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To be annoyed that my dad barely recycles?

149 replies

Danceintherain2018 · 22/07/2018 04:15

He's in his 60s so not old by any means but he refuses to recycle anything apart from cardboard and newspaper and says it's a generation thing. Hmm
I know plenty of people in their 60s who recycle but he flat out refuses to go beyond newspaper and cardboard. It's not even that he doesn't know what he can recycle, he just doesn't care. He uses a lot of cans and bottles which could all be recycled.

Anytime I am round I take what I can home with me but it drives me nuts!

AIBU? How can I make him recycle more? He's having to change his kitchen bin regularly as it gets full with all the stuff he could by recycling.

It's always the little things that grate in the middle of the night isn't it! Blush

OP posts:
Rocinante1 · 22/07/2018 09:50

As a species, we are so unbelievable selfish. It's disgusting.

Just look at all the idiots here- "I don't want to recycle. I don't care about recycling. Not everyone wants too. I'm never going too".

It's all me, me, me. What about keeping a habitable world for future generations? What about everyone else your actions affect? It's disgusting how self involved people are. And this isn't even a challenge. It's using a different fucking bin. We're not asking you to run a marathon everyday. But no... they don't want to coz they only care about themselves. Who gives a toss about our kids and grandkids and onwards. Who cares about the state of the oceans. Doesn't matter if resources rub out in a hundred years, coz we won't be here. Our kids can just learn to deal with it.

I find mumsent disgusting.

didireallysaythat · 22/07/2018 09:51

I genuinely don't get some of the comments. It's not a life style choice, is it ?

If you don't recycle then you should only buy things you can't recycle, and maybe move to live next to land fill or council incinerators.

So much of the crap we put in black bags for the council to collect will still be on the planet long after we've departed.

It's not exactly difficult to put paper on the recycling. I presume most people wash their clothes rather than buying new for each day ???

AhoyDelBoy · 22/07/2018 09:54

@Rocinante1
Couldn’t agree more. I have to leave this thread now as people’s attitudes are making me angry Angry

commonarewe · 22/07/2018 09:56

If the council wants me to waste my time sorting every little thing into half a dozen categories of recycling, then they can pay me at my full hourly rate. Otherwise, they can bugger off! Grin

Gatehouse77 · 22/07/2018 09:59

Rocinante1

You're right animals are the innocent bystanders in all this. But we do know that the planet has been through various extremes of weather and some animals and plants have survived - let's not forget the lovely cockroach which has survived for about 320 million years with adaptation.

Some species didn't survive before humans impacted the earth.

Like I said, I do it but, ultimately, I just don't believe it will make a difference.

Appleandmango22 · 22/07/2018 10:03

I can’t believe the attitude of some of you on here.

Can’t be bothered to recycle and so on.

The planet is being absolutely obliterated by humans. If everyone just done ‘their bit’ the planet wouldn’t be perfect but it would masssively improve its chances.

I think it’s quite disgusting that many of you simply don’t care or are obviously too lazy to care.

GeorgeIII · 22/07/2018 10:04

It's not the recycling it's the using it in the first place. I'd like to use less but often forget to buy the loose tomatoes instead of the plastic containered ones. And look at all those plastic milk containers, yoghurt pots, tubes or bottles of, well, everything from suntan lotion to kitchen cleaner.
It's too depressing to dwell on. I recycle but DH doesn't - I get that it is probably making almost no difference in the greater scheme of things. But he is also a selfish individual!

Ansumpasty · 22/07/2018 10:05

Then you’d be sick if you knew that sometimes, at my local waste centre, whole lorries of recyclable waste get dumped with none-recyclable rubbish when the recycling stations are full.
Your dad’s habits are a drop in the ocean

Rocinante1 · 22/07/2018 10:06

@Gatehouse77

The planet does go through cycles. Always has and always will. It's on the middle of switching polarolirty right now as well.

But there is no denying that we have made it worse. In a pretty bad way. And we can't just go "well, it does it anyway" and think it's ok. It is not. Eventually, the planet would have become uninhabitable anyway... But is it really perfectly ok to speed that process up? No, it is not. There is no excuse to refuse to do your best for future generations.

I'm pretty extreme when it comes to ethical living. My business is also built on my being an ethical jeweller. I live very carefully and am very conscious of carbons footprint and waste and all that. So when s one people can't even be arsed to put paper and glass in a separate bin... well, I won't say what I think they deserve as it probably borders on hate speech.

THEsonofaBITCH · 22/07/2018 10:07

Recycling great for the planet - OOPS up to 3.5 metric TONNES of plastic recycled from other countries slips into the world's oceans from China's coasts (National Geographic, June 20, 2018).

Currently its better to put it in properly controlled lined landfills and spend the money wasted on pretend recycling to create better (shorter lived waste) plastics or ways to process the waste to make it useful

Gatehouse77 · 22/07/2018 10:09

GeorgeIII

I agree wholeheartedly. The manufacturers, production, etc. need to tackle it from their end too. Not all advancement goes in the direction anticipated at conception. And that's not a fault or criticism as life takes unexpected curves all the time. But, they do need to address it now it's known to be a problem. Not sure how though. For some (maybe the majority if we're truly honest) convenience is worth the money/long term effect.

stargirl1701 · 22/07/2018 10:19

My Dad recycles and reuses. He's in his seventies. He remembers sweetie rationing after the war though so maybe a different mindset.

A colleague at work refuses to use any of her wheelie bins - blue, brown & green. She has an old dustbin in her garage and, when it is full, she drives it to the council recycling centre and puts it into landfill waste. She is in her late 50s.

Ansumpasty · 22/07/2018 10:50

A colleague at work refuses to use any of her wheelie bins - blue, brown & green. She has an old dustbin in her garage and, when it is full, she drives it to the council recycling centre and puts it into landfill waste. She is in her late 50s.

I think this is positive, not negative. If people were in charge of dealing with their own rubbish, they wouldn’t be so flippant in what they bought and threw away. For all you know, she might deliberately buy less plastic/cardboard waste, compost and use a milk man, etc.

2beesornot2beesthatisthehoney · 22/07/2018 10:53

Gosh a lot of misinformation. Going on here especially about the recycling of plastics and what “recycling” means in this country. Are people not aware that for LA in this country “recycling” is a money making venture , saving on landfill tax and getting revenue for “recycling”?

I work in an area associated with the waste industry and see for first hand what happens to the stuff that you supposedly recycle . For that reason I never recycle any plastics other than plastic milk bottles and clear plastic bottles.

This is because firstly it is technologically impossible to recycle some plastics - polystyrene, black plastic, previously recycled plastic . Look at the number in the recycle triangle 1 and 2 (PET) are the easiest and sometimes recycled here in the U.K or the Netherlands . However, the collection of widespread mixed plastics has drastically reduced the quality of what is collected.

What worries me most is the amount of plastic shipped from the U.K. to the Far East previously China who had the sense to recently stop it but continuing in other countries where they are more interested in the money it brings rather than our worlds and their own environment. Don’t put your heads in the sand people there is a correlation between us in the rivers in the world and ultimately the oceans which are heavily polluted and where our “recycled” waste goes. We are assisting this.

I believe the most sustainable way to dispose of most plastics ( all but 1 and 2 types) is to incinerate it in modern energy from waste plants that also use the heat as well as creating electricity. I am lucky enough to live in an area where the waste creates electricity but the heat is not collected , I would prefer it if it was both but still choose to only recycle certain plastics because of this.

I would rather we didn’t landfill waste that could be actually recycled but firmly believe that as bad as landfilling is, at least in this country we have high environmental standards than countries supposedly recycling ours where the environmental damage is huge.

And to finish , yes I recycle paper, card, glass, metals which are widely recycled ( glass by the way is usually crushed to make a low grade aggregate not to make new bottles - too much contamination)

2beesornot2beesthatisthehoney · 22/07/2018 10:59

Ha , since starting to write my really long post , others have wriiten far more succinctly what I was saying THEsonofaBITCH for example!

ForalltheSaints · 22/07/2018 11:07

YANBU to be annoyed, OP. It's not generational.

Piffle11 · 22/07/2018 11:10

When we first got our proper recycling bin and tubs a few years ago, MIL - who lives nearby - was basically putting anything into it that she was done with. She claimed that the council could 'probably recycle it' … there was bits of old carpet, broken toys, clothes - anything she was done with went in the recycling bin. She completely ignored the many reminders we got in the run up to the scheme beginning. She was most put out when they started putting big 'contaminated recycling' stickers on it and refused to take it away!

stargirl1701 · 22/07/2018 11:15

Nope @Ansumpasty

She is there every second day dropping off a full bin bag. She does it on the way to work.

woodhill · 22/07/2018 11:16

Yes my dd doesn't as he lives in a flat and the rules are different and there is no individual responsibility

I think it is unacceptable in to this day and age when there is so much pollution

It was also shocking in the USA with no incentive to do so

CoughLaughFart · 22/07/2018 11:21

*Good for you. Would you like a sticker?

It’s not mandatory to recycle.*

You’re right, it’s not. So is that literally the only reason you do anything - because you have to?

You sound more and more ignorant with each post - and what’s worse is you actually seem proud of it.

specialsubject · 22/07/2018 11:22

who are the messy buggers who cant walk without a single use coffee cup and must have the latest brickphone? it isnt the over fifties, is it?

THEsonofaBITCH · 22/07/2018 11:22

It was also shocking in the USA with no incentive to do so
Blanket false statement Confused

I love the holy than thou attitude of some of the recyclers who remain uneducated about what is really going on; those who do it knowing it doesn't really work or that it actually makes the problem worse but not where they can see it drive me bonkers. Those who do it anyway to highlight that it is a worthy goal for "one day" even though it doesn't work right now I applaud.

ToadOfSadness · 22/07/2018 11:22

I often look at the stuff in our recycling and wonder if there is any point, it only takes one household to put the wrong stuff in theirs or leave dirty stuff in it and it is all sent to landfill anyway. I often pick stuff out of ours that shouldn't be in it but I can't go through the entire bin so am sure that much of ours is 'wrong'.

My neighbour, in her 70's admits to not being good at recycling, sometimes I put her bins out and check they are used first, the household waste is usually mixed in with carrier bags that have tins, cardboard and jars in, the recycling often has dirty pizza boxes in carrier bags and various household waste so I think there is no point in us bothering as it will all go in the same load. (Will just say, I don't go through her bins, it is just what is on the top that I see).

LockedOutOfMN · 22/07/2018 11:23

2bees That's really interesting - thanks for explaining. I have to say often I don't bother to put plastics that aren't marked 1 or 2 into the recycling bin as from somewhere along the line I got the impression that they couldn't be recycled. Try hard to reuse things like shampoo bottles and plastic trays that food is packaged in at the supermarket, and to buy as little of these kinds of plastic as possible.

My dad recycles, but he has an uphill battle with my mum who is from Generation Plastic. She absolutely loves plastic and will nod along to my environmental rants which have been going in one ear and out the other for the last 30 years. But she claims she saves water by having a bath every day instead of a shower (and refuses to believe statistics proving the opposite).

I empathise with OP as my very DM's behaviour and attitude upset and frustrate me.

woodhill · 22/07/2018 11:25

Ok well please educate me. That was my perception in comparison to the UK

I was in Florida and in one hotel there was a facility but in another there wasn't. Plus so much plastic such as those little plastic stirrers being used and plastic cups

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