wanting the loo roll hung my way?

[kinki]

Serious debate needed.

My dh and ds want to hang the loo roll back to front, after years of happily having it the 'proper way'. They are putting up a strong case and I'm feeling out-numbered.

We have always had it so the paper drapes down the front of the roll. Now they want it to fall down at the back (wallside).

Now call me unreasonable, but being the only laydee of the hise, I think I should have the final say of how it should be, since I dispense from it at every visit. Plus I think it looks more aesthetically pleasing, and is easier to reach. Not forgetting the fact I'm the one who usually changes it, and buys it in the first place.

So, how does everyone else hang their loo paper. And am I really being so unreasonable wanting the loo roll hung my way? (I know life's too short, but humour me anyway.)

lizziemun, although I don't wawnt to consort with the enemy, I always find if you wave it manically in the air you dislodge the first sheet (unfortunately as well as the following 3 metres)

suedonim i wondered this, apparently a quick shake gets it all off or so im told

I want to know exactly what the strong argument is that they are putting up!

We aren't refined enough in our house to even have a loo roll holder, so the hanging issue isn't an, erm, issue, as the rolls are dumped unceremoniously on top of the cistern

But if they were, it would be paper at the back, sorry!

I remember reading/ hearing something ages ago about how if you hang the paper one way, you actually use LESS than if you hang it the other way It might have been Esther Rantzen off That's Life or something, which is going back a bit now, I mean they never had Andrex Quilted back in those days did they, it was all tracing paper bog roll

Lizzie, it's simple. Get a puppy, preferably a yellow labrador. Guaranteed willing and able to find the end of ANY loo roll at ANY time of night

I prefer the paper to hang down the back.

So much tidier, so much neater, so much less likely to be dragged away by passing labrador puppies.

But dh prefers it to the front, so over the years I have been ground down by it.

It's odd, though, how he can never manage to find the inclination or the energy to replace the roll when he finishes the old one off, but always manages to change it round if I drape it to the back

Found this on the net (have WAY too much time on my hands......:

The Case for 'Under'

Evidently bourgeois lavatorial etiquette vis- à -vis sanitary stationery demands that a toilet roll is hung 'under', ie with the flap 'wallside', if one does not wish to betray one's lower-class roots. In a working-class home the paper hangs into the room, although which room is not always clear... the dining-room perchance?

And since blue-bloods most certainly would not sully their hands hanging their own toilet rolls, if indeed they'd stoop to wipe their own precious derri è res at all, this assertion would not be inconsistent with the fact that cat-owners, a great many of whom are most assuredly middle-class, adopt the under-hang arrangement 'because cats are inclined to stand on the bog-seat and scratch, as cats do, at the roll. If the paper goes over the top, said bog-roll is soon in a pile on the floor.' Cats, it seems, cannot have the same fun with a back-roller.

Practically though, there are some sound reasons for under-rolling. In the first instance, taking advantage of the friction generated between the wall and the roll, pulling off the next sheet from the back-side should be marginally easier. Moreover, under-hanging is shown to afford the opportunity to take the paper with one hand, when, for example, changing a baby's nappy on the bathroom floor. This manoeuvre is undertaken by grasping the loose end in hand, the back of which is placed firmly against the roll to stop the roll from turning, whence the next sheet of paper can be torn off.

The Case for 'Over'

The key reason cited for over-hangers, ie those who choose to hang the roll with the flap into the room, is hygiene-based. By 'overing', one ends up touching, with the wiping hand, fewer squares of paper that the next person will have to use, which does seem somehow more hygienic, if not entirely nauseating. Reaching behind or under the roll is evidently more likely to bring the wiping hand into contact with the roll. Yuk.

Moreover, consider the tropical rain-forest condensation that can gather on bathroom walls. A back-hung roll's flap tends to adhere to the wall - the major disadvantage of which is that the wetting destroys the integrity of the paper, typically failing catastrophically at the moment of truth.

In the end, however, the bottom line is that the most important thing is that the paper is there when you need it.

Hear hear!

Meant to say, this is what the BBC has to say on the subject so must be right!

Ummm, www, I see your point about the labrador puppy. Fortunately I haven't got one, but yes, my 2yo has been known to do a little sprint around the house holding the end. Do you really think hanging it the other way could be a useful deterrent for this wayward tearaway?

Apologies, speccy, twas a feeble attempt at being funny. You are right, I am quite common, and have moments of occasional grandeur or do I mean delusionment?

The arguements for hanging it at the back, so say dh and ds are that they both want it that way, they think it looks better, and in ds's best mates house it's hung that way. And since they are more economical with it, they should get the final word.

Lizzie, I really don't think you'd have that problem if you hung it down the front - much easier to grab hold of.

Kinki - who changes the loo roll?

Working on the assumption that it's always you (this has always been my experience, anyway) then hang it whichever way you please. Unless they're anal about it like my dh, they won't be bothered to change it round.

It might encourage them to replace the roll themselves a little more often, which can only be a good thing - no matter which way round it hangs!

sixofone. So I'm lower class then (told you I was common speccy). But I am more hygenic than them what are in a higher class to me.

me www. But pesky ds changes it the other way round. Neither are that good a putting it there in the first place though. Don't blame them being anal in the loo. Rather it was in that room than anywhere else. As long as they wipe it after (from the correctly hung roll).

kinki

I still have this probelm if by some strange event and dh does manage to change the empty loo roll i can't be bothered to change around and he still does it.

I think you may have to resort to throwing a temper tantrum every time they change it over, and hope they get so fed up with you throwing paddies that they let you get your own way

Speccy, Maybe my friend is a secret Amish person. Their quilts always have a deliberate mistake because they believe God is the only one who can make anything perfect. Therefore the back-to-front loo roll is my friend's nod to that idea.

Have just asked dh and he always uses loo roll. And he too says front is right! He's actually the loo roll installer at home (mind you, we only have one holder - it's the radiator for the other loos). Here in Nigeria we have holders in all five(!) bathrooms and it's mostly our steward who replaces them, teeheehee.

LOl at this thread and the 'strong argumetns put forward!!!! I have to admit to being a serail adjuster - if I go into someone elses loo I just have to change it if it is hanging to the wall as I am a hardliner for hanging to the front. ( And i knw DH changes it sometimes jus to wind me up )

I have to have it hung under. I don't know why, it just bugs me if it's put the wrong way. I don't say anything - like you say, life's too short. I just change it round.

I do that if I use the loo in other peoples houses too. (Do you think that's rude of me? )

I would advise not saying anything, just swap it round every time you use it. They'll not be bothered to swop it back!

wwb (sorry for previous dyslexia ) I read your post as 'fed up with you throwing piddles'. Maybe going a tad too far I thought.

So here's another discussion then. The gentlemen of this house do a little shake at the end of their tiddles. Am I know to discover that not only do they want to upset the equilibrium of the toilet roll holder, but they are the only ones NOT to use paper after going? (This reminds me about that discussion about men sitting for peepees).

Good grief, don't any of you have tiled loos. Much more hygienic than paper. Anyway I like to see it at the front, but when the roll is new DS tends to pull of loads. At the back is less loo roll for my house anyway.

omg, you are all being unreasonable just for posting on this thread.

but while we're at it, isn';t the correct way to have a vertical roll on top of the loo, with an empty cardboard roll on the holder thingy?

Lizzie, maybe you can get little weights to ensure the right amount of paper hangs down.

Oh GOD WHY do men do that? I cannot count the number of times I have sat down and almost slid into the loo because it's wet and slippy!! And it is like giving your brolly a shake - the drips go everywhere.