Is this a bra or a crop top???

[TheMuminator2]

Can't decide. Looks like a bra but passes for a crop top as it is en vogue.

www.news.com.au/travel/travel-advice/flights/woman-in-crop-top-threatened-to-be-kicked-off-thomas-cook-flight/news-story/6145a7ed3e17ae51ef885618513ee965

Thomas Cook have since apologized to the girl saying they could have handled things better.
Woukd you be offended?

[Yabbers]

Why does everyone keep saying planes are cold? I’m always roasting on planes!

[RhymingRabbit]

Sorry are we comparing a man's dick to a girl's stomach? I think that lots of people have to go away and have a think about why this makes you feel so angry. It affected no one else. She was no showing any "private" areas. She was treated appallingly. Another example of total misogyny - just so sad that it is women doling it out!

[Zebra31]

Some posters need to drop those pearls before they snap. There is some utter misogynistic bolocks on this thread. She’s 21, she can pull it off. She’s not wearing nipple tassels FFS.

[americandream]

As a few posters have said, the pearl clutching on here is hilarious. I would hate to meet some of these people in real life. I bet they're the ones who complain about every last damn thing.......... They must do if they are getting antsy about this pretty young woman in a perfectly nice outfit.

Just picturing the cats-bum mouths on them all.

I can only surmise that they don't like attractive and confident women, and they don't like women to stick up for themselves when they're being treated badly. Says more about them tbh.

[BrokenWing]

It WAS misogynistic behaviour and the airline have admitted it and said sorry to her.

All Ive seen is the airline admitting they could have handled it better. Can you link to where they admitted they were misogynistic or her clothes were acceptable?

[TruffleShuffles]

Does it really matter what it’s called? It’s quite clearly outerwear IMO and I’ve worn similar outfits myself, admittedly not on a plane but I don’t see why wearing it on a plane makes it offensive. I’m guessing the people who are offended by the outfit haven’t left the house in the last two years as I see women wearing outfits like this all the time. I’ve also seen young men wearing those really loose vests that, gasp, may flash nipple on planes and I’ve never seen them being asked to cover up.

[samsamsamsamsamsam]

when some posters say its 'inappropriate' what do they mean? I dont get it. What makes clothes appropriate or not?

[AdamNichol]

Woman wear an outfit goes to airport.
Passes thru check in, passport, security, boarding gate, and plane boarding unchallenged.
When seated, cabin crew tells her she is inappropriately attired. She defends herself - and has other clothes in suitcase in hold - so other officials wade in and turn it into a public humiliation, and take steps to remove her from plane. Other passengers get angry about the delay and wade in to worsen the situation. Her friend then gets a jacket out for her to borrow (which the airline could have done but didn't). Sorry, but I don't see anything that she has done wrong. She was not dressed in a way that would expose any body part that society prefers to have covered for the most part. She was not dressed in any way that contravened a necessary safety requirement.
But, in a wider sense, why do we let businesses dictate how we are attired when we use their services (male or female)? Who is paying who here? As long as clothing is not illegal nor unsafe, why do they get to dictate to us what we do? Would you let a cab driver refuse you service because of what you were wearing? Or be denied entry to a bus or train? Why are planes any different?
I hope she rips them for every penny she can get. I'd want someone's head on a spike.

[americandream]

Exactly @TruffleShuffles

A lot of histrionics about absolutely nothing.

As I said, the airline have said sorry. And quite bloody rightly too. Their behaviour was terrible.

[ooItsAoBeautifulDayNow]

With everything going on in the world who would actually make a complaint about her outfit?

My mum for example might have nudged me and said ooh she must be cold slightly tinged with judgement - shes lovely but perhaps in an age / background thing.

But she and her similar friends would never ever ever take the time to formally complain about someone else's clothes! It's a borderline outfit for people who have a conservative approach but it's hardly nipple tassels and a thong is it?

Bloody hell. I hope those who complained Look at the terrible news from NZ this morning and realise there really are bigger battles to fight in this world than this. Christ almighty.

[ooItsAoBeautifulDayNow]

@DailyMailFuckRightOff Also I LOVE Brop Top 😂😂😂😂😂

[Joebloggswazere]

Saw a man on the train the other day, he was wearing a Frozen T-Shirt, a fluffy cardigan, sunglasses, hat and a pair of briefs. He had scarves around his ankles and flip flops. Ok so I’m not sure what he’d been smoking as he was very happy but nobody said a word. The train staff had a bit of banter with him and he turned heads as he sauntered through the train, but nobody collapsed and died as a result of seeing a man in pants in a public place! Ok if he was waggling his wanger around or that girl was shaking her naked boobs in people’s faces, I could see the problem. They weren’t though.

[SquigglySquaw]

It's a bralette top. See them constantly, especially in summer. How anyone can be offended by seeing someone's shoulders and back baffles me. Absolutely ridiculous.

[Huskylover1]

Her appearance wouldn't bother me.

HOWEVER, why the fuck didn't she just follow the Airlines rules?

Instead of that, she felt that her "right" to wear a bra on board, trumped everyone else's right, to leave on time and arrive at their holiday destination on time. Not just that flight, but all the other flights of the day, that that plane was scheduled for.

That's over 500 people delayed, because Miss Gobby wouldn't follow the rules.

That would annoy me more than the flimsy top.

[diddl]

"Stop trying to cause a fight @diddl"

Not trying to cause a fight, just asking a question.

[flumpybear]

I think the point is that it's not a public place. It's a business environment albeit she's a paying customer they still have rules - If they, or a restaurant, or a school, or a business have a clothes policy and she was found to be outside of their rules of what's acceptable then she's in the wrong

As soon as I saw the story headline it just made me roll my eyes though - another dickhead wanting to cause a shit storm to make a point

Honestly, grow up

[fairybeagle]

Its a bra. Not appropriate for travelling. Fine for the beach/clubbing etc as pp have said

[nokidshere]

Well I personally wouldn't travel in a top that looks like a bra but nor I wouldn't complain about other people doing so. As far as I am aware there is no dress codes on flights?

[BrokenWing]

Have a think, why are certain clothes suitable for the workplace and others aren't? If you had a younger workforce force who came into work in casual revealing clothes (male and female) do you think they would act and be perceived as less professional than if they came in appropriate smart clothes? Of course they would.

Because clothing, like it or not, influences how people are perceived and how they behave.

Airlines, especially to holiday destinations, want to influence as much as they can safe behaviour and a pleasant journey for ALL their customers and part of the way they do that is by having a dress standard onboard so people behave differently. The don't want to risk a party atmosphere onboard as there are safety implications.

[TapasForTwo]

"Why does everyone keep saying planes are cold? I’m always roasting on planes!"

Because the aircon is always too cold on planes that I fly on. I always have to wear a jumper/cardigan on planes. The last few flights I have been on have been with Jet2, Tui and Virgin Atlantic.

[Skyejuly]

It's a top. This whole thing is ridiculous. I cant believe what I am reading.

[badlydrawnperson]

Do we know who actually decided she wasn't dressed properly and why?
It's not clear to me.
I would have thought she was dressed in a way I'd imagine possible for a flight to sunshine holiday destination.
It's not how I'd choose to dress but it's not for me to define other people's clothing, beyond safety and very obvious offence.

[AdamNichol]

HOWEVER, why the fuck didn't she just follow the Airlines rules?
Why did no one tell her she had fallen below those rules until she was already in her seat? And why the fuck do they get to set rules on what you can wear (beyond the parameters of existing law)

I think the point is that it's not a public place. It's a business environment albeit she's a paying customer they still have rules - If they, or a restaurant, or a school, or a business have a clothes policy and she was found to be outside of their rules of what's acceptable then she's in the wrong
Airplanes are not business environments, they are transportation devices like busses and trains - paid for by individual customers who are aware they have to share the journey experience with other members of the public. They're already in enough trouble over their attire restrictions for staff. They can shove their policy, they have no right to dictate that sort of thing to customers. And it's not a case of use a rival instead, because there are limited alternatives for the route you may require. Nor would a rival position make the policy ok - just as it wouldn't if they demanded male pilots only, or no black passengers, or women to fly in Burkas.
Schools is not really an applicable analogy - there are no paying customers there, just staff and children (who are often uniformed for safeguarding, amongst other things). Yes, restaurants do the same, but why do we allow this either? I don't get thrown out of tesco for wearing yoga kit, so why off a plane?

[SnowyAlpsandPeaks]

I’m just jealous I can’t get away with wearing things like that anymore- my boobs would be hanging out of the bottom of it! (Thanks kids!!)

[hackmum]

Look. If the airline had a dress code they had numerous opportunities to inform people of it before they got on the flight. They didn't do so. It just seems like bullying to me.

Context is everything with clothes, isn't it? What's fine for the beach isn't fine for the office. To my mind a plane carrying people on their way to a beach holiday is more like the former than the latter. It's just another example of policing women's clothing - women are always either overdressed or underdressed, too sexy or too frumpy. You can't win.

And the way that ghastly woman on the tv manhandled her is pretty horrible. You don't have the right to go round touching other people's bodies like that.