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AIBU to think maybe I have some sort of disorder?

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anyideasonthis · 18/06/2018 22:22

I have recently come to realise how hard I find it to complete actions or take action on ideas and would love to know if this rings any bells with any of you. For background, I am late thirties, married with children, and have run my own business for years. So I am generally competent, busy etc.

Here's my problem: a while ago I spent quite a while researching something to purchase. Not an easy decision, pricing and quality varies wildly etc. I found the best company, pleased with my decision, a page of notes to show for my research..... and yet a month later I still have not purchased said item. No reason other than requiring a bit of time to sort it out. I do this sort of thing a lot - I seem to excel at the research stage but never seem to actually finish the job I start.

Similarly, for my business there is a job I need to do, which although new and challenging, I have done enough training in my free time to know full well what needs doing, and frankly am fairly confident I'll do it well. I have been meaning to do this thing for a couple of years now!! And it's an important thing of direct benefit to the business. So why the hell can't I just DO it??!!

Or, for example, I really need to get into doing regular excercise. I am generally pretty fit & active.... but we all know I need the regular cardio etc. So I tell myself I just need to find ONE thing I like and just do it 3 times a week, no biggie. And I know I would genuinely enjoy doing it - I can think of a few sports I'd like to do. So why the ... hell can't I just do it? I find out about classes and times at different venues near me, make a note, think about it, plan on it...... and then never go. My phone and computer are full of tabs open of things I mean to do, buy, see, read..... I wish I could just either do it or delete it.

I remember at uni feeling so excited about all the new clubs and sports I could join, and wanting to try all sorts and yet, you guessed it, I did the sum total of bugger all. Maybe the odd class here and there but never stuck to anything.

I'm starting to feel like maybe there is some sort of therapy that could help me. I feel slightly embarrassed about starting this pity party.... but I think I need help. Anyone else out there had any experience with this?

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LemonysSnicket · 18/06/2018 23:17

For example, I have an exam on Wednesday. My last exam I left it until 2 days before and got the best grade in the class, so I'm capable. For this exam I now have 2 days left ... so I can do it. But instead? I'm drinking alcohol with a knot in my soul.

Fear. It is all fear.

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TheActualRealCinderella · 18/06/2018 23:18

Read this. Jane B. Burka and 1 more
Procrastination: Why You Do It, What to Do About It Now

It explains the psychology behind different reasons for not being able to do something.

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LemonysSnicket · 18/06/2018 23:19

I agree with PP, it is from being a capable and smart child ... you didn't deal with failure in the formative years so it has become something you're desperate to avoid.

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pickles184 · 18/06/2018 23:20

I feel like I've just found my tribe! I have this same problem and could almost word for word have written your post Coriandersnell!

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anyideasonthis · 18/06/2018 23:20

Thank you so much @greatbighillofhope it's great to hear your similar story. I am starting to accept it's partly that I just have a hell of a lot to do all the time (and a young family) and I never get away from my work, it follows me around 24/7 - I work from home too so perhaps even harder to escape. I think I do need to consider an employee. I think I know deep down it's the right thing - as long as I can bring in the extra cash to cover it. I think I can! But yes yes yes to the perfectionism as well.

You know what, I tried a meditation recently, which was going very well and I was really enjoying. Then it asked me to fill my happy place (in this case a tree house) with all my favourite things - flowers, plants, colours, posessions, howeverI wanted. It went quiet for 2 or 3 minutes for me to enjoy my new happy place. Guess what... my mind froze and I genuinely couldn't move beyond wooden walls... becasue I felt overwhelmed at all the possibilites of things I could fill it with and couldn't choose. I felt panicked, like 'Hang on, I need at least half an hour to sort this out in my mind and get it right, how I want it'!!! Jesus!

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anyideasonthis · 18/06/2018 23:40

Oh Hi, all of you! so nice to have a tribe of competent but hesitant women (men?) to make me feel a little better!! I am going to buy both the books suggested (or at least leave them open in tabs for a few days)... I feel excited to get to the bottom of it. I agree @Lemonyssnicket it is just life, and has been for nearly 40 years, but I'm starting to think I could do it better. Perfectionist, moi?!

But ohmyword yes to @lecossaise, I think you are on to something. I was smart at school. I totally winged it, didn't apply myself anywhere near as much as I should have but still got very good grades. I barely ever did my homework properly and fully - I always did it on the bus in the morning and not to the standard I was happy with. But by that point obviously I was desperate to get it done. But if i did it the night before I would have spent hours and hours over it. Same with exams - I always did pretty well, but i found it hard because I hated trying to condense everything into a short answer quickly when I would prefer to take hours including every detail and possibility. I found it hard to select the right information quickly, even though I knew my stuff.

@reetgood You are right too. I am suffering on every level! I come from a frugal family careful with money and have had to teach myself to let go of guilt around spending, and to allow myself to have nice things (still a work in progress!). By nice things I do not mean a Chanel handbag, I mean trying not to get excited by a new multipack of M&S knickers once a year!

And yes I have struggled quite a lot with anxiety and lack of confidence all my life, so I know this is part of it too.

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junebirthdaygirl · 18/06/2018 23:45

My dd is like this. She ticks all the boxes mentioned as to why
Very bright in school so never experienced failure
A perfectionist so no decision is better than the wrong one
Great ideas and very thoughful eg with cards but sells herself short when doesnt carry through.
She can be anxious as things are hanging over her constantly instead of getting on and doing them.
In my family of origin my dm was a great person to make us finish a job..do a thing to the end and it has served us well. We hated it at the time.
I may have not passed this on to dd.

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PlainWhiteTee · 18/06/2018 23:54

I was diagnosed with ADHD in my 40s, and I'm exactly like you and others who struggle with procrastination and just can't get stuff done. Please look into this and speak to your GP for a specialist referral if you think you need it.

psychcentral.com/quizzes/adhd-quiz/

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anyideasonthis · 19/06/2018 00:02

Thanks @Plainwhitetee, I did read someting on ADHD recently and felt I ticked all the boxes of 'symptoms' described.

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GrainneWail · 19/06/2018 00:03

I'm just posting this article so I have to come back tomorrow.

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MistyMeena · 19/06/2018 00:22

Oh god this is me. I am a shocking procrastinator and irritate myself every single hour of every day. I am intelligent enough and self employed but cannot do anything unless there is a very, very imminent deadline. Then I'm like a demon and can achieve a lot very quickly, but there has to be serious consequences or I just can't be arsed.

I suspect one of my DC to have either ASD or ADD and the more I read about ADD the more I think I might have it.

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SlothSlothSloth · 19/06/2018 00:23

Oh god are you all me?! Here are some of the reasons I think I’m like this (echoing some of you):

  • lack of boundaries and discipline in childhood; parents very uninvolved. Completely disinterested in making me do homework, chores, hobbies etc so never learned self-discipline


  • parents highly critical of anything I did try to do


  • did well in school and uni with no work (all essays night before, exam revision night before) so never learned the value of work. With hindsight, I could have done even better if I’d worked and i regret this


  • unless something is totally last minute, I’m paralysed by a vision of how perfect it needs to be, and I can’t even begin. NEED an impending deadline


  • finally, I think I’m just very lazy! I have wondered about ADHD too...
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seafret · 19/06/2018 00:43

ADHD could be a reason but also finishing things and self-discipline and being able to have a sense of self-satisfaction are skills that needs to be practiced from shildhood, as june says with her Gran making sure they saw things through and got into good habits.

Anxiety does present as lack of attention and concentration, a whirl of thoughts and fears, perhaps similar to ADHD, but there are things that can help and practicing and honing good habits creates self-confidence and a momentum. A voice that says YES YOU CAN! rather than doubts and distracts..

I would look at whether you can do things for other people more succcessfully and easily than you can do things for yourself. If you only really struggle with things that are for you, or where you are the agent/ decision maker/ beneficiary then I would sugest that it is anxiety and self-confidence is probably at the heart of it rather than something like ADHD. I am not a doctor though.

Lots can be done to help anxiety and confidence though. My DH was badly affected but is doing well now and gets much more satisfaction from setting his own standards for things he can control eg how much he practises an instrument and values enjoyment over performance, and not worrying what other people may think), and is happier with achieving a plenty good enough standard for other things, rather than being scared of having to live up to being the best.

My illness put paid to all my perfectionist tendencies a long time ago so I have learned to live with variable abilities and just say to myself, do what you can do. Sometimes that is a lot, sometimes it is a little or not nearly enough which can make me anxious but I try to control it. And that that doing your best does not mean going into the red all the time, effort and achievement has to be sustainable, so we need to save something back for the really serious times and just to stay well.

Hope you find some more peace in your busy life OP as well as some action!! Flowers

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anyideasonthis · 19/06/2018 00:47

@sloth and @mistymeena nice to have you on my boat of disappointing behaviour! I too have a DC who I'm pretty certain would be diagnosed ADHD or similar...it's been hinted at by a couple of professionals. And it does make me look at myself and think maybe I have smthg too. I just did that test a previous poster linked to and came out as likely have Moderate ADHD but of course need a formal assessment.

Anyway, regardless, I think so many comments have been really helpful in understanding how and why this behaviour has formed. With regards to critical parents, need for imminent deadlines and everything being done the night before (or more often through the night until dawn....). And yes, working like a demon once the panic sets in.

Interestingly I realise now that my parents never really helped me form good habits either, something I hadn't really thought about. I was nagged a lot about homework but I don't remember being helped -so they just added to the pressure really. I know I felt overwhelmed a lot by the amount of school work and the expectations (v academic and quite pressured school) so I can imagine that would make me afraid of failure - I generally felt out of my depth and a bit inadequate, despite being a good pupil. They never encouraged regular hobbies or activities (aside from music) so I never got used to having a regular class outside of school. We were always dashing around late. There were 3 of us kids and both parents working so I guess no time, of course! I took up a sport in my early teenage years but it only worked because I could walk there myself.

I have never really thought about all of this so thank you! I don't want to make the same mistakes with my DC. Although I now realise I already have - baby groups were another issue for me. I'd go to one group one week and a different one the next.... I tried them all once. I could never seem to make the same group every week and was in awe of these mums that just managed to do it every week. But I was juggling and trying to squeeze in baby groups around my work...

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Itchyknees · 19/06/2018 01:55

Have a quick look at Pathological Demand Avoidance too.

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BeekyChitch · 19/06/2018 02:02

Procrastination is a demon Angry

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BeekyChitch · 19/06/2018 02:03

Watch a Ted Talk on procrastination you will see you are definitely not alone!

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Fflamingo · 19/06/2018 06:50

But it's also the fact that thinking and planning takes no physical effort and doing does.
And some doing is hard and can go wrong whereas thinking is correctable with no loss.
My DH has a hobby he spends many hours on and it can be tedious and fiddly. I somehow can't find that commitment, at the mo I have several craft things on the go, somehow they are slowly getting done but the pleasure has gone out of it and now I just want them out of the way.
Should I just not start the in the first place? Or have I not found the all encompassing hobby/interest for me?

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Timeisslippingaway · 19/06/2018 07:53

OP, I could be you. I am exactly the same but I plan things in my head. Infact my head sometimes spirals put of control with all the plans I have and I obsess over them. It drives me mad. Most of them I never get round to. Things I really need to get done, like paper work, I could do a small bit every night for 10 mins but I don't I will leave it until the very last min so it takes me hours. I irritate myself. I also have a dreadful memory which worries me even more. I am 28 but I really struggle to retain new information.

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Itchyknees · 19/06/2018 09:06

Undiagnosed ADD (inattentive) here.

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MistyMeena · 19/06/2018 09:07

If I started watching YouTube videos on procrastination I'd be there all day Grin

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greatbighillofhope · 19/06/2018 11:58

At school my reports always said I was intelligent but never applied myself. I think I was petrified that if I tried I might fail so I really, really tried to fail as I knew I could succeed in that at least! I did absolutely nothing for my exams and still did pretty good. I remember my a level teacher saying I totally didn’t deserve my result.
In business though I have always needed to make money so that was enough motivation

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PlainWhiteTee · 19/06/2018 16:09

seafret suggesting to someone with either diagnosed or undiagnosed ADHD that they should practice and develop good habits is right up there with telling someone with depression that they should give themselves a good shake. Actually it's worse, because people do recover from depression. You can't fix ADHD. You can't use positive self talk to make it go away. It's not possible and it's unkind to assume people are just lazy.

I know your post wasn't aimed at me, but those sorts of comments were directed at me my whole life and they are incredibly insensitive and hurtful.

I've got 2 kids, a demanding job and a busy life and it's really bloody hard, every single day, even with a diagnosis and effective medication. I work 10x harder than anyone I know to keep all the plates spinning and I've felt like a failure my whole life because of people saying things like 'you just need to try harder' or 'you just need routines'.

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LovelyBath77 · 19/06/2018 16:12

I think it maybe sounds like being a Perfectionist? Sounds like it all needs to be perfect or not done.

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Fflamingo · 19/06/2018 19:29

I also have a dreadful memory which worries me even more. I am 28 but I really struggle to retain new information
My GP says it’s the constant planning etc that goes on in your head, plus social media, plus rerunning scenarios (what you/he/she said/thought/ meant), what you will do/say when such and such happens etc etc. Mindfulness, meditating should help.

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