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AIBU on house guest etiquette?

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Rudolphthered · 03/11/2016 14:37

First time on here so please be kind! I know this is trivial but it really gets to me. Family help us out with childcare in addition to DD's nursery days but when it's the turn of my FIL I find it hard to bite my tongue.

I fully appreciate the favour he is doing for us, but find he acts differently at ours to when he's in his own home. MIL was the same when she helped out - which almost led to divorce!!

He always comes down the night before which wasn't originally agreed, but fine went along with that. For a slim man he eats a LOT! He will happily eat through all our cheese, fruit and veg. I'm not always around but he has never once asked if it's OK. To me this seems rude. On one occasion he'd eaten at lunch what I was going to give DD for tea..... I hadn't had time to go shopping (I work), so had to think quickly!

He never arrives with food or drink but expects evening meal and wine. We don't pay him so you could argue that's fair enough. But once or twice as a gesture of goodwill would be nice.

He also has habit of leaving all kitchen cupboard doors and drawers open. Will spill stuff on floor and leave for me to clean up. Generally there are poo crumbs left on loo seat (!!!!!) and toothpaste all over towel. Never seen any of this at theirs. Although I don't inspect the towels or loose 😄😄

He has a bad habit of undermining me with my DD. His childcare is OK but very patchy when comes to food etc.. he's not aggressive just passive aggressive maybe?

I can't talk about it with DH as I'm told I'm ungrateful and rude. Like I said it's all small stuff but it's been building up all year!

He's also failed to mention to me when DD has fallen over. Am not going to have a go at him because accidents happen. But seriously? How us he being responsible?

Sorry for rant! Don't think he likes me a great deal. 99% sure he didn't speak to me on our wedd8ng day...

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rollonthesummer · 03/11/2016 17:58

Can you answer some of the questions?

What time would he have to leave his house in the morning to get to you if he didn't stay over?

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Inertia · 03/11/2016 18:01

It isn't working if the care isn't suitable for your child.

It's perfectly reasonable for him to expect to eat while he's providing free childcare. However, leaving your toilet detritus for others to clean isn't acceptable- DH can clean that if he won't speak to him. Or is from nappy emptying ?

I'd pay for a childminder or nursery, perhaps explain that dd needs to start interacting with other children.

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Artandco · 03/11/2016 18:07

If you paid a nanny you would also have to provide food all day they are there.

An nice evening meal for everyone and wine -£10
Fancy cheese -£6

£16 childcare seems very cheap!

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bumsexatthebingo · 03/11/2016 18:14

I think nappy/potty emptying would be more likely to end up on the seat than your fils 'poo crumbs'. Not sure about anyone else but I tend to keep my butthole in the bowl without too much trouble when using the loo Confused

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RichardBucket · 03/11/2016 18:49

He regularly looks after your child for free, and you expect him to buy YOU food or wine.

Read that back a few times and work out how reasonable you are...

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TheRollingCrone · 03/11/2016 18:49

I've always been really jealous of people who can eat what they want

without gaining weight. Biscuit

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2kids2dogsnosense · 03/11/2016 19:20

Generally it's believed men cannot multitask, although I have my doubts on this view.

Agree - every man I have ever known has been very capable of reading a newspaper whilst having a poo. Grin

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OzzieFem · 04/11/2016 02:31

2kids2dogsnosense Grin

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Toolateagain · 04/11/2016 02:54

£6 worth of cheese is cheap childcare. And he needs to do it in the way that is most convenient for him, if that means staying overnight, he stays overnight.
What is his eyesight like? I'm 50 and mine is shocking, he might not be able to actually see pooh crumbs on the loo seat.
But yeah, you clearly need to pay for childcare so that you get it on your terms. He is not a houseguest, he is free labour. If you get your head round that you will, hopefully, see it in a different light.
Bring his own food FFS!!

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LellyMcKelly · 04/11/2016 03:17

Either get a childminder, or get your DH to clean up and make sure there's enough food in for him.

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GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 04/11/2016 03:27

How far away does he live? I always stay the night before my childcare for dd - morning traffic is horrendous and the journey would take two and a half hours instead of an hour and a bit. There is no way I'd come in the morning.
I think it's mean, frankly, to begrudge him food, even if he is a bit of a pig with the cheese. As for not eating certain things in the fridge, you should tell him you need X and Y for later, and leave him something substantial for lunch. And things to graze on, since he evidently wants or needs them.

People who bitch about their parents' or in laws' free childcare might do well to realise that looking after little ones can be considerably more knackering as you get older. Maybe he's hoping you'll 'sack' him? And then have all the hassle of finding an alternative - and paying a damn sight more for it than the cost of a bit of cheese and fruit.

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TheDowagerCuntess · 04/11/2016 04:18

Time to read your OP back to yourself and maybe cop on.

He's not a house guest, for starters. He's minding your child for free.

The bathroom antics are grim. But other than that, the solution is obvious. Confused

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TheDowagerCuntess · 04/11/2016 04:23

Re-reading your OP myself. Grin

You really do actually think of him as a 'house guest', and expect him to bring wine and food with him, when he's doing you a massive favour.

Hilarious!

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Trifleorbust · 04/11/2016 04:25

He never arrives with food? Jesus, OP, I never arrive at the homes of family with food when I am a guests, let alone when I am actually there to do them a favour. Do you realise how much of ingrate you sound when you are complaining about him eating and staying over?

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Arfarfanarf · 04/11/2016 07:26

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honeylulu · 04/11/2016 08:00

Give him his own shelf in the fridge. Ask him what he'd like for it before he arrives to make sure it's enough. Think of it as his "wages". Ask him to leave the other food as is earmarked for meals.
Say "Please clean up the loo after using it, I can't face doing it when I get home".

My kids are always falling over and hurting themselves. My phone would be going all day if I heard about every incident. Terry and agree with him the parameters of what is notifiable. This could be a communication issue.

Coming the night before may well be a wish not to drive when he is tired or has doubt about how well he can see in the dark. My mum (70) will only drive in daylight now.

Don't have wine in the house if you dint wish to serve it. Simples. He does deserve to be fed though even if he has a big appetite.

Having said that I would hate the arrangement. I'm quite introverted and don't like other people in our house for any length of time. (Poo crumbs are a deal breaker anyway imo) If it's not working get a childminder instead.

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