to point out that people who say "choritso" for chorizo...

[MardyBra]

... are assigning an Italian pronunciation to a Spanish word?

You don't need to do a Manuel-style "choreeeeetho" thing. Chorizo with a z sound is fine by me if you prefer, as it's a valid in many dialects.

[MissDD1971]

Badtime - the Spanish - no care! said in Manuel orf Fawlty Towers voice.

[LyraSilvertongue]

I don't think the one Spanish colleague who was consulted speaks for the Spanish people as a whole. Anyway, what's wrong with trying to get it right, whether people are particularly bothered or not? Nobody's suggesting that the Spanish people will be rioting in the streets over the mispronunciation of one of their words

[LyraSilvertongue]

MissDD, but choritso wouldn't be correct in any part of Spain regardless of local dialect because it's an Italian pronunciation. That's the point.

[MissDD1971]

Lyra personally I like the experience when abroad of trying and failing to pronounce words.

then you get my saintly SIL's brother and his wife who are both fluent Spanish speakers (and the brother in French) who go into apoplexy (?!) type spasms if you can't pronounce some sodding Barcelona phrase right (this happened).

My life is too short... to bother too much.

[HaroldLloyd]

The year of the choreeeezo riots.

Brandishing slimy red batons they took to the streets of Madrid.

[BurberryQ]

Manuel was from Catalunya
and Spanish people DO care about how castellano is pronounced., esp if a South American is doing it (wrong apparently)

[MissDD1971]

Lyra - I see what you mean now. And I think it got lost in translation on me.

I think I was speaking generally re pronounciations. I agree - the Italianized way of choritso one should make an effort to pronounce correctly. reclutches Majorcan pearls

[badtime]

I know some Spanish people who find it weird, to say the least.

Besides, this isn't about defending the integrity of the Spanish language. I am more concerned about how it mangles English. Why do people use a random 'forrin' pronunciation for a foreign word, rather than speaking English?

Is everywhere foreign the same, full of people speaking a language called foreign?

Why not just use normal English pronunciation? Why is it so hard?

[MissDD1971]

Burberry - that's South Americans - someone here said they spoke to a Spanish colleague who said they didn't care...

but re South Americans... are they snobby towards them?? I dunno.

[MissDD1971]

HaroldLloyd this is ORF TOPIC but your name brought back fond memories of me and little bruv watching Lloyd swinging from some clock.

[Bonsoir]

Mispronunciation in ads etc is a very annoying educated-first-world problem, I agree

[BurberryQ]

IME missDD yes,,,

[eatriskier]

My DH thinks I'm mad when I shout the correct/one of the correct pronunciations at the television whenever I hear choritzo. Now I can show him I am not alone!

[MissDD1971]

Bonsoir and on that note the One Sheet Spaniard with plenty wet.

that's mis-pronounciation of English by a useless English actor on another level.

[ToffeeCaramel]

So I need to start asking for a panino then? Even if I'm in the BHS cafe in Croydon or similar? I won't sound silly?

[BurberryQ]

yes bonsoir and so is panicking about being stick thin

[nicename]

One shit spaniard? Whatever next?

[Bonsoir]

Yup.

The singular of broccoli is broccolo. As in one spear = a broccolo.

[MissDD1971]

nicename - CRUEL.

[nicename]

So is a teensy singular broccoli spesar and broccoloinio?

[Beastofburden]

lots of expresso pedants on here.

Did you know that espresso is Italian and expresso is French?

So, though espresso came from Italy, if you are in a French-themed cafe, expresso would be correct.

Personally my Spanish is crap but I will give you the sweetest transliteration I saw the other day. You need to know that X in Euskadi (local form of Basque) is pronounced "CH", so Caixa (bank, cashpoint) is pronounced K-eye-sha

so... they had a "Xu_Xu Tren"

(choo-choo train, bless....)

[ToffeeCaramel]

I'm not that stupid Bonsoir.

[Beastofburden]

bonsoir except what we get here is usually calabrese anyway

Like my Mum who keeps trying to pronounce parmesan as parmashan. I haven't the heart to tell her that even if that were authentic Italian pronunication (which it isn't) they call it Grana anyway.

[IslaValargeone]

Yes but you never have one spear do you? Unless you're doing Atkins or something daft. So that is exempt from wankiness.

[Growlithe]

Why are you bothered? I mean really, why are you bothered?