to be a little bit sad at this beauty salon leaflet

[hiraeth77]

I'll start by saying that I don't have any dds, so I accept I'm out the loop on this as it's a long time since I was a teenager, but AIBU to be a little bit sad that this beauty salon offers this as a thing, or just naive to think that this isn't part if their everyday lives, even at 13? Should we really be teaching them that make up = confidence? Genuinely curious as to whether I'm being a fuddy duddy or forgetting how grown up 13 yr olds actually are.

[ghostyslovesheep]

if it helps though I don't wear make up - maybe that balances out the fact that my 13 and 11 year old have chosen to do so

[hiraeth77]

Sorry ghosty. Didn't mean to sound judgey at all. Like I've said, just mourning the loss of innocence a bit and recognised that I may be being naive

[BagelGoesWalking]

Wow, really! Might have to investigate when I'm next in Boots Real blast from the past moment when I read it.

[hiraeth77]

3 for 2 lay time I looked bagel!!

[hiraeth77]

Last, not lay

[MaQueen]

DD1 is fair haired, but developed quick thick hair on her legs from when she was about 9. She started to get teased about it, and stopped wanting to wear shorts and dresses etc. I guess I could have spent days/weeks counselling her about 'being your own unique person who doesn't subscribe to peer pressure...'

But she was 9 and upset, so I started Immacing her legs. Job done

[minifingerz]

Wish I'd sent my dd to one of those. She's 16 and has spent the last three years looking like Jordan.

[5tardusty]

I had horrible skin and horrible hair. I spent my teens trying to hide and failing to recognise my lovely straight teeth and slim figure. I would have loved someone to show me that i was not a hideous troll at that age.

[branofthemist]

It's nothing new. Lots of girls wore make up before 13 when I was at school in the 90s. It's nothing new.

And tbh I wish someone had shown me how to apply it. It would have given me more confidence.

[CaveMum]

I'm another one who had awful skin (still do!) and a mono brow as a teen. I wasn't allowed to wear make up or do anything about my brows until I went to a Clinique counter at 16 and asked for help! Even then it probably took me until I was in my mid-20s before I felt comfortable, thank god for threading is all I can say!

DD is only 2 and is developing eyebrows to rival the Gallagher brothers already so I'll have no qualms about taking her somewhere to get them thinned out if she wants to when she's older.

[MeAndMy3LovelyBoys]

Makeup and beauty isn't the spawn of Satan. The fact is, it does increase some girls'/women's confidence. Some people are blessed to be naturally beautiful but some, like me, aren't.

[skivvywoman]

What would you all do if you had a DD who didn't want to wear make up?

Then she wouldn't wear any

[ifyoulikepinacolada]

I think it's always better to know how to do something and then choose not to, than not know how and end up intimidated by it. It feels as though it's more of a true choice that way somehow?

Makeup and beauty can be used as a stick to beat women (and men) with, yes. They can also be a source of enormous pleasure. I don't wear makeup every day but I love the stuff! And if my hypothetical dd is going to wear it - which is entirely her choice - she can learn about it properly and apply it with confidence and skill.

[RubbleBubble00]

I had awful acne at this age. I found it confidence crippling. Mum took me to a couple of make up counters for trials and found the right make up for me and cleaning routine which was probably more important in the long run.

My acne was so bad I had to wear green cream, full foundation, concealer and powder. But because I was shown properly how to do it, friends were always amazed when I slept over at the amount of make up is lapped on as they said it looked so natural. Even the Dr was suprise when I removed some of my make up to show him how bad my skin was.

It was a life saver. Gave me huge confidence boost

[TheCraicDealer]

I genuinely love applying make up every morning, it's like a hobby. I'll still go out without it on, but I love the products and just the process of application. It's certainly not a crutch or anything.

If a teenager has an interest in make up and beauty then I don't see the harm- as with anything she'll benefit from some guidance from a professional. It would be different if it was a girl who had zero interest being forced along, but in that case I don't think you'd get them to sit still long enough for the beautician to heat up the wax.

[Fluffycloudland77]

You're mum sounds great rubble

Mine liked to keep me a plump, thick glasses wearing buck toothed frump.

[Clayhead]

This thread has made me think, my teenage dd has never mentioned wanting to dye her hair but I was chucking tons of Sun In and Shaders and Toners on my hair from when I was about 12/13! Used to love the adverts in Girl magazine

[Woodydog1]

Hi. I have been a bit bemused in the past by my friends children having pamper birthday parties from as young as six years. Thought it a bit sad the girls were being encouraged to sit still for nails and pedicures instead of running bonkers for 2 hours. However, come 13 plus I don't think it's a bad idea for someone to explain good skin care and give a few tips on make up application. My hope they might be taught less is more when they still have naturally beautiful skin! No I would not have a problem with this at 13+. My 13 year old dd might though. She's shown zero interest in anything remotely to do with facial soaps and hair management yet and that's fine by me too.

But I can see where you are coming from. My daughters friends look way to grown up when sporting a fully made up look.

[Henrysmycat]

For starters 13 (or even earlier) is an excellent time to learn about skincare. How to wash, nurture your skin, be careful of the sun, alcohol and smoking. Same applies for your body too. Your skin is your largest organ it needs care.
With regards to makeup, I think it good for them to learn some basics. My mother never wore any but I adore makeup and growing up pre-Internet, I had to get hold of Just17 to get some ideas.

[MrsJayy]

Oh toners and shaders to you still get those?

[TheCraicDealer]

I saw on that show Ten Years Younger when I was like 15 that apparently your skin starts to age from you're 17. Might be a pile of cobblers though

[Toddlerteaplease]

Having my eyebrows shaped aged 14 was a huge confidence boost for me. I wish I'd been taught how to apply makeup because I didn't have the confidence to do it until I was 32

[RiverTam]

usual if DD didn't want to wear make up I wouldn't give a hoot, I find the idea of encouraging one's DD to wear it most peculiar. What I would encourage is that, should she choose to wear it, to get some expert advice on applying it. But I wouldn't have an issue with her never wearing it. How crap to think you can't look 'groomed' without it, or in fact that it's good to look groomed.

How do boys get through puberty and acne and what not without make up? I mean, I have zero issue with boys wearing make up at all, but presumably it's not offered up to boys as a help with confidence in the way it appears to be with girls, so wonder what their parents offer to help.

[BeckyMcDonald]

I'm not keen on teaching girls that they have to wear make-up to look 'better'. I think make-up has become so normal that people think they have to wear it. I know many, many people who won't leave the house without it, which I think is a really sad state of affairs.

I don't really think make-up enhances people's faces, I just think paints a new face over the top, which is a bit weird really, when you think about it.

Anyhow. To each their own I guess. I'm. It going to judge anyone for wearing make-up but I do think it's a bit depressing that women, and it is usually women, think they have to paint a face over the top of their normal face to look good.

I do wear it from time to time but I always feel a bit sweaty and like I can't get something out of my eye, or eat properly, for fear of it smudging everywhere,