Peter Tatchell excusing sex with kids

[Happypie]

Peter Tatchell runs the Peter Tatchell Foundation that is currently seeking charitable status. He is also regularly consulted on LGBT issues.

I include a picture of a letter he wrote to the Guardian in the 90s about sex with children. It is deeply disgusting. A man who has these views about sex with kids should not be allowed to run anything.

[MephistophelesApprentice]

Heh... I love watching idols burn.

There are no heroes, just monsters temporarily on your side.

[PtangyangkipperbangOi]

I am surprised more people did not know about this, it has been common knowledge for ages. And it is horrifying. There is so much in the public forum that people do not realise ....like MI5 having links to the horrendous child abuse that went on for years at Dolphin square and involved a huge Westminster paedophile ring.

Anyway. Every 8-10 years this thing with Peter raises its ugly head and then it dies down again and he just carries on carrying on. Nothing changes as his men's network does not care. Like nobody cared about Jimmy Saville.....he was banned from Children in need by Sir Roger Jones as they all knew he was a filthy perv and nobody gave a shit. Because they are MEN and are unharmed by the fallout that these monsters leave behind them as it does not affect them in any way at all.

[batmanwoman]

I thought they investigated the dolphin square thing and nothing came of it?

[doubleshotespresso]

batmanwoman not a bit of it. it had been going on for years unchallenged but very much known about. Key figures to the case conveniently passed away.... the full horror was never fully uncovered sufficiently.

PtangyangkipperbangOi is correct. Pt appears to be made of teflon, despite the fact his worrying activities and "friends" have been common knowledge for decades.

[BirdseyesFrozen]

Dolphin Square /Operation Midland collapsed. No one was charged. Everyone was dead except for one person. " Nick" the main witness was discredited. Murky stuff.

[PtangyangkipperbangOi]

the Dolphin square case DID collapse, but that doesn't mean it did not happen. Theresa May herself said that the home office could very well have been complicit in a cover up and if an MP says THAT then you know it was a shot load worse then we ever even knew. Something like 144 files were likely intentionally lost? that is disgusting. But again, people just carry on smear free.

Jimmy Saville wrote in his own book that he did things to children that were beyond the pale.
He said: “A high-ranking lady police officer came in one night and showed me a picture of an attractive girl who had run away from a remand home.

• “‘Ah,’ says I all serious, ‘if she comes in I’ll bring her back tomorrow but I’ll keep her all night first as my reward’.” Savile describes how the girl came to one of his dances that evening and stayed the night with him before he handed her over.
  
  He added: “The officeress was dissuaded from bringing charges against me by her colleagues for it was well known that were I to go, I would probably take half the station with me.”
  
  On another occasion, he asked organisers of a charity event to choose a group of young girls to spend the night camping with him after the disco." *
  
  People knew. People knew he was going into the morgues and interfering with bodies.
  
  AND HE WAS ALLOWED.
  
  Because he was a man.

[BirdseyesFrozen]

Sorry, not saying at all that Dolphin Square did not happen.
My view is that it very much did. I can't prove it, though.
John Mann MP gave police a dossier about Dolphin Square back in the 1980's.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2837175/MP-told-police-VIP-paedophile-ring-s-parties-26-years-Labour-s-John-Mann-claims-handed-evidence-abuse-Scotland-Yard-investigation-shelved.html

That's John Mann MP, whose family were not so long ago, subjected to anti-semitic abuse, rape threats, and violence by certain supporters of the Labour Party.

[havingabadhairday]

@KristinaM
[You might think that being sexually abused by men since he was 12 was one of Lee’s problems but you would be wrong. The problem, according to Peter, is the age of consent ]

Depending in the age of the 'boys' he might have been being abused longer than that.

I feel sick now.

[MrsMaisel]

Honestly I do think that as a society we have failed miserably at weeding out the vicious twisted bastards preying on children. So much more should be done. Where are the campaigns to introduce mandatory life sentences and chemical castration for child sex abusers?

[doubleshotespresso]

Does anybody have a link confirming the Children in need sponsorship he allegedly receives please?

[Clawdy]

"Because he was a man." No, because he was the famous, untouchable Savile, with a huge fan base, and knew many influential people.

[PtangyangkipperbangOi]

@clawdy don't be bloody stupid. If you use that analogy then all cases of abuse by a family friend or relative must have been reported and dealt with as they aren't typically even a bit famous. Abusers get away with it as most of them are male and we live in a patriarchal society where women and children come second to a mans sexual needs.

And before somebody NAMALTs me, I know. But if one in 5 women has been sexually assaulted do you really think that was done by the same person? Or does it make you sick to realise that actually, 20% of the male population are on some sort of sex offenders scale. And consider the % of rapes reported Vs the conviction rate. That is a lot of rapists running around as well

[Lizzie48]

Yes, it's a patriarchal society, @PtangyangkipperbangOi but this is a case of boys being abused, not girls. I think boys are as likely to suffer SA as girls, although I don't know the statistics?

This isn't a male/female issue, it's about the power, whether politicians or celebrities, or within the home. However you look at it, there is an imbalance of power between an adult and a child. And when it's a powerful person, whether it's Saville, Tatchell or a politician in Parliament (or for that matter a parent or other trusted adult), the child will feel powerless. That's something I still struggle with now, I never expect to be taken seriously and I suspect it's why I've ended up with a stutter.

[BirdseyesFrozen]

Well spoken Lizzie.

[Clawdy]

Ptang you said Savile went into morgues and interfered with dead bodies, and was allowed to do so simply because he was a man. So I am " bloody stupid" apparently to think that his fame and iconic status had rather more to do with his getting away with it, than his gender did. Thanks.

[NotaRealLawyer]

doubleshotesspresso

Does anybody have a link confirming the Children in need sponsorship he allegedly receives please?

Ask Children In Need or Peter Tatchell.
Sponsors are not listed on his Foundation site.
The company accounts at Companies House are very brief, and do not list sponsors.

Some of the organisations that he is a sponsor/patron/trustee of may have received grants from Children In Need.

[doubleshotespresso]

NotARealLawyer yes thanks I had done a bit of research and found only the educate and celebrate page featuring Children in Need. I will look further but thank-you.

[NotaRealLawyer]

doubleshotespresso
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/psvxkB6QDMK63pgHmP5RJF/who-you-help
Can't see anything there. Faster to email them directly perhaps?
My intuition is that there is no direct payment. Just a hunch nothing else.
But if it is all so kosher, why would he not apply, given his claim of genuine good deeds with the Youth?

[NotaRealLawyer]

Or a Freedom of Information Request? To the BBC.
www.bbc.co.uk/foi/requesting-information

[arranfan]

I can't open the spreadsheet at this link but it lists the projects that CiN funded at the end of 2015 (so, not bang up to date):

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5VM9FRDjhbSRyl8VLyJC8T/bbc-children-in-need-360-giving

[LikeDust]

I can't remember the stats but I believe girls suffer CSA at a much higher rate than boys.

[LikeDust]

if one in 5 women has been sexually assaulted do you really think that was done by the same person? Or does it make you sick to realise that actually, 20% of the male population are on some sort of sex offenders scale.

I reckon that abusers probably assault about 4 on average - since it is unlikely to be a one-off. I reckon it would be more like 1 in 20 blokes.

[IfNotNowThenWooOoOoo]

It's also very possible that boys don't disclose it though. Boys can be just as vulnerable.

This is so true:
However you look at it, there is an imbalance of power between an adult and a child
Which is why I just don't beleive that someone as intelligent as Peter Tatchell doesn't have very dark motives for the things he has said. There is no "intergenerational sex" involving children, there's a person with power exploiting a person with none.
Thank you Lizzie for talking about your experience you are very brave.

[LikeDust]

Most girls don't disclose it. All kids are vulnerable.

[bellabasset]

My dh and I felt this was disgusting and inexplicable when we first read this.