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In thinking MIL is seriously overstepping

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Fairy1303 · 28/08/2013 05:25

I have posted similar before.

DSD(8) lives with us. Before me DH was a young single parent so MIL helped him a lot. As a result I have been more lenient with her blatant disregard for our family life.

We also have a 9 week old DS.

These things seem small, but she often lets herself into my house. She makes a beeline for DSDs room ( often with a brief you don't mind do you?... Over her shoulder), cleans it up, collects her laundry, makes her bed.

DSD went to stay for a few days over hols. Decided she didn't like a belt on some trousers. MIL "oh DSD says she doesn't like belt, so I have kept it." Why? Why not send it home and let me deal with it??

She 'popped' round today, asked me if she could take the children's washing home. Was visibly surprised and annoyed when I said I'd done it. Just to point up here - I'm not the type to have mountains of laundry piling up, she will literally leap on a few pairs of pants.

She also said "by the way, I'd you know the baby has a drs app on tues? I saw the note in your nappy bag. Who does she think made it????!!!

I may be sleep deprived over sensitive but this is lik, every other day. She is overstepping the mark isn't she??

It is constant. I feel that she thinks I am incapable, which I'm not.

Oh and we have lived together for 4 years now so I'm hardly new on the scene!

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Fairy1303 · 28/08/2013 17:14

So worried - it was still unacceptable in the flat though - it was still my home, I was still contributing to it, I was still her parent. I just thought it would be more explicit when we moved into a proper family home and had the baby.

P.s - I'm still awaiting my response!!

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fluffyraggies · 28/08/2013 17:31

OMG OMG!

I'm so cross on your behalf, fairy, that i need to lie down nearly!

(although i have to admit i just nearly spat my tea out laughing at If it was my mother in law we'd have had some sort of fisticuffs as she tried to push past me.)

Please please please get your DH to see that the house is your space too and this is a battle you need to pick. For your DSs sake too. DOn't ask her to help with anything else, and get your key back somehow.

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asmallandnoisymonkey · 28/08/2013 17:31

It sounds as if she's one of those people that can't take hints. It's hard to be explicit when you know the outcome will be histrionics and her trying to make everyone think you're an awful person. You just have to be strong and remember that you're in the right and she really has no business treating you like that in your home.

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SoWorriedPleaseHelp · 28/08/2013 17:36

She will retort with the "only trying to help" line but stand firm and say that you can see why she would see it that way, however you want it to stop now.

She can be in no doubt what you mean. I would also change the locks.

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Pobblewhohasnotoes · 28/08/2013 17:38

Anyone letting themselves into my house would drive me nuts. It's totally over stepping the boundaries.

There's helping, and interfering.

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Wibblypiglikesbananas · 28/08/2013 17:49

Oh, this thread has wound me up. She sounds deranged.

She has actually stolen from your home - right in front of your very eyes. That is absolutely not on. If she wasn't your MIL, you'd be calling the police for advice on being harassed/stalked/burgled.

No more being nice. She knows exactly what she's doing. Demand she brings back everything she's appropriated and change the locks. And she owes you a massive apology too.

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Littlegreyauditor · 28/08/2013 17:50

What's with the stealing clothes and belts? Does she have a life sized doll somewhere being dressed up as your step daughter? That is not normal behaviour at all.
It seems to me that she is needy and jealous and missing her old role in your husband's life. Your husband needs to speak to her, if only to reassure her, however it will cause hysterics and tantrums, feigned illness and lunacy... Oh well.

I have a Grandmother who plays this game like a pro, but all the pussy footing around her has only made her more of a monster, and her demands become ever more ridiculous.

Change the locks. She is engaging in some territorial pissing in your home, and you need to piss back.

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Sawdust · 28/08/2013 18:20

Littlegrey's last sentence is funny - but it sums up the situation perfectly!

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rumbleinthrjungle · 28/08/2013 19:04

Agree with Littlegrey, very succinct! Whether she's doing it fully consciously or not this is a control thing.

She isn't going to like boundaries being put down, she is going to show you upset behaviour about it because she won't want things to change from this way that is meeting her needs, but the situation isn't all about her.

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Standautocorrected · 28/08/2013 19:04

Now I see she has removed clothes, I would change my plan. Do talk to dh and come up with a plan to a) get key off her and b) reduce her visits.

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ErmtheTrude · 28/08/2013 19:37

Hmmm, MIL and I breeze in and out of each other's houses constantly, only ring each other's bells if the other blighter has been inconsiderate enough to lie in leaving their key in the door!

If you don't like what she's doing one option is to tell her but that seems a bit brutal, as lunar says, she's kind of a mother with no rights which must be agony. However, I'd suggest using her desire to be helpful to your advantage, knock washing the kids clothes off your to do list along with cleaning DSD's room and just tell her you hugely appreciate it, take her up a cup of tea and let her get on with it. You could try manipulating the time/ day that she comes by suggesting that you take DS to rhythm and bounce (local library 20 min baby bounce along thing, most libraries seem to do them) or whatever other baby festivity you fancy then back to yours after for a spot of highly usefulness/ lunch. Or maybe she could pick her granddaughter up from school or take her to an activity on a regular day which might mean she then comes round that day?

Not sure if any of that helps but I'd take all the help you can get, my DMIL was ill when my DD was tiny and I missed her support so much. I doubt very much she thinks you are incapable, she is just trying to help in the way that she knows and she probably hopes won't crowd you and DS by focussing on DSD. The Dr appointment comment was almost certainly a desperate angle for an invite so please give the poor woman a blow by blow account!

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justanuthermanicmumsday · 28/08/2013 19:58

Like others have said this situation is different she was like a mother figure to your step daughter and all of a sudden she's been pushed out. So you should be sensitive yet firm when setting new boundaries. Let her do certain chores that you are happy with but on your terms not when she feels like it. Rather than chores maybe suggest they spend time together outings?

I think you should have a word but tell your husband first. In my experience telling your husband to pass on the message could make her bitter towards you. She may think why didn't she confront me why ask my son behind my back?

Your husband should ask for the key back he initially gave it to her right?

I do feel sorry for her, but I can understand you being annoyed. I live with my mil!

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50shadesofmeh · 28/08/2013 20:02

Nip this in the bud OP as well as interfering with your home life and invading your personal space I think she might also be standing between you and your step daughter and almost preventing you from being a mother figure to her by trying to fill that role herself.

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MrsHoratioNelson · 28/08/2013 20:09

When you tackle this with her, make sure you are both there (you and DH) and make sure that he backs you up. Otherwise you will be the wicked witch and she will be able to paint it so that your are stopping we from seeing her DS and causing difficulties - and if only your DH had his way, she would be free to do as she pleased. She needs to know that you and DH are as one on this.

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tiredaftertwo · 28/08/2013 20:29

You poor thing. I agree with others - you can't send her mixed messages. I have been in a slightly similar position and think the only thing to do is say that what you want is grandparent time with you dc, that's it, that's all that matters - and if necessary that you are teaching your dsd boundaries and one of them is you don't go into other people's bedrooms unasked, so she needs to stay downstairs.

And I would treat her firmly as a guest. When she turns up, sit her at the kitchen table and put the kettle on, if she starts to go upstairs say "where are you going?", don't engage with washing or household jobs and if she asks about them or anything else that you consider private, just change the subject or don't answer, if she steals your laundry, ask for it back, as you have done. It probably will mean there is a chill between you, tbh, but I can't see how you can go on like this, with someone coming into your home and removing stuff, and I agree your dh has to act too.

I am sure there are much more complicated things going on here as well but people who grew up in small damp houses in the 40s can be quite obsessive about airing and drying clothes and rotating them through the house in a complicated system Smile.

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AgathaF · 28/08/2013 20:50

I agree with Tired. Treat her as a guest. Be firm in checking what she is removing and continue to ask for it to be returned immediately and at her inconvenience. Tell her that she simply cannot remove family things from the family home without asking for permission first because it helps no-one and inconveniences the family who owns the stuff. Tell her straight that you feel undermined.

Instead of getting her key off her, could you add an additional lock to the door?

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ems1910 · 28/08/2013 20:56

Has she replied to your last text op? I really feel for you, I also think that she will not take it well when you and your H talk to her so be prepared for tears.

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UnicornsNotRiddenByGrownUps · 28/08/2013 21:15

This is absolutely ridiculous. It's actually a bit creepy. Why is she only tidying one room and now others? What is with that compulsion. Would certainly not be happening in my house!

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EldritchCleavage · 28/08/2013 21:19

Maybe you just need to lock DSD's room! That would spike MIL's guns.

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Fairy1303 · 28/08/2013 21:44

I have had a phone call.

She 'suspected from the tone of my text that i may be upset'.

She says she took the clothes as she had her friends granddaughter in mind for them, she didn't think I would mind. Did I have them in mind for somebody then? (I did)

I explained that I did, I had promised them to a friend who we are seeing tomorrow (true). She apologised and said she hadn't realised.

tbh this put me on backfoot as was all very reasonable - but why just assume she could take them?? why not ask if she wanted to give them to someone specific?

I said that I was upset, that I don't want to seem ungrateful or unkind but that I feel that she thinks I can't look after DSD properly, and that her constant (used that word) coming round, letting herself in and busying herself with chores, and chores specifically related to DSD is compounding this. I have said that that DSD is finally starting to accept that I am not going to leave her, that she can rely on me and that we are a family, and she is as important as DS, and part of that family unit is that I look after her things.

I have said that I feel that it may be confusing for DSD as she does not know who is her parent. She loves you MIL, you are her granny, she needs a granny, my mum isn't the same (play into her hands).

MIL says she understands the way I feel. she is sorry, she thought she had made an effort and thought she was helping. She can't help but notice that I am struggling with DS as he is such a 'difficult baby' who 'wont be put down'. she supposes she will have to accept that I am now the matriarch of the family and taken over. Hmm

I have invited her for coffee tomorrow to discuss.
Am I mad?

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Fairy1303 · 28/08/2013 21:45

By mad I mean glutton for bloody punishment.

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Crumbledwalnuts · 28/08/2013 21:46

Yes, I think so a little bit! She'll steamroller you, she's already insulted you in a very reasonable way over your baby. She knows what she's up to.

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Fairy1303 · 28/08/2013 21:49

I think we need to have this out though.
She's just followed with a text telling me how hurt she feels.
Fuck.
I need a fucking psychology degree.

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Donnadoon · 28/08/2013 21:51

Aww you are lovely, your DP is a lucky man. No advice I'm afraid.

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clam · 28/08/2013 21:51

Wow!
Sounds as though you put your point across fairly and tactfully, under the circumstances. Bit Hmm about the dig about your baby being 'difficult.' I guess you'll be best off ignoring that one, unless she repeats it, in which case I think I'd dispute it by laughing lightly and saying of course he can be put down and he's no more difficult than most babies at this age.
Good luck tomorrow. Not sure what else there is to say, though. Be careful you don't back-track.
I wouldn't accept the "I didn't realise you wanted them" excuse, by the way. Why would she realise your intentions for things in your own house. She was way out of line, taking your possessions to give away to her friends without your permission.

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