to expect people shopping at the supermarket without children to NOT park in the mother and baby spaces

[alicet]

Went to Asda this afternoon. As I was parking a lady was also parking next to me in the only other free mother and baby space. She then got out of her car, clearly had no child and walked into the store.

On my way out 2 young lads in a van pulled into the space I had just vacated.

This really p*sses me off. The car park is enormous - its not as though there are not enough spaces and indeed its very rare to have to walk very far anyway. These spaces are here for a reason.

Am I being unreasonable?

i cant park my 4x4 so i use them,esprcially after 8.30 when all children should be in bed

The hard part is when your babes are still in the carrier carseat. You are trying to carry your purse, sometimes baby's bag, and carrier carseat complete with baby.

hifi do you honestly think kids are in bed by 8.30 everynight? or am i missing some sarcasm?

yes

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There's no way I could get the trolley near the boot in the car parks I use. Pretty much all the spaces in the car parks I use are taken, including the ones at the back of one's car.

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a) we don't have a very big car as it is
b) don't want to pay the delivery charge, and don't like the fact that they take it upon themselves to substitute stuff you didn't ask for when stuff that you did ask for isn't available (which seems to happen roughly 50 per cent of the time)

policywonk most sites no have a buton you can click to choose not to accept substitutes

aceept the charge though- for us the charge is equivalent to eptrol costs mroe or less, for toehrs its a fiver or so wasted

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But why should I not just use the P&T spaces instead? I quite like going around the supermarket.

Can't believe I've got into a tangle with Cod about P&T spaces. That's quite a high score in Mumsnet bingo.

And some online stores like Ocado don't charge you for delivery at all if you spend £75. V easy to do.

I don't want to be confined to my house just because I have kids.

I want to take my kids to the supermarket, in the same way that I wanted to take my double buggy on buses when the kids were younger.

Children are not the same as adults. They have specific needs. It follows that their parents and carers also have specific needs.

Society should be able to cater for the needs of children without having some sort of metaphorical aneurism.

This is not to suggest that having children is as demanding as having a disability, or that parents should be afforded the same level of help/consideration as people with disabilities.

But we can all, surely, agree that consideration for society's more vulnerable members is a good thing? Can't we??

Or should everyone who isn't young and able-bodied just stay at home and bolt the doors?

We (or me anyway) weren't saying you shouldn't go to the supermarkets- just pointing things out from your post. I know about isolation and I know how much even a little contact means.

I really don't get this bebate tbh.

If the sign says P&T its P&T if the sign says disabled its disabled. If the sign says blue mongoose from planet zorg, then youre going insane.

Simple.

Oh and sixofone- Ocado- if only! they're not everywhere, sadly.

Sorry peachy, wasn't aimed at anyone in particular.

Didn't know you could opt out of substitutes, so that was useful info.

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On this same topic - went to the gym today, to take baby swimming. Struggling back to P&T space with 4 bags and car seat, noticed a young woman in clicky stilettos and city shorts parking her Ka in the nearest P+T space to the entrance, on her way in to probably spend an hour on the treadmill . Lazy bloody cow.

Why do they do that? An hour at the gym but the walk across the car park is too bloody much! bizarre! used to haev an ex who spent most of the year touring mini shows and doing driving exhibitions that included manoevreing, yet he would aprk in disabled [grrrrr yes I know, i told him- prat- and he is Ex) spaces for the extra space. In a Mini.

PW you can't be worse at aprking than me. used to struggle with my mini's, now I have an Espace ! I actually choose where to shop based on car space width , although i very rarely drive at all these days

Dh parked in a disabled space outside Tesco

[his excuse]

[torrential rain & lightening and empty carpark]

anyway.... he got caught

an old man came and asked "are you disabled"

dh: No!

man: This is a disabled space

DH: I know (puttting shopping away)

man (moving forward): You are not allowed to park etc etc etc etc .... Maude take his number plate...bloody cheek of the youngesters these days...

DH: okay..bye....[thinking is this is really so sad to be so about this]

Different if there were NO spaces but am talking HUGE Tesco so about 40 disabled spaces of which 5 were in use btw......

ffs is this thread still going

Er.... MaccaMacca it wasn't until you just left your message!!!!