School makes children clean if they talk in class?

[Whynotme99]

What are your thoughts on this? It seems to be a regular occasion in our school, children who say something in one particular class without raising their hand are made to wash windows in break time. Mine have not done it yet (!) but they talk about it. Aibu to think this is not acceptable. This is secondary school.

[Wheresthattomoibabber]

Call the police! Teenagers are being exposed to soapy water!

[MistressDeeCee]

Pengggwn



Its awful and I agree schools need to crack down. Its too much. I know children won't be quiet in class always. I don't agree with over-strictness towards children either, so Im not in 'teacher is always right' mode.

But what I've seen is, children thinking its hilarious to be the class clown, to be the 'cool' one yapping over teacher, the smartass answering back.

Its so disrespectful and I always wonder who the hell raises them. Id have been in full cringe mode if my DCs had behaved like that.

Im eyeing that "I'd call the police" comnent upthread. Seriously?! & would the police come out to arrest teacher on basis of children being made to clean?

[Elendon]

No. Teenagers are being punished by doing something that requires a licence in health and safety. Yes, the police should be involved.

If the pupils constantly talk then you are an ineffective teacher, especially one that teaches music.

[Elendon]

If my son came home and told me he had to get up a ladder and wash windows in the school as a punishment, I would call the police.

If I saw pupils being made to do this in the school I work in, I would call the police.

And, they would come.

[Elendon]

Because, NO ONE ON THIS PLANET, gets children to get up ladders and wash windows.

The op is a wind up.

[MatildaTheCat]

Who mentioned any ladders?! Next thing we will be having someone interpreting this as sending DC up the chimney for breathing wrong.

Cleaning is far more useful than detention.

[Cranberryurgh]

The op hasn't said anything about going up a ladder to do it.

[NicolasFlamel]

There are such things as ground floor windows...

[Hulababy]

Maybe the windows are low down ones, that don't require a ladder of any form, such as interior ones or door ones?

Not sure it is much different to people setting their children additional chores for poor behaviour tbh.

[BitOfFun]

It didn't even occur to me that the OP meant ladders were involved. To be honest, I assumed she meant the inside of the classroom windows. God help us if we need a certificate for that.

[Awwlookatmybabyspider]

My dd would be doing nothing other than cleaning, then. As she never shuts up. She even chats shit in her sleep

[YouTheCat]

Hahaha at 'no one on this planet gets children to go up ladders and wash windows'. I don't think you occupy the same planet as me. Children, in some countries, go down mines and all manner of totally unsafe places.

I see KS1 children every single week day who talk over, interrupt and shout at their teachers. I see children who have no pride in their school who trash every decent piece of equipment. I think cleaning is an excellent answer.

[Elendon]

Oh I get it. This is a funny thread. Send them down the mines, it didn't do me a bit of harm thread?

Hilarious.

Are you actually parents?

[Elendon]

Schools by law do not have low lying windows. Hello real people? Have you been to a secondary school lately?

[YouTheCat]

I didn't say that at all. Do you have problems with comprehension?

I merely pointed out that children on this planet do have to climb ladders and other dangerous things, just to survive and do say it doesn't happen ever is just wrong. I'm also not saying that it's right.

Also, the OP didn't mention any ladders.

[youarenotkiddingme]

Who mentioned ladders?

My ds is expected to help with household chores - that includes cleaning the windows.

Should I expect the police and ds services to turn up?

[Elendon]

We are doing this all wrong.

This is the only solution.

[BarbarianMum]

"Schools by law do not have low lying windows".

Not floor level generally but they do have waist high ones.

[honeysucklejasmine]

I estimate 99% of the students I teach can reach the windows in my classroom.

[Xeneth88]

Good! They shouldn't be disruptive in class.

[Checkingusername]

If my kid still got some form of break then I'd be all for it. However, is lose my entire lunch break & personally I think that's unfair. Sat doing school work having just done school work.

[MistressDeeCee]

So teachers who can't make children shut up are ineffective? If the snowflakes adamantly won't be quiet what's the suggestion then? It can't be punishment, as parents who think its funny that their child has verbal diarrhoea, or are themselves unable to accept their child should be punished in some way, wouldn't stand for it surely?

Give them lines to write. Loads. Away from class they're disrupting. Every time they start their nonsense. Playtime detsntion too. Or would that be deemed too harsh by delicate parents? Would they come rushing to school and wail that their child is missing out on lessons?

There are 2 threads on here about wearisome work colleagues who won't STFU all day. Wonder what they were like at school...

[MissMogwai]

YABU I think this is a great idea and as a mum of teens I wouldn't have a problem if they were made to clean or similar as punishment.

I think more schools should follow suit and maybe there would be better behaviour both in the classroom and out .

[Elendon]

Well missmogwai do your teenage children clean the windows in your house?

Do they clean the toilet? Shower?

My teenage children did indeed clean, but not windows. I had window cleaners for that. My children cleaned their rooms, the bathrooms, their bins, the household bins, they hoovered too. Oh and they put their own dirty washing in the washing machine.

It wasn't a punishment though. It was a contribution to the cleaning of the house they lived in. Sometimes they made dinner too.