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IcingOnTheCake · 15/05/2007 16:32

I used to really like her and i still really like her music but since the whole adoption/attention seeking thing, she really annoys me. The reason i am writing this is because i heard someone say yesterday about how she built her fortune on promoting casual sex and leading teenagers to be premiscious yet with her own kids she doesn't expose them to any form of sex/violence of any kind. Its just been bugging me.

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nailpolish · 15/05/2007 16:33

like any of us - when young you think casual sex is great then you become a mother...

or is that just me


AnnieOleTing · 15/05/2007 16:33

she has grown up since having her own children. think we all do.


tiredemma · 15/05/2007 16:34


I think her fortune has mostly been about her being an 'entertainer' who re-invents herself.

I do like Madonna- im not 'mad' about her, but I have grown up with her music and think that she is a good entertainer.

How she raises her kids is down to her, I have lead quite a promiscuous youth- I wouldnt want my kids to do the same.


IcingOnTheCake · 15/05/2007 16:35

But to me it is a bit hypcriticle that she is so strict with them

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AnnieOleTing · 15/05/2007 16:37

think her father was strict with her. her mum died early. she rebelled big time. perhaps her kids will do the same. then be very strict with their kids...


nailpolish · 15/05/2007 16:37

that makes me a hypocrit too then im afraid

i tried all manner of drugs and men, certainly wouldnt want my dds to do the same


LazyLine · 15/05/2007 16:38

YABU, simply because, (I assume) that you do not know her. You do not, nor do any of us, actually know anything about her. It seems rather ridiculous to decide things about people based on stories that comes through gossip magazines and websites.

Please note that I am not referring to anything related to famous people courting publicity and then hating it.

But, to take stories about celebrities at face value seems silly to me, when most of these sources just make stuff up.


tiredemma · 15/05/2007 16:38

me too- drugs, men the lot.

I would go mental if either of my kids behaved like me in the teens/twenties.


IcingOnTheCake · 15/05/2007 16:39

Yeah she was brought up as a strict Catholic. I just wonder when Lourdes is older, if she decides to follow in her mums footsteps, whether Madonna will be behind that or not?

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ChocolateFace · 15/05/2007 16:40

Is she really that strict with her children? I've heard she only lets them watch TV once a week. If I had nannies to entertain my DC's I would too, but as I don't they watch far too much TV


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GiantSquirrelSpotter · 15/05/2007 16:44

Agree with Lazyline

I don't think she's hypocritical. She's just moved on to a different lifestage.

I don't think it's hypocritical to recognise that just because you've made a living out of something, it might not necessarily be desirable to expose your children to it.

I worked in advertising, but I gently steer my children away from ITV and towards CBeebies and CBBC...


IcingOnTheCake · 15/05/2007 16:46

She did a documentry in 2005 which was a follow on from 1990s 'In bed with Madonna'. In it she said that her children are only allowed to watch 2 hours of tv on Sundays and thats it. I know everyones been 'naughty' in their youth but Madonna openly promoted casual sex etc and said that we should embrace our sexual freedom yet said that she doesn't want her own children to be like that. I find it a tad hypocritcle, kind of like her saying well it doesn't matter if any old persons kids do it but mine aint allowed to. I hope i am making sense?

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ScottishMummy · 15/05/2007 16:46

this is a woman who had photos of her intimate self (probably bits only the gynaecologist should see) on display in books, dodgy movies and everything the pusuit of fame

now she is getting a bit scraggy and bitty minging she gets all virtous and moralising - hmmmm

dont listen to her frankly - like most pop stars she is vapid and self absorbed


3andnomore · 15/05/2007 16:46

I would also think, that she just simply has grown up, I mean, she was only young when she started out (and I was, too..back then, sigh.....)....!
I mean, I know I have done things in the past I am not proud off and would never ever consider doing them now that I am a mother and have also grown up a bit!
I still like her....not sure if anyone watches American Idol, but they did a Idol gives back programme which was in aid of all teh poor children of this world...and Madonna was involved in that, too!


JoolsToo · 15/05/2007 16:48

Gosh I couldn't be ar*ed to get upset over anything Madonna does


IcingOnTheCake · 15/05/2007 16:49

She wasn't that young when she did the 'sex' faze. She was 34 when she did Erotica, its not like she was a teenager when she did it.

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LazyLine · 15/05/2007 16:50

I don't think it's hypocritical of her to state that she doesn't want her children to be embracing their sexuality. They are children after all. She is raising them the way that she sees fit, and when she was acting all "crazy" she was an adult.

I dare say that when her children are adults, they can parade about on stage in ice cream cone bras and give blow jobs to beer bottles all they like. Restricting them when they are small children doesn't really seem like an accurate comparison.


ScottishMummy · 15/05/2007 16:51

giving aid by taking a child from its home- her money would have been better spent sustaining economic development and some trainingfor the village eg sponsor a doctor thru med school, pay for a teacher, build a clinic, sort out the irrigation...not going and stealing ..errr adopting a poor womans baby. she has the money to make the difference to many she ckoose to make a differnece to herself only by selecting a child.


IcingOnTheCake · 15/05/2007 16:52

I know your right, they are children. Its when she said she doesn't want Lourdes to be like her i wonder why she thinks that? I wonder if Moadonna does look back and regret things she did.

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nailpolish · 15/05/2007 16:53

god, dont we all Icing


GiantSquirrelSpotter · 15/05/2007 16:54

tbh I don't see why watching TV is the same as embracing your sexuality

They're more likely to get an oppressive view of what their sexuality should be like than a liberating one of what it could be like.

Seems to me that in this case, restricting the shite they can see on TV is entirely consistent with future sexual liberation!


IcingOnTheCake · 15/05/2007 16:54

I am only 22 Nailpolish but yeah i have things i regret doing.

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paulaplumpbottom · 15/05/2007 16:54

I always think she looks like mutton dressed as lamb. What was with the leotard and running around with teenagers. "COVER IT UP GRANNY"

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