The nightmare continues

[crossroads3]

Have woken up this morning to the gut wrenching realisation after being asleep that we are still leaving the EU, and we still now have a political vacuum which is likely to be filled by people with even more of a neo liberal agenda than Cameron. At the head of a government which has a mandate of 36% of the electorate.

What is going to make any of this better?

[NotYoda]

I think that anyone liking of BJ highlights just how ingrained the class system is. It's like some 18th Century peasant doffing their cap to the kindly land-owner because he's quite good fun at the yearly Harvest Festival celebration

[TheoriginalLEM]

its horrible and im devastated. i didn't look on mnet yesterday but thank you for this thread OP. I too have woken with a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach and I'm genuinely frightened. Ok i suffer from anxiety anyway but this is now horribly real and i have no idea what is going to happen to my family.

[Cherrypi]

Another positive at least it wasn't higher than 52%.

[SolomanDaisy]

Did someone actually just tell the OP that this won't affect her in a major way? People really have no understanding of what they just did, do they?

[Justchanged]

I agree with the OP. I woke up feeling worse than yesterday. The news is nightmarish - like that Mockumentary on UKIP winning the election. And no, I don't want all the Remain predictions to be proved right.

This is by far the biggest event to happen in my lifetime and the effects will change this country forever. My and DH's jobs are at risk so yes, we can we will keep talking about it.

[MumOnTheRunCatchingUp]

If we had stayed life wouldn't be so damn rosy either

You know that right??

[crossroads3]

I didn't think life was "rosy".

Yesterday's decision takes us to a whole new level of uncertainty with no politician able to tell us what is going to happen and how they are going to bring it about.

Yesterday's decision also brings with it concrete, measurable losses. Not least to many people's identities.

[crossroads3]

And we have the likes of Marine Le Pen and Donald Trump congratulating us .

[UnGoogleable]

I had that 'Oh shit ' feeling when I woke up too OP - I can only hope today brings more leadership and direction on what we're actually going to do. So far it has been woefully lacking.

[MrsJoeyMaynard]

I think it's too soon to have any idea what anyone can do to make anything better. Nobody has a clue how badly this will affect us yet. Yesterday's news was like some horrible nightmare. Only worse because it's real.

Would finding a picture of Boris Johnson or any other prominent Leave campaigner and vandalizing it with a marker pen cheer you up momentarily?

[Girlgonewild]

I woke upyesterday sure we would have won as Remainers, excited and happy (until I read the news).... but today I am at least a bit more adjusted to it, not feeling quite as bad.

I am very keen we get Clinton, Merkel and May as a female axis of power in the Western World. So anyone who has any influence try to get May over BJ if you can (although BJ is always good fun and is bright so not a disaster by any means).

Change can bring opportuntiies and I would not hold my breath for us invoking Article 50 too quickly and indeed we might agree with the 27 other states some different form of departure. It will be interesting times.

I am keen on the ScotLund axis - London and Scotland wanted in and rest of the UK out. I wonder what we can usefully do with that?

Perhaps UDI London and Scotland (just joking) and only spend London tax revenues on Scotland and within the London boroughs?

[crossroads3]

Yes I think it would actually so I shall be doing that today .

[Carterama]

I agree with you OP, I've woken up just feeling sick today, the U.K. will now undoubtedly split and those of us who are left will be governed by the far right, I've woken up in 1930's Germany.

[crossroads3]

X post this post was to mrsjoey.

[crossroads3]

I am keen on the ScotLund axis - London and Scotland wanted in and rest of the UK out. I wonder what we can usefully do with that? yes I have been wondering this as well - and Northern Ireland.

[crossroads3]

carterama I also feel sick.

[kittybiscuits]

No suggestions OP, but I hear you. Most people who voted to leave, I have to say, are generally too stupid to understand the catastrophic consequences of their actions. So they just try to minimise. Well you know that already, from reading your own thread.

[Maudd]

I feel the same as you OP. Can't offer any positivity. Feels like I'm on stuck on a sinking ship with those who caused it to sink celebrating all around me. If someone wants to post that I should fuck off somewhere else then, just meh. Sick of all the nastiness and hatred over this.

[milkyface]

Oh come on.

Would we not all fair better if we all just bloody well got on with it, made the best of it and stopped arguing with each other?

Please someone tell me how whinging whining and name calling is helping the situation? It's not. It doesn't change fuck all.

It's happened. It's scary but I can't help but think we would be better equipped for change if we stopped either arguing/quivering in a corner and just dealt with it.

It might not be what you wanted, but it's happened.

I know people are losing houses and being made redundant not fired but regardless of the eu these things do happen anyway, yes not as much obviously but they do and we deal with it and move on.

I assume we will have a recession, but arguing with people who voted differently than us isn't going to make that any better

[SolomanDaisy]

I find the posts telling people that if they don't like it they should leave the UK hilarious. It's like they don't understand that, amongst the many other shit things they have just voted for, they voted to remove freedom of movement. Which is a bit dim if you just want people who disagree with you to leave the country.

Also, in my case, I've already left the country. It was intended to be very temporary, but the massive economic turmoil that's about to happen will make it very difficult to return.

[SolomanDaisy]

What would you like us to just get on with milky? Quick whip round to pay off the £200 billion that was wiped off the value of the UK yesterday?

[MagicMonkeys]

Blah blah blah

[ViolettaValery]

Friends of mine who work contract and freelance are already getting work cancelled. It's extremely real and extremely serious - anyone who voted leave in the belief it "wouldn't really affect" people has some serious waking up to themselves to do. The contract market is obviously extremely responsive to change which is why this has happened so quickly, but it's a canary in the mine for stable jobs with a similar profile.

Sorry, OP, that doesn't help! My only general comment would be that we always tend to over-estimate the short term effects of complex events and under-estimate their long-term effects. So right now, it all seems disastrous, but we'll probably cheer up at some point over the next few weeks when someone - someone! - puts a plan in place, with accompanying partial recovery of sterling and FTSE.

The long slide over the next ten years will probably still happen, but I guess we'll just have to tackle it in a better mood than we're in now, and I think we will be able to do that. We are where we are. I'm not going to let a bunch of wrong-headed, thoughtless people ruin my life. In every downturn there are opportunities.

One thing I will fervently campaign for though if I ever have the opportunity is this: no more referendums. Ever. Scotland is a bit different because that genuinely IS about independence, but in both the case of AV and Europe the contests ended up being about something totally different to the question on the ballot paper, and that is NOT democracy to me. We've lived in a mostly stable and accountable and functioning representative democracy for several hundred years, I don't see why the big obsession with direct democracy when we just don't have the quality of public debate to support it. It's not like a vote on bin collections. People couldn't engage with the real issues over Europe, and politicians/gutter press made sure that they couldn't, and that's why we're here.

[kesstrel]

crossroads

You could sign this parliamentary petition, as a way of voicing your distress:

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215

[milkyface]

What would you like us to just get on with milky? Quick whip round to pay off the £200 billion that was wiped off the value of the UK yesterday?

Ah yes that's exactly what I meant.

No of course bloody not!

I just think if we all stopped bitching and moaning and stopped fearing what might happen and just sort of... Carried on as we were?

Maybe I'm a thick racist uneducated twat naive, but it's only been just over 24hrs and everyone thinks the worlds gonna end.

Can we not just deal with shit as and when it happens?

Do you honestly think that it's all down hill from here and will never get better?

I don't.

It will get better.