of some beneficent universe's grand plan to bring unconditional love down to earth. FUCK. RIGHT. OFF!

2012, anyone?

[alwaysanewlife]

That poem also misses the point that an awful lot of us are actually looking forward to going out and buying stuff, and getting pissed with our mates, and finding someone to shag, and going on holiday again.

[worried23xxx]

@alsohuman I think by saying all of these things were predestined and 'needed' to happen to bring about change you are not considering the effects of what has happened and using suffering as a catalyst for your mindset changing which it shouldn't be.

[LightenUpSummer]

alwaysanewlife that sounds brilliant fun, can I come with you?

[Nancydrawn]

Ugh this is like the kind of people who can't understand a political issue without a personal connection. Like those who only realize that homophobia is wrong when their favorite nephew comes out or that racism is wrong when their daughter marries a person of color. Or one can, you know, have empathy apart from one's own experience.

[squeekums]

So tacky and preachy and frankly aggravating
No one in Aus needed their house to burn down, then not even 3 months later the world shuts down. Recovery put on hold, literally
No one needed how many million to die in a pandemic
No one needed a world economic disaster
No one needs riots in their streets
No one needed the shit 2020 has thrown the world

[araiwa]

So many people completely missing the point. Its not about the small things, its about the big things

Do we really need to spend 40 hours a week in the office
How do.we take care of the elderly
What changes can we make about education child care etc
Healthcare as both a nation and individually
International travel
Universal basic income
Individuals and businesses having no plan b or reserve funds that last for a few months
Electing fucking morons as leaders
Food safety and supply issues
Climate change and pollution
National and global pandemic planning
Taxes both corporate and for super high earners
Racism
Governance
Etc etc etc

This year has shown huge weaknesses and issues with the current set ups. Big changes can be made to make life much better for many people. Its not about baking cakes and sitting in gardens ffs

[Nancydrawn]

On the other hand, living in America, this one genuinely made me laugh in a wry way.

(Btw I am really thrilled by how many people I know are marching right now. I do wish it didn't take a murder to spur it, but it is heartening to see people from all walks of life being really outraged.)

[Alsohuman]

[quote worried23xxx]@alsohuman I think by saying all of these things were predestined and 'needed' to happen to bring about change you are not considering the effects of what has happened and using suffering as a catalyst for your mindset changing which it shouldn't be.[/quote]
It doesn’t say anything’s predestined or needed to make change happen. It’s saying change is needed and perhaps the events of 2020 are so awful that their effects will be a catalyst for change. It doesn’t trivialise or minimise people’s losses or pain, quite the reverse.

[RainMustFall]

What a load of rubbish, complete twaddle.

[worried23xxx]

@arawai But the point is did this many people need to die and suffer or lose their relatives/friends in order for those changes? Was it worth it? No. That is the point.

[Apirateslifeforme]

Ah yes, the faux positive, patronising posts. Yes because what we needed was this dumpster fire of a year to overhaul our lives!!
I'd like to fucking see where I've gone wrong then!!

Were getting through, and were ok, but honestly the way this year has been, has actually been nothing but stress and upset.
Infact, when this passes not only have we lost months of wages, we will also struggle to get back into work, and when we do, were both looking at hefty pay cuts, though considering how my mental health has been affected I'm not sure if I'll be going back to work for a while.
I have agoraphobia, being told by the government to shield has it's own challenges to overcome. I have OCD, and I have lived in fear of something like this pandemic for years, this will be something to overcome.

I just wish people would stop with the virtue signalling. We didnt need the job losses, we didnt need the deaths, we didnt need people to be Ill.

[alwaysanewlife]

@LightenUpSummer Sure!

I think by saying all of these things were predestined and 'needed' to happen to bring about change you are not considering the effects of what has happened and using suffering as a catalyst for your mindset changing which it shouldn't be Well said.

@araiwa to be fair, I think all of those issues were very well identified when covid 19 was still just a thing for bats.

[worried23xxx]

@Alsohuman The way I see it is 2020 was predestined to be this way in order to bring about suffering which will cause change. You can't argue against predestination when it literally says 2020 'is the year we have been waiting for'.

[otterturk]

That post made me vomit.