to be worried about Islamic State terrorists sneaking in with the refugees/migrants?

[ender]

Surely this is a risk with such large numbers?
Although if it was then presumably more effort would have been made to screen the incomers when they first arrived in Hungary.
Is there some kind of screening/surveillance going on that we don't know about?

[ThroughThickAndThin01]

I dont think you are unreasonable, I thought it was a well known fact this is what Isis is currently doing.

[LikeIcan]

Op: YANBU.

[PantryofWhoGivesAFuck]

If they want to come in, they sure as fuck aren't coming in in a leaky boat.

Anyway, they are already here.

[Atathania]

On the next page of The Express: "Diana is ALIVE and an ISIS sleeper agent". I mean, come on. We need a better source than that.

[MrsGentlyBenevolent]

I don't think you're being unreasonable either. Just because the IS has the means/money, the refugee migration is an opportunity to move members on mass. Do you think the higher ups in the organisation will care if they lose a couple to drowning or accident? Just makes it look like they are even more part of the innocent who are truly trying to escape. It's not a 'bad' thought to pass anyone's mind, in fact anyone who doesn't consider that ISIS wouldn't use an opportunity to move members on mass, with a chance of not being papered or fingerprinted, is quite ignorant. It may not happen, but it's certainly a possibility.

[Lagoonablue]

They don't need to sneak in to the UK. There are plenty of people here they can call on. It's a huge network. Unlikely they need to pose as refugees just to get a foothold in a country! You underestimate their support.

[LikeIcan]

I'm not sure why some of you are so certain that a few ISIS members aren't amongst the refugees - why are you so confident about this? where are you getting your information from?

[ThroughThickAndThin01]

Totally agree MrsGently, I'd go as far as to say they are a dim organisation if they don't try to infiltrate a good number that way. And dim, they aren't.

[Holowiwi]

I imagine that ISIS members will be able to get in using fake passports etc. Trying to get in with other refugees and migrants would be unreliable and a bit silly. Plus haven't all terrorrist attacks been perpretrated by home grown individuals?

[ender]

Kanye - yes, people are so closely watched when traveling by plane - passports, visas, luggage scrutinised. Alerts are triggered when suspicious people pass through. From news reports it looks like people arriving in Hungary could have wandered off carrying anything they liked in a rucksack once they got to Germany and no one would know anything about them.
That's why I wondered if there's some kind of monitoring or surveillance of incomers going on that we don't know about.

[Aeroflotgirl]

Yanbu at all, there might be a risk, there should be systems in place to prevent this. Isis will do anything, they kill themselves for their cause. Do not be complacent.

[Youarentkiddingme]

I wouldn't trust the Daily Express as a reliable source.
Every year without fail they do a massive front page story on the freak weather we are about to experience - afaik they have never been right yet!

There is a threat of terrorism. I'm not convinced Isis is entering through refugees despite the fact they stated they would. I suspect they said this to a) make people suspicious of the people they have driven away and b) to throw us off the scent of the way there are entering the country (as if the government is that stupid!)

Personally the people I listen to are the refugees themselves when interviewed by the media. Only they can tell their own story.

[LikeIcan]

Personally the people I listen to are the refugees themselves when interviewed by the media. Only they can tell their own story.

Yep. An Isis member is really going to tell a reporter his/her real intentions.

[XCChamps]

I think it's simplistic to think ISIS won't risk the safety of their operatives. For a start there are plenty (Inside and Outside UK) who sympathise with the cause but aren't part of the "official" movement and we know that organisations do risk the lives of their covert operatives. It's well publicised that we did it ourselves during the war and less well publicised that we still do.

Also, DC has said the people we take will be direct from Syrian camps, not those who have made the perilous journey, in order to discourage others from making the trip.

That said, not taking refugees won't stop them coming, it will just mean they take different risks.

[Youarentkiddingme]

Obviously not likeican but why not believe the lies from the refugees rather than the scare mongering ones from the media?

Truth is that no one actually knows the truth. And it's terrifying.

[LikeIcan]

Exactly. No one knows.

Which is why I keep an open mind in things like this, & why I'm a bit at the people who, categorically refuse to believe, it's even a remote possibility that Isis could be amongst the refugees.

[PHANTOMnamechanger]

I don't think it is any more or less likely that there could be the odd ISIS agent in among the refugees, as it is that any random person sitting next to me on the tube, born and raised in the UK, is one.

No we don't know - but that is not an excuse not to help fellow human beings in dire need.