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AIBU?

To feel forcing cross county on children can be counter productive in enjoying fitness

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rabbit12345 · 02/11/2016 09:00

Debate with my DH this morning . DH is a keen runner. He discovered his love of running two years ago after always being a big sedentary child/adult. He now runs 15k a day and loves running.

Today I gave DD a note (first time ever she is in year 9 and PE is a core GCSE subject at her school) so that she did not have to do cross country today. There was a good reason for her not to do it but DH thought I should be forceful in encouraging our daughter to take part.

I should say that we are a very active family. My DD in question dances 5 x a week for 2 hours a time.

My argument stems from my childhood. I remember having to run around a muddy school field in the freezing cold, gasping for breath (some girls were physically sick). You had the naturally sporty girls who would fly around the field and it only led to feeling more inferior and ultimately I ended up bunking off from the lesson or forging notes from my parents. I believe that this has led to a lifetime aversion to running. Every time I think I would like to try, I remember the muddy school field. In many ways I feel that being forced into it as a child, led to my general aversion to physical activity as an adult and it took me years to look at this differently and start finding activities that I loved.

So my argument is to encourage physical activity for the children but in areas that they love and not to worry if she decides that she does not enjoy running around a muddy field. (I told her to walk it if she wants) I feel by putting pressure on her could be counter-productive. I just feel health and fitness is so important and should be approached in an enjoyable way and I do not understand why the school do not make nutrition/lifestyle an important part of the lesson.

DH says that there are things in life you just have to do and we should take that view with DD. But surely this relates to paying bills etc. As an adult if she realises she does not have to do it then she will not if she has been forced through childhood. Surely it is better to educate a healthy lifestyle in it's entirety?

AIBU.

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MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 02/11/2016 13:37

Ghodavies - it's not about excusing kids from things they don't love. PE is probably the only subject that isn't taught particularly well in any school I've been involved in. Maths & English rarely contributes towards bullying or subjects children to feelings of shame and humiliation, or even injury through not not being taught correctly.

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rabbit12345 · 02/11/2016 13:37

Iscream - sorry I have just seen your question.
It is simply that she does not suffer that bad with them at the moment. If that changed I would consider it definitely.

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SpunkyMummy · 02/11/2016 13:38

I think YABU.

I was forced to go skiing and I hated it (but I did like cross country). Sure, I still don't like skiing but I do like other winter sports and exercise in general.

I feel like having to do things one dislikes is good preparation for later...

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SpunkyMummy · 02/11/2016 13:41

Oops, just read the whole thread.

She was sick? That does influence my opinion.

Not forcing her is ok, imo. Although I'm not 100% sure I'd do it if I was in your position... Blush

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BarbarianMum · 02/11/2016 13:45

Local to us is a woodland which has a special cross country/assault course/mud run course especially for use by school groups. It's very popular - and I can't say I've especially noticed girls avoiding it but maybe they do. I am pretty tired of the myth that girls/women can't enjoy sport unless it's done indoors in the warmth and doesn't involve breaking into a sweat or messing their hair up though. That may be true for some, others actually enjoy being outdoors.

All school PE can/should do is offer a wide variety of activities for people to try. This will include some things that individuals don't like and that's OK. Blaming your life as a couch potato on the fact you once ran around in the rain/got muddy/aren't any good at netball is a cop out.

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stealthsquiggle · 02/11/2016 13:53

Kind of conflicted about this. Both my DC are rubbish at running, although reasonable (and much keener) at other sports. I have never pulled them out of cross country (which really is cross country - up and down hills and through woods), although the school matron has sometimes when they have colds (especially DS who has occasional exercise-induced asthma). I have been tempted sometimes, especially when they are finishing near the back of a large group, but I have bitten my tongue and encouraged them to try and compete with their own personal best rather than with their super-speedy peers.

DS has now moved to a senior school, where they do loads of sport, but not regular cross country. They have a whole school run once a term (I think) and those not that way inclined are apparently already dreading it - but DS shrugged his shoulders and said it was not even as long a run as the weekly cross country he used to do.

Which left me thinking that actually, even if school has left him thinking that he doesn't like running, at least it has also left him knowing that he can..... Confused

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liletsthepink · 02/11/2016 14:13

Op, YANBU. Your DD is ill so she needs time to recover from her infection.

Your DH is so caught up in his love of running it is making him believe that it will do your DD good to suffer. Has his running become an obsession rather than a hobby?

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AyeAmarok · 02/11/2016 15:10

YANBU to have written a note if she was still unwell.

However, I don't think any child should be able to opt out of any PE class just because they don't like it or aren't good at it. I agree with your DH, some things you just have to do.

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Bobochic · 02/11/2016 15:16

Cross country and long distance running are restricted in pre-pubertal DC in many countries, for excellent reasons.

I personally loathe and abhor outdoor sports in cold weather. They have always made me absolutely miserable and quite unwell. This has nothing to do with my general levels of health, fitness and personal care, which are excellent.

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NavyandWhite · 02/11/2016 15:17

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kaitlinktm · 02/11/2016 15:25

Grin LiviaDrusill going to the shop on cross country takes me back - in the 60s no such namby pamby nonsense as running on a school field. We ran around the local area in our "gym rompers" (don't ask) Blush.

If it was first thing or afternoon we would stop off for sweets, if it was just before dinner time we often got a bag of chips to eat on the way back. My friend used to get a pie and then we used to have a school dinner.

Those were not the days! Wink

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JessicaEccles · 02/11/2016 15:27

Cross country was the only thing I enjoyed doing for sport at school, as it relied more on stamina than talent. I also think that encouraging children outside, in weather that is hardly extreme or damaging can only be good for them. Girls can't always be pristine and not get out of breath.

If you tell me your daughter goes rambling every weekend I will concede UANBU

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Megainstant · 02/11/2016 15:58

Cross country and long distance running are restricted in pre-pubertal DC in many countries, for excellent reasons

What reasons and where?

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Guiltypleasures001 · 02/11/2016 16:02

Oh god I hated x country and I played rounders and netball at county level in my teams

In the 80s, running up to and around the common which was huge and muddy, in silly little arse length
Grey Pe skirts and crappy blue pe knickers, getting cat calls from Pervy drivers.

Hated it, but on the plus side we ran past my back gate, so in we went for a warm up and cup of tea, then jogged out again when they passed pretending to be all out of breath.

Hated it

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LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 02/11/2016 16:06

kaitlin happy days Grin

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LittleLionMansMummy · 02/11/2016 16:08

I was a naturally sporty girl, loved team games etc. Absolutely hated cross country though. My parents would never have written me a get out note though. If there's a genuine reason that's fair enough I think, but not just because a child doesn't enjoy it. I was bullied mercilessly in drama class for having the wrong trainers, but still had to do it. I hid out in chess club, which got me even more bullied, but still had to do it. I lay awake for nights on end before having to do oral presentations but still had to do it. The problem is not the activity, it's the bullying which is just as likely to happen in other classes as it is in PE. Maths and English classes are not some kind of refuge from bullying.

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annielouise · 02/11/2016 16:16

My fond memory of cross country is it used to be just before lunch and the route would take us past my friend's house. We'd run as far as there and then pop into her place for lunch, a sit down and watch the Sullivans until time for school again. I'm aware that's not helping the discussion at all Grin.

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annielouise · 02/11/2016 16:17

Haha, just saw Guiltypleasures used to do the same thing. Should have read the thread.

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JessicaEccles · 02/11/2016 16:33

Our cross country route used to take us down the local Lovers lane. So we could bang on the steamed up car windows. Educational.....

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Guiltypleasures001 · 02/11/2016 17:16

Ours also took us past smokers alley, so all,sharing one fag and hoping someone had brought a lighter Grin

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Guiltypleasures001 · 02/11/2016 17:17

Nods at ANNIE Grin

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birdsdestiny · 02/11/2016 17:30

Ours used to go last my friends grand house, we would nip in for a cup of tea. We were 11, no idea where the supervision was. My DS has discovered a love of long distance running through doing cross country. He hates rugby should I write a note excusing him? The role of schools is to offer a range of sports. You did nothing wrong as your Dd was sick. But to write notes because children don't like something is surely not a good idea. I hated art, have never used it in my adult life, wasn't allowed to opt out though.

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gleegeek · 02/11/2016 17:30

I hated cross country too! Used to go to my friend's and watch neighbours Grin
OP I don't think YABU as your dd is poorly and PE is so badly taught at many schools that she probably hasn't missed out on anything by not participating!

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annielouise · 02/11/2016 17:31

I've read the thread now Guilty and there were a few of us skivers Grin

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birdsdestiny · 02/11/2016 17:32

gran's house not grand house Smile

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