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AIBU?

To leave if DH takes redundancy

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Voiceoffstage · 03/02/2015 17:57

Good Evening allSmile

My DH and I work for the same public sector organisation, him for 30 years, me for 27. We met at work some 15 years ago and have been married for 9 years. DH has been offered the opportunity to apply for a voluntary redundancy package. He really wants to leave, he says that he hates his job, he feels under stress (but won’t talk to his manager about it) and says that the job will kill him if he stays. I am a higher grade than him and earn significantly more. He says that I have an easier job (being a manager) and don’t understand the pressure that he’s under - the same pressure that the people that I manage are under no doubt - but what would I know about that?!

My concern is that DH is rather neurotic, he can’t cope with change, he has few transferrable skills (certainly not many that a private sector employer would value), he’s 49 and earns more as an Admin Officer than he would in a comparable job in the private sector – that’s if he could get one(!) Don’t get me started on his pension, flexi-time and 5 weeks a year annual leave(!)

He reduced his working hours 10 years ago to care for his father who died 3 months later. He says that he couldn’t possibly work full-time because of the stress of the job. He is supposed to clean the house on his non-working days, but just runs the Hoover over the carpets leaving a dusty grey edge. All the cooking, shopping & most of the cleaning is down to me or my 18 year old son (from a previous relationship and who works full-time).

I have chronic arthritis, need crutches to get around and take a cocktail of painkillers to get me through the day. Although I work full-time at the moment, I don’t know how much longer I will be able to sustain it. I don’t think that it would be fair to expect me to take the full financial burden of the household and be forced to work full-time if he takes this redundancy.

Of course DH says that he will get another job in no time. He says that he will do 'anything' as long as it doesn't involve writing, using a phone (he has a hearing problem), handling cash or doing maths. This doesn't leave many options! He seems to think that Tesco are just waiting for him to apply to be a night-time shelf filler. He should be so lucky!!

I think he’s being selfish and have told him that our marriage is over if he takes this package. AIBU?

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Malabrig0 · 03/02/2015 19:51

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Voiceoffstage · 03/02/2015 19:53

Redundancy, although offered, wasn't an option for me. I'm 52 & crippled with arthritis - who's going to employ me?

But it would have been nice for DH to think of me and discuss the possibility rather than assuming that I would continue working & supporting the family whilst he could do what he likes without even talking to me about it. He just announced that he had put in for it.

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YoullLikeItNotaLot · 03/02/2015 19:53

Cross posted OP but I think we might be married to the same man!

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Malabrig0 · 03/02/2015 19:55

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Bogeyface · 03/02/2015 20:02

Just mentioned this thread to H, I asked if he would do something like this without discussing it with me first and he said that of course he wouldnt and said "Remember X?" X is our friend who told us that when he went home and told his wife he had resigned because he was sick of his job, she went completely bananas, and he genuinely couldnt understand why! He was always being approached by head hunters so went out the next day and got another job, so as far as he was concerned there was no issue.

He doesnt seem to understand that it wasnt him changing jobs so much as the fact that he decided to do this with no guarantee of another job and without even mentioning it to her never mind discussing it. This was a year or so ago and to my knowledge things are still shaky with them as a direct result.

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Dr0pThePirate · 03/02/2015 20:02

Voiceoffstage

Has your husband been offered voluntary redundancy before his department starts making compulsory redundancies? (i.e. when the redundancy package won't be as good?)

I don't think they'd offer him voluntary with a good package if they were also happy for him to continue indefinite employment.

Maybe he doesn't really have a choice?

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HermioneWeasley · 03/02/2015 20:07

He sounds weak and selfish.

I don't see a future in this relationship.

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Wantsunshine · 03/02/2015 20:08

With the amount of time there he should get an extremely good payout but it sounds as though you don't respect him at all. Maybe he doesn't deserve to be which begs the question of why are you with him?

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missnevermind · 03/02/2015 20:12

How do the figure stack up OP.

If you both take the redundancy. Work it out. The mortgage, 15-20 years employment. The stress.

Then both of you working part time, less stressful, small companies perhaps working for yourself.

How does the thought of it make you feel.
How would he feel about both of you taking 'early retirement '

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Summerisle1 · 03/02/2015 20:13

You do come across as very contemptuous of your DH, OP. Which doesn't bode well for the sustainability of your marriage whether or not he takes redundancy. So it occurs to me that the problems go a deal deeper than his employment. If you want to remain married then I'd recommend some sort of counselling. If you really do have as little respect for him as is coming across in your post then I suspect that the marriage is dead in the water.

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BathtimeFunkster · 03/02/2015 20:15

I agree with Chipping.

All the "for richer, for poorer" whataboutery ignores the "in sickness and in health" vow, which he is pissing all over with his lazy, cocklodging, moany shite while his sick wife works to support him.

Just leave him.

He is one of those unemployable dinosaurs the civil service can't get rid of.

He's "stressed" at work because he's useless and resents bring expected to do anything.

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FringeDivision · 03/02/2015 20:15

This marriage sounds dead to me. I would get a divorce while he still has a job and can't sting you for spousal support ( which he might try if he sah and you become sole earner). I can understand someone wanting to leave a job they find stressful but to do nothing around the house is just lazy. I also think he should have given some thought to how you are coping given your health issues and he's not doing that at all. Fair enough if he is properly (diagnosed by a dr) depressed but not if he's just a lazy arse.

Either way it sounds like the love has gone and if you aren't getting any happiness from the relationship best to call it a day while you both havr options financially.

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Voiceoffstage · 03/02/2015 20:16

Oh Malabrig0 I left him in Sept 2013 over the reduction in hours - oh and my cancer scare when he said that he was 'too stressed at work to be able to deal with this and everything else' and moved into his mother's house for 4 nights a week.

Told you it was a long story...

Then he left me to have the lump removed on my own. He was shocked and deeply hurt when I told him that I'd arranged for a friend to accompany me as I feared that he wouldn't be there for me. I apologised at my lack of faith in him and cancelled my friend so that he could come with me. We were waiting for me to go into surgery when he announced that he'd made an appointment to have his ears syringed (since he'd be at the hospital anyway it made sense...he said) and left me to it.

It was after this that he reduced his hours.

But we talked it through. He promised that he had learned to listen to me. That he would NEVER do that to me again. And DS & me moved back in last May.

and now... I fear Hmm

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ImperialBlether · 03/02/2015 20:18

I think it's time for a change, OP. He's selfish, isn't he? He is making you, though you are crippled with arthritis, do the bloody cleaning when he works part time?

You would be much better off apart. In your position I would dump him from a height and then move into a smaller and cheaper house for you and your son. Would you be able to get the mortgage down by much? If you did that, could you afford a cleaner?

He's a passenger, isn't he?

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BathtimeFunkster · 03/02/2015 20:18

Why on earth did you go back to this contemptible shite?

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ImperialBlether · 03/02/2015 20:19

He's getting worse by the minute. Let it all out and tomorrow morning phone a solicitor.

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Nextwednesday · 03/02/2015 20:21

I understand. You lose respect for a partner who is not pulling their weight. The number of men on the relationships threads who don't work but are happy for their partner to is appalling.

I had one myself, who didn't want to work and probably never will and has no intention of supporting his dc financially.

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Summerisle1 · 03/02/2015 20:24

Having read your update the answer seems simple. LTB.

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ministollen · 03/02/2015 20:25

He moved back in with his mother when you thought you had cancer because he couldn't cope???!!! WTAF?
FFS bin him. He's a total tosser.

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 03/02/2015 20:28

It's over. He regards your needs as secondary to his. You aren't a team and haven't been for a long time.

I am the main breadwinner and DH now works for himself after being a SAHD (gave up work due to PTSD). DH does the bulk of housework during the week and we discussed his leaving work before he did.

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Bogeyface · 03/02/2015 20:31

Wow, this man sounds worse by the minute!

How could you possibly consider giving up this prize?!

FFS OP, get rid. Forget the redundancy etc, just bin him.

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MrsSchadenfreude · 03/02/2015 20:32

I am LOLing at those of you who think he's going to get a marvellous pay out. He's an AO in the civil service, and has been part time for years. Probably £30K tops.

he does sound a selfish arse

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YoullLikeItNotaLot · 03/02/2015 20:33

I take it back OP, we're not married to the same man despite similar attitudes to "stress at work". And yes, as pp says, watch he doesn't try and sting you for spousal support.

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Onceuponatimetherewas · 03/02/2015 20:34

I would sit down on your own and do the sums - could you manage if you divorce him? And yes, be careful about the risk of divorcing him and finding you have to pay maintenance because he is unemployed and unemployable.
Have you got permanent health insurance at work? Maybe if your health deteriorates that would provide you with an income.
Obviously lots of other issues involved if considering divorce.

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