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To get fed up with people with people like Jamie Oliver trying to coerce poor people via taxation.

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Booyaka · 19/10/2015 22:47

I absolutely loathe Jamie Oliver anyway, but this crusade of his over sugar is driving me mad. I think something possibly needs to be done about sugar, but I don't think this is the way to do it. He did make a suggestion about prominently labelling total number of teaspoons of sugar in a product, which seemed quite sensible. But mainly he was pushing the tax angle.

Jamie Oliver's entire schtick seems to be that poor people can't be trusted to make the right decisions so they should instead be priced out to force them to make the decisions that he and his ilk believe that they should be making.

It bloody annoys me that they seem to think if you are wealthy and can afford them anyway you can be trusted to make the right decision anyway, but if you're poor you need to be coerced, and that coercion, of something as basic as what you eat and drink, is fine as long as you are poor. He did very much concentrate on handwringing about 'the deprived' too and how this tax would seemingly save them from themselves.

Apparently 1/3 of the products he sell in his restaurants are high sugar anyway, but he probably doesn't mind that, because he prices his tat so highly only middle class people can afford it and they're sensible enough to be trusted with sugar unlike the proles.

He probably doesn't realise, but a lot of people can't afford to take their kids to Tuscany or the Caribbean, Cornwall or even Skeg-bloody-ness. They can't buy their kids a lot of toys or give them days out. Is it really fair to give these people a financial kicking for giving their kids one of the few treats they can afford? Especially when many of them do so sensibly and in moderation.

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flyrobynfly43 · 23/10/2015 20:58

Sugar Tax won't work.

We need to tackle the 'fat acceptance movement' that seems to be infecting the country at the moment.

There was an advert on prime time tv tonight about plus size clothing and the women weren't just overweight, most were HUGE! It's as if we are now being forced to celebrate obesity fgs. Shock
The world has gone mad.
As long as we keep normalizing obesity and dressing it up with silly names.
then sugar tax and other quick fixes won't work.

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 23/10/2015 21:05

People during the war didn't get fat because food was rationed. Hmm You can't say stress doesn't cause obesity because, WW2. Food was not readily available during WW2.

HelenaDove · 23/10/2015 21:14

Yes Sarah I believe testosterone explodes on contact with saucepans.

Garrick · 23/10/2015 23:23

Grin Helena.

Thanks for explaining the unexpectedly complex logic about wartime rationing, Cheddar.

If I were constantly surrounded by messages telling me I'm a worthless, lazy, stupid, ugly, expensive freak, Fly, I would probably welcome some positive affirmation. Tbh I'm glad there is some; it doesn't look like the vilification's going to stop any time soon.

HelenaDove · 23/10/2015 23:28

Unfortunately i cant take the credit for it Garrick Its a quote from the character Belinda Lang played in 2.4 Children. I filed it in my memory bank years ago because i knew it would come in handy so its thanks to Andrew Marshall who wrote it Smile

HelenaDove · 24/10/2015 00:42

Garrick Booyaka Charity and a few others on this thread.....i think you will find this an interesting read.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/23/oprah-weight-watchers-corporations-profit-flesh-food-giants?CMP=soc_3156

minimalist000001 · 24/10/2015 01:02

The sugar tax has been proven to work very well in other countries. I think it's only fair that the tax from sugary items is directed towards the NHS in order to cope with the huge rise in obesity and diabetes. Just as it's fair that cigarettes are highly taxed. I don't care what class sugar eaters are,

MadeMan · 24/10/2015 01:51

"I particularly liked it when he told us to nip down the local park and pick some herbs."

There's a guy on a bmx in my local park selling herbs in small plastic bags with uzi's printed on them; is that what Jamie's on about?

HelenaDove · 24/10/2015 02:06
Grin
shebird · 24/10/2015 17:51

A very interesting lecture explaining the impact that sugar or its more widely used replacement,high fructose corn syrup, has had on our health and rising obesity. Warning this is quite long but explains why JO feels so strongly about this.

www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/262978.php?page=2

limitedperiodonly · 24/10/2015 22:10

A very interesting lecture explaining the impact that sugar or its more widely used replacement,high fructose corn syrup, has had on our health and rising obesity. Warning this is quite long but explains why JO feels so strongly about

this

No it's not. If there is any more blatant reason why health care professionals and the concerned amateur don't get it, then it's the fact that you felt the need to give a warning about the length of your link for fear of boring the tits off us.

But I find it ironic that Jamie Oliver, who makes much of being dyslexic, would find your link even more arse-achingly dull than me.

PiperChapstick · 28/10/2015 19:49

NRTFT as its too long but I think JO has a good idea - crap food shouldn't cost less than healthy food - and I don't get the hatred towards him at all Confused

t1mum · 04/11/2015 11:06

Only 124 children in England and Wales are classified as having Type 2 diabetes (which isn't always diet related anyway). 99.6 per cent have an autoimmune condition which can't be prevented by diet. The facts.

Shockers · 04/11/2015 18:24

There are plenty more that will develop type 2 diabetes in adulthood because of eating patterns that are being established now though.

t1mum · 04/11/2015 19:55

Although they are just as likely to increase their risk (which is what it is, rather than a direct result of the food consumption) from eating fat, exercising too little, drinking too much fruit juice, eating too much pasta, etc

HelenaDove · 10/11/2015 22:25

Im waiting for him to say something about these.

Bet i will have a long wait though Hmm

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-3310098/How-favourite-festive-drinks-contain-ONE-grams-sugar-nearly-700-calories.html

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