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Or is school out of order

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mazu · 02/12/2018 08:04

Dd8 (yr3) while sat at the table spied a box of Nestlé cereal on the table and announced she would not be touching any of it (it wasn't hers and wasn't offered to her). She then goes of to say she would not be buying anything from them as they are horrible people and goes on full blown attack on the brand and palm oil and orangutans. I'm sat there stunned at are very strong beliefs and thought perhaps she's seen an advert on YouTube kids about it.
On the contrary it turns out her at school they were taught about the evil that Nestlé is and that they were told to write letters to the president Mr Schneider to tell him they hate nestle because they damage forests and kill orangutans.

She then spent the entire weekend feeling guilty anytime she has eaten anything with palm oil chocolate, Nutella , bread, crisps I mean everything! She pretty much stopped eating by last night.

While I am up for teaching children about environmental and ethical responsibility at a young age AIBU to feel the school went too far? I made me feel quite angry that they could pretty much teach my child the politics that could shape her entire life and little ones are quite vulnerable and without a balanced view of the facts I do not want this to be the way my child is taught about issues. I want her to read and form her own opinions not spew garbage based on someone else's agenda. Bear in mind the issue here is now the Nestlé as I'm fully aware of the atrocities they have committed in the past.

OP posts:
Lizzie48 · 05/12/2018 09:45

He knows all about deforestation etc. - he doesn't write letters to organisations saying, 'I hate you because...' He is much better taught.

I don't think anyone has suggested writing letters saying that. Confused

Clavinova · 05/12/2018 10:01

Have you seen the letters they wrote then? You know what they say

You obviously didn't read the opening thread.

SoyDora · 05/12/2018 10:01

Of course I did. Do you think the letters actually just said ‘we hate you and your company’?

Clavinova · 05/12/2018 10:03

Quote;
they were told to write letters to the president Mr Schneider to tell him they hate nestle because

SoyDora · 05/12/2018 10:06

Yes, I saw that. However the OP hasn’t seen the letters. I think it’s doubtful that the children were actually told to write ‘I hate you because...’ and it’s more likely that it was an exercise in persuasive writing and the wording above is artistic licence either on behalf of the OP’s child or the OP herself.

Clavinova · 05/12/2018 10:14

Do you think the letters actually just said ‘we hate you and your company

Quite likely from an 8 year old in the state sector - yes.

SoyDora · 05/12/2018 10:16

Quite likely from an 8 year old in the state sector - yes

Hmm
PadawanCat · 05/12/2018 10:22

Quite likely from an 8 year old in the state sector - yes.
Well aren’t you little miss judgeypants.
My eight-year-old state-school-educated child is hugely articulate. As are many of his classmates. We’ve had work home where we’ve presumed the teacher or TA had written the piece as a starter. His persuasive writing is phenomenal - he could produce a piece arguing that the Queen is a droid, or rocks are sentient, and you’d believe him.
Children should be praised and encouraged, not written off as you would do.

Willow2017 · 05/12/2018 12:07

Quite likely from an 8 year old in the state sector - yes

Oh do get off your high horse.
When my kids were 8 their classroom was turned into a rain forest with decorations they made and they discussed many aspects of how a rain forest works and what lives there and how we are affecting it.
A lot more educational than talking about school uniform!

If you think ops child started the letter by saying "I hate you because" maybe you.need to go to your kids anazing school and brush up on your letter writing?
Op doesnt know what the letter said exactly. She is saying that for shock effect just as you are.

Writing a letter to a company to question thier policies needs to be tempered with clear questions, valid points and objectives. Otherwise it would not be read. Anyone with an ounce of sense knows that.

Clavinova · 05/12/2018 12:21

A lot more educational than talking about school uniform

Perhaps the schools should stick to the boring topics for persuasive writing. It's all very well 'arguing that the Queen is a droid' but almost 40% of boys cannot achieve a grade 4 in English Language 8 years later.

Willow2017
Everyone makes spelling mistakes but you've spelt 'their' incorrectly in both your posts to me.

Miscible · 05/12/2018 16:35

Clavinova, if you think that state sector education is that poor, how do you account for children in the state sector who achieve the highest possible grades in GCSE and A levels?

MaisyPops · 05/12/2018 16:38

Miscible
They won't. Every school thread they come on is usually to have a go at state education, argue about the pay and conditions of teachers in the state system and generally point out why the whole thing so awful in every way.

Knittink · 05/12/2018 16:41

Clavinova - do you think a boring topic makes children write better? Confused As a teacher, I find quite the opposite is true.

SnorkFavour · 06/12/2018 11:08

OP, I agree completely. Many people believe global warming is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the public - it's not for the school to tell her "facts" that have proof for either side of the argument.

I hate the way they put evolution out as proven fact, when there hasn't been a single shred of evidence found ever.

It's not for schools to teach non-facts.

SnorkFavour · 06/12/2018 11:15

@MaisyPops

I mean it could be a giant left wing conspiracy where only lefties teach

It is.

or what's probably more likely is there's a range of complex factors meaning that in the current political climate young professional floating voters felt more aligned to a centre or centre left party at the time of the survey

Yes, because they've been lefty groomed all the way through.

SoyDora · 06/12/2018 11:27

It's not for schools to teach non-facts

Yes, that’s why is pisses me off when they tell my children than God created the earth, and Jesus is the son of God, etc etc. My reception age daughter came home from her (non faith) school the other day telling me that the birth of Jesus Christ was the most important thing that had ever happened Hmm.

MaisyPops · 06/12/2018 15:45

I love it. The big leftie conspiracy grooming perfectly intelligent people into being left wing. Grin

As someone who would be best described as a centrist to centre left floating voter, it always makes me laugh hearing hysterical claims of ideological conspiracy. I've always been centre ground and floated either way but since career changing to teaching have tended to be more centre left, not out of some conspiracy but because it's forced me to see the consequences of some austerity policies that haven't affected me (as a professional and homeowner) and naturally I take an interest in educational policy. I have an ideological opposition to academies, but think they're not always the boogieman that others make out. But I've had my mind controlled I tell you. Mind control!

Firsttimer1234 · 06/12/2018 16:06

I've taught a similar unit in Year 3 but with a different brand. In 7 years of teaching I got the best work I have ever had from it. I'm pretty certain the learning object wasn't to sent a letter of hate so maybe you/your LO has got that a bit muddled up.

Firsttimer1234 · 06/12/2018 16:08

And the letters won't have been sent. The reason the address will have been put on is because part of the Ks2 curriculum is to correctly set out a formal and Informal letter

cariadlet · 06/12/2018 21:21

*Many people believe global warming is the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the public - it's not for the school to tell her "facts" that have proof for either side of the argument.

I hate the way they put evolution out as proven fact, when there hasn't been a single shred of evidence found ever.*

If you seriously doubt that global warming and evolution are proven scientific theories then I worry for you. There might be some debate about the finer details but not about the overall ideas. There is a huge amount of evidence for both and there are plenty of popular science books, podcasts and websites which make the evidence accessible and understandable to the layman with an interest in science.

Willow2017 · 06/12/2018 23:29

Non-facts?
Wtf?
The rain forests are burning. Fact.
Animsls are slaughtered or burned to death and babies orphaned. Fact.
Peoples homes are being destroyed or poluted. Fact.

How can you think otherwise? Teaching children facts is kind of important.

The subject is nothing at all like religion. Thats based on faith. Burning rainforests the size of New Zealand is pretty easy to spot with your own eyes.

PickAChew · 06/12/2018 23:36

The appropriate response, as a parent, would be to say "how about we do a bit if homework and make some choices we can be happier with, next time we go shopping, eh?"

Either she will get on board and choose products that don't clash with her new found conscience, or she'll decide, like you, that it's too much like hard work and probably exaggerated, anyhow.

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