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MIL 60th birthday - AIBU or help me get some perspective

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Gobbolinothewitchscat · 18/02/2014 12:16

I've posted about MIL before. Basically, I find her a very selfish person. That's fine - she's entitled to be so.

We have a 14 month old DS and a 4 week old DD. my parents are the antithesis of PILs and give us a huge amount if practical and emotional support. They are "doers". So they'll just arrive with meals and pitch in with cleaning etc. MIL sends weird passive aggressive emails saying she wants to "help" more but won't actually do anything practical. And, when she's with the DCs, isn't very good at putting their needs above hers - eg she'll have DS shrieking with hunger in his high chair whilst she has her lunch first etc.

It's MIL's 60th birthday and she wanted to have an evening meal thing. Again, she's quite entitled to have that but we felt that wouldn't be possible fir us given the age of DS in particular. And we live over a hundred miles from the PILs so it would have been a long drive home later. Staying with them isn't practical. But the main issue is that 14 month old DS needs to be in bed.

Instead, we suggested going out for lunch with the PILs as MIL always saying she wants to see the DC etc.

So it was agreed that we would travel to the PILs and take them out fir lunch. They would then have their evening do that day. Fine. We would go up and down in the day (long round trip) to facilitate this. Plus I am exclusively expressing to feed DD due to latch probs. but that's ok - it's only one day and I bought an in car charger for the expressing machine so I could sit in the car and do that.

Last night, MIL phoned DH to say that, actually, she would prefer to have her hair done in the afternoon so we would need to cancel the lunch and she would like DH to come to the evening do. The DCs and I can stay at home - ie she's not bothered about seeing them

For the avoidance of doubt, I want to be very clear that I entirely respect MIL's right to have whatever kind of celebration she wants for her birthday.

What is getting in my nerves is her self-avowed wish to see more if the DCs. Despite making no effort to come and see them and then turning down the opportunity to do so to have her hair done.

I'd quite like to say something to MIL, should the opportunity present itself, but I won't. Because at the end if the day, she's the one who choses what kind of relationship she has with the DCs.

AIBU re this

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Gobbolinothewitchscat · 18/02/2014 22:46

I have a vision of your MIL being Dame Edna and her lone friend being Madge.

I think DH is in MIL's bad books though as she posted on Facebook about her beeeeeyoooooootttiffuuuul grandchildren but got DD's age wrong. Which DH felt compelled to correct in the post below!

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Kundry · 18/02/2014 22:54

What's the worst that could happen if you are in their bad books - you don't have to spend your holidays with them?

That's not bad, that's a result.

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SanityClause · 18/02/2014 22:56

Haha!

One year MIL sent a birthday card to DD2 with the wrong age on it. DH told her when he phoned her that she had it wrong, and she said, "Are you sure?"

Umm, yes, MIL, we do know the ages of our DC, having been there at the births, and having lived with them since, and all!

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pixiepotter · 18/02/2014 23:21

What do you mean when you say they don't want you and your DC there?
You wrote in your OP
'we felt that wouldn't be possible fir us'

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RandomMess · 18/02/2014 23:52

pixie - after the PIL cancelled lunch they then insisted the dh come to the evening meal after which it transpired the op and dc weren't part of that invitation...

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Gobbolinothewitchscat · 18/02/2014 23:54

We felt it wouldn't be possible for us all to attend the evening meal, when suggested. So we offered lunch. That invitation was accepted

MIL has now withdrawn her acceptance if the lunch invite so she can get her hair done. She's asked for DH specifically to attend the evening meal but basically made it clear that DC are NFI. Which is not an issue as we wouldn't have taken them for the myriad boring reasons previously stated about expressing and bedtimes etc. I'm staying at home to look after DCs. However, it's clear from speaking to DH that the "re-invitation" to the evening do wasn't actually extended to me either

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MrsGeorgeMichael · 19/02/2014 00:09

does DH really want to go?
what would happen if he got sick Wink and couldn't make it to the dinner in the middle of nowhere with nowhere for him to stay?

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diddl · 19/02/2014 06:45

TBH, I don't know why you are pandering to them at all.

Your husband shouldn't be going alone imo.

And as for even contemplating the video...

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TheRealAmandaClarke · 19/02/2014 06:51

I'm genuinely shocked at some of the IL shit some ppl have to deal with.
I am also very grateful for my DH who can be startlingly blunt/rude never puts up with crap from anyone apart form me
I feel for you Gobbolino
I didn't see your other thread. How did it go with the midwife?

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TheRealAmandaClarke · 19/02/2014 06:54

Well quite Diddl I know my dh would have just declined an evening invite even if we were all invited, if it didn't suit us -him-
But that doesn't help the op I guess.
Would dh stay away?

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Dubjackeen · 19/02/2014 07:23

A video to be played at the event...oh the temptation Grin.
It would be tempting to arrange it so that it is just blank screen, voices in the background every now and then, just basically like an attempt at videoing that didn't work. 'Whose idea was this anyway, mutter mutter'...fades onto white screen, then dead silence.
Ok, I know you can't but it'd tempting!
Enjoy your nice peaceful weekend. Sounds like DH will be stuck with paying the bills again, for them, unfortunately.

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chemenger · 19/02/2014 08:18

I'm going to be a crap MIL. I will not be organised enough to give my grandchildren the attention their mother craves. I will cancel things at the last minute because I am double booked. I will forget my grandchildren's names, dates of birth and ages (I'm fairly hazy on my own children's ages). I will probably prefer my own child to their spouse and want them at big birthdays when there will be nostalgia that only they can indulge in. I might well pretend I want to see my grandchildren in order to be a bit conventional but I suspect I may well not mean it. I will at 60, which seems pretty mid-life to me, have a life of my own and want to make my own choices, and I won't want to live to please others. I may also wear a purple hat when I am old and not give a crap about that either.

This is the MIL's big night. At my 50th I did not invite my own children because that is what I wanted. The birthday girl gets to choose. If she was demanding to visit every week to see he grandchildren that would probably not be popular either. The best way to be happy in life is to get on with your own life and accept that everyone will not do exactly what you want.

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Inertia · 19/02/2014 08:29

Chemenger, will you also insist on your children paying thousands of pounds for your holidays, drinks bills, and meals to which you have summoned your children while their families are banned ?

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Gobbolinothewitchscat · 19/02/2014 08:36

Chemenger - that is totally fine.

However, be honest about your intentions and dont constantly moan (behind your children's and their partners' backs) that you don't get to see your grandchildren enough - own your behaviour.

Also, understand that maybe your children will like their partners - so excluding them is actually quite hurtful. If you're fine with that - then again, go with that.

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Gobbolinothewitchscat · 19/02/2014 09:06

For the avoidance of doubt (and for the 10th time) - I have no problem with whatever mil does for her birthday. I don't actually care.

What I do have a problem with is her treating my DH crappily and being a great big hypocrite. Believe me - nothing would make me happier that MIL being honest about the fact she just wants a few posed photos with the DCs a few times a year. I'd happily facilitate that.

What really grated my carrot is knowing that behind our backs she is saying to people that she doesn't get to see the DCs enough

Oh - and if you can't be bothered to remember other people's birthdays, cheminger - don't expect people to be making a big effort for you. You can't have it both ways.

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ValentinesMassacred · 19/02/2014 09:34

OP you sound predisposed to hate your MIL

she invited you all, you refused
you offered lunch on the same day as her party, I think that was challenging of you
She accepted but then decided, on balance, to stick to her own plans rather than dance to your tune
you describe this as 'prioritising a hairdo over her GC' - somewhat over dramatic, and blatantly unreasonable
She didn't then nag you again about going, you had already explained why you didn't want to - you describe this as 'excluding' you

On the evidence of this particular scenario, you are out of order. If this is how you react, maybe she's not the difficult one. She has managed to bring up a fine young man who you are proud to call your husband, so maybe at least give her a bit of goodwill for that; we all have our foibles and we mother's of sons sometimes have a bit to put up with too.

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Essiebee · 19/02/2014 09:35

Own your behaviour; you were invited to your mother in law's party but declined for perfectly valid reasons; she declined your invitation also for perfectly valid reasons; you asked for advice to 'put this into perspective' but instead seem to be gathering support for an increasingly malicious witch hunt. Does it occur to you that you are revealing yourself to be exactly as you portray your mother in law: selfish and self-centred? What would her perception be of you? You are blessed with a happy marriage, healthy children and devoted parents; does your mother in law's perceived behaviour really matter that much?

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HumphreyCobbler · 19/02/2014 09:37

Gosh Chemenger, everyone has the perfect right to be horrible to their family. The rest of us don't have to like it though.

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HumphreyCobbler · 19/02/2014 09:38

And another one, I wouldn't respond OP. You made your position crystal clear to the rest of us Smile

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girlywhirly · 19/02/2014 09:42

OP, you could do a video, but just gather the DC and DH around you and start by saying Happy Birthday MIL, then move smartly on to filming the DC, making a big thing of introducing the new baby for those who haven't met him yet, and make it all about them.

Frankly, anyone who doesn't prioritise booking accommodation for their son and his family doesn't deserve their attendance. And I hope DH doesn't pay towards the party either. I'd be backing right away from the PIL after this.

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Gobbolinothewitchscat · 19/02/2014 09:58

For the last time - I couldn't care less about MIL's party. What I am very upset about is treating my DH like shit common theme re the accommodation.

I am cross about MIL's self avowed wish to see more of her grandchildren including on her fucking birthday but then prioritising her hair appointment. MIL made a big fuss about not seeing them. Hence we offered to go up for lunch/a glass of tap water/a cup of tea. Whatever she wanted. She wanted lunch. Fine.

Then she wanted a hair appointment. Fine. Have a hair appointment. But just say at the time the lunch was offered, sorry, I want to get my hair done. Then DH can actually get accommodation at the middle of no where 5 bed venue for the evening do he is then basically ordered to attend. On his own. Stop dicking us about as per usual. MIL and FIL can't even commit to a time to arrive when they visit us - it's just indicative to me of their total inability to consider anyone else bar themselves.

As Dzh said last night, there's no point speaking to MIL about this. She doesn't get it. Her brain isn't wired to actually consider other people - it's been a common theme through his life.

What will make him feel a bit better is, on reading this thread, there are a few other people like that. So it's not just something he is doing thats making her act like this to him Thankfully they seem to be the exception rather than the rule.

And I would say the way he has turned out is very much despite the PILs rather than because of them

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Gobbolinothewitchscat · 19/02/2014 10:02

girly - that's actually a very good idea re the video.

We will be the bigger people and do it, of course.

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Nerfmother · 19/02/2014 10:02

I'm not really understanding the angst. Mumsnet seems full of people whinging about their pils for being normal, non perfect people and being validated by others. It's fairly unpleasant.
Op, you seem to be in the unfortunate position if living far away from family (cple hours drive?) making things like this a hassle.
You were all invited, you said no, your mil probably accepted lunch to be nice and then realised it would be too much, so got fil to ring you. Why take offence now? It's just a matter of distance it doesn't need to be a big 'thing.'

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diddl · 19/02/2014 10:03

She'll certainly never get it whilst everyone kowtows & goes out of their way to accommodate her!

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HumphreyCobbler · 19/02/2014 10:05

Have you not read the thread Nerfmother? Your summary is wholly inaccurate in that it misses out a massive chunk of information re the MIL's form for telling other people that her grandchildren are kept away from her when making no effort to see them herself and turning down opportunities.

TO me MN seems full of people who can't read. I agree with the poster who suggested literary comprehension lessons Angry

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