Theresa May needs to resign!

[autumnbreeze25]

I have supported Theresa May throughout the last few years, and I voted for her in the elections confident she could be trusted. I considered her to be a practical, capable and considered leader at the helm for what was always going to the most challenging situation of our times.

However this trust has been replaced with a pressing need for her to either resign immediately or to be pushed out now.

TM in the last 24 hours has shown that she has failed miserably and she needs to go.

Where did the blazing leader that was going to fight to the end? She limped into the meeting and limped out conceding immediately! My eight year old could do a better job!

The EU were never ever going to give the UK any kind of 'deal'. This was never their intention. I am absolutely amazed anyone is even talking about a deal anymore. This idea is totally dead in the water. There is no deal, there was never going to be, and it is now time for a change in the leadership with full preparation to leave without a deal or switch to the Canada option. Even TM doesn't want to talk about the Chequers deal anymore.

We should walk away now or be forever in a limbo of a vassal state.

There is no way we should agree to any kind of extension that means we will still be paying enormous bills to the EU but will have no influence whatsoever over the decisions made. This is utterly unacceptable and leaves us in a very dangerous situation. How TM has managed to back herself into a corner of this nature is just beyond me, she has let the entire country down.

The traitor that is Oliver Robbins should do the decent thing and leave, this is all down to his 'advice' he has screwed her over properly for sure as he was really working for the other side all along (he can pick up his payment and pension from the EU on his way out)

I am incredulous that Theresa May is still in post, and I hope by the end of the week she will be replaced by someone capable of steering the country out of this unholy mess.

[autumnbreeze25]

The definition of a traitor:

a person who betrays someone or something, such as a friend, cause, or principle

Those that take the side of the EU over their own country in any circumstances really are committing treason of the first order. Even if you voted remain you have a duty to the support the best outcome for the country.

[borntobequiet]

ASAP please, I have a tenner on a GE before the year’s end and it’s running a bit tight.

[time4chocolate]

Don't embarrass yourself by calling me a 'bot' when I am simply saying what millions of other people are saying and thinking

this

Regular cries on MN of ‘where are the Leavers’, ‘are they hiding’ ‘why aren’t they posting’ etc etc. A Leaver starts a thread and is almost immediately called out as a bot - it’s pathetic.

[InspectorIkmen]

Even if you voted remain you have a duty to the support the best outcome for the country


This is good. Keep this up. Really - because you're just proving beyond all reasonable doubt that you absolutely haven't got a freaking clue what you're talking about!

[ScrommidgeClaryAndSpunt]

Darren Grimes, is that you?

[Ellisandra]

Still waiting for you to explain why you knew better than me that Brexit wasn’t the reason I could lose my job.

Oh wait - a Brexit fan who doesn’t fucking listen to facts? Silly me

Maybe if I right it in big letters, maybe the size of a bus advert, you’d get it?

[longwayoff]

Oh do stop OP, you're making my ribs ache.

[borntobequiet]

There’s no such thing as treason of the first order. Crimes against the state are known as high treason.
I’d say telling lies and putting them on a bus to cause constitutional chaos and ruin the economy in order to further one’s own career were pretty treasonous.

[BarbarianMum]

TM didnt take the job, she was given it. And no-one else seems to want it, even those who think she's messing it up and that getting a good deal should be easy. Strange that.

[Motheroffourdragons]

Nobody is going to challenge her because the position of pm is a poisoned chalice at the moment. They’ll wait till she has made as much of a mess as possible then swoop in and save us.
Or make things worse, if that is even possible.

OP - what do you think Canada plus plus means?

And as somebody else asked, what about the good Friday agreement?

[TheReturnoftheSmartArse]

Exactly who do you think should/would take over? Poisoned chalice, that job.

[autumnbreeze25]

If the Canada agreement was in place I would suspect a technical solution could be in place to solve the border issue.
It would be a matter for the EU if they decided to put a hard border in place, certainly the UK would never do this, and other peace treaties have been made, so another treaty could be made to protect the Good Friday agreement.

[TheReturnoftheSmartArse]

Soryr, just repeated what Motheroffourdragons said. Must RFT ... don't know how I missed the last page!

[InspectorIkmen]

I’d say telling lies and putting them on a bus to cause constitutional chaos and ruin the economy in order to further one’s own career were pretty treasonous

And all the while applying for citizenship of an EU nation and/or squirrelling all your money into tax havens, EU investment plans and/or taking a particular stance even though you don't believe in it purely to garner support and further your wretched career and/or....I could go on but I've made today my Don't Fight With Halfwits On The Internet Day.

[autumnbreeze25]

It is not a poisoned chalice for a PM that actually believes in Brexit.

I am a leaver, I am proud to be a leaver and all the insults in the world won't change the fact that the vote was to leave, and we need to do just that.

[ShatnersWig]

Even if you voted remain you have a duty to the support the best outcome for the country

Northern Ireland is part of the country. And the answer you just gave shows you have no idea what you are talking about. I'm happy to debate Brexit sensibly with Leavers and Remainers. But the important word there is sensibly.

[Clandestino]

@autumnbreeze25 - are you trolling here, are you completely deluded or you just don't have the intellectual capability to think?
It's the UK who want the hard border, not Ireland.
What another treaty to protect the Good Friday Agreement? The treaty is already there. It's called the Good Friday Agreement. UK is ready to break it, not the EU.
Why should the EU do anything to harm their own interests?

[HoppingPavlova]

I researched relentlessly in the run up to the vote, and we decided finally on the day as a couple.

Don’t live in the UK and have no comment re Brexit but this tickled me pink. Did you have to decide as a couple? What if by voting time you had different ideas? Were you “allowed” to vote differently as a couple. How did you even truely know how each other voted? Maybe your partner went the other way and had a huge chuckle? Probably just me but I found this bit all really odd. I know how my husband votes but we don’t need to agree and act as the Borg.

[BigChocFrenzy]

The need for an extension is because the government has spent 2 years squabbling with itself and still can't decide on a deal that its MPs would vote for.
The arrogant fools should have decided what they wanted before invoking A50.

All this talk of traitors just because civil servants can't produce your promised cake with cherries ....
However, this is an anonymous forum, so you can make your silly allegations online without being sued for libel

Leavers are continuing to call everyone else "traitors" because they can't have what Brexit leaders promised them in the referendum.

The EU has a whole menu of exit options, same sort of deals they have given to non-members.
They are not evil and punishing us, when they refuse to give the benefits of Norway for the obligations of Canada

It is unfortunate that the Leave Campaign led many people to believe that is possible

The Canada++ deal, like every other deal, requires the NI backstop, btw.
The EU is naturally supporting their member country, the Republic of Ireland, in this requirement - the RoI could veto any deal without a backstop, anyway.

[Motheroffourdragons]

TheReturn, think we cross posted, 😂. Great minds!

I’d have thought this technical solution would have been found by now, OP, if it were possible.

[Inthebluemountains]

Do you really think that some people aren't going to lose their jobs because of Brexit? I can assure you they are, in fact by brother already has. My husband is likely to lose his too. Do you not care at all about the GFA because you seem to be ignoring any questions about it? Your ignorance is breath taking.

[MinecraftHolmes]

Seriously though, do you understand the Good Friday Agreement?

[autumnbreeze25]

There isn't a single person left in the Conservative party beyond Phillip Hammond who thinks TM should stay. That is the bottom line.

Not even Anna Soubry an arch extreme remainer thinks there is any leverage left whatsoever in TM's position. And yet for some reason we have lots of posts on here suddenly supporting TM!!! Wow what a turnaround

[Efferlunt]

Those that take the side of the EU over their own country in any circumstances really are committing treason of the first order.

Well I think That those that put their own self interests above the interests of their own country are ‘committing treason of the first order’ That describes boris, Nigel et al to a tee.

[TheElementsSong]

Those that take the side of the EU over their own country in any circumstances really are committing treason of the first order. Even if you voted remain you have a duty to the support the best outcome for the country.

(1) I do hope as a true patriot you have planned actual action to deal with this treason. Campaigning for laws? Raising funds for enlargement of prison facilities to incarcerate Remoaners? Gathering patriotic citizens' groups to detect and arrest traitors? Because if you're just typing shite on a keyboard, you're not actually any patriotic use, are you?

(2) Remainers do support the best outcome for the country. That's why we voted Remain. And anyway in a free country, nobody has a duty to "support" any view or position.