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Baking with children. AIBU to just not 'get' it?

94 replies

funkypigeon · 01/07/2013 20:48

A mum I met recently said she thought baking is 'such an important thing to do'

Can't bear it personally. I just feel anxious the whole time, the mess just gets out of hand and it ends up a stress-fest, really.

Gah, AIBU??

OP posts:
CalamityKate · 02/07/2013 01:46

DS1 did the baking ^^

raisah · 02/07/2013 03:50

It is stressful when the kitchen looks like a bombs hit it but the results are usually worth it! My two decided that it was my dhs birthday yesterday (its in Nov!) so they baked hin a cake, we did the prep outside because the weather was good.

TroublesomeEx · 02/07/2013 06:59

Baking is so good for real world applications of everything they learn:

literacy
numeracy
science
physical and creative development.

Besides if you start them young - cracking the eggs and 'helping' when they're 2, by the time they're 6 they can follow a recipe and bake a cake all on their own!

As for clearing up the mess, that's what big brothers are for Wink

middleagedspread · 02/07/2013 07:05

I've always baked with DS, the whole caboodle. At one point he spent a day perfecting choux pasty.
He's now 16 & refuses to bake anything usefulbar endless bacon sandwiches for himself, I wonder if those endless clearing up sessions have been worth it.

secondchances · 02/07/2013 07:45

Yabu. It's thanks to cooking with dd that she eats curry & veg. We used to make our own curry with broccoli & cauliflower in. She loves the veg now.

MrsMook · 02/07/2013 08:17

DS (2) is in a mangling with food experimental stage. I have harnessed this quality by getting him to rub the ingredients for crumble together. Making spare for the floor was a good move.
Last week I left dinner a bit late and needed to do something quickly. Got DH to chop the onion while I faffed with baby. He was then too busy doing something dubious to help further so I got DS to break the mushrooms up with his fingers.

Both rather sucessfull tries!

Eyesunderarock · 02/07/2013 08:26

I love cooking and baking with children, do it at home and do it with my class whenever possible.
But if you hate it, find something else that you and your children can share and be happy and interested with together.
My mother was and is a very poor cook (1970s packets and instant) and hated crafts, but knew huge amounts about books and literature and gardening and wildlife and that's what we did. She also had a great tolerance for mess and experimentation, so when we did arty things independently, she got us the stuff and let us go.
Dad did other things like sailing and survival 101.
I cook and craft and garden with mine, but no doubt there are huge areas of parenting must-does that I didn't. Smile

valiumredhead · 02/07/2013 09:11

YABU!

It doesn't have to be messy.

Yonihadtoask · 02/07/2013 09:19

I always hated the mess. Still do. But I am a terrible control freak.

Have decided to crack on now- and get them doing stuff.

At the weekend I guided DSS (16) on making a sponge dessert, and sent DS (15) in to make the custard to go with it.

At least when/if they leave home they can have pudding Grin

Lancelottie · 02/07/2013 09:21

Quoteunquote, DD age 11 is also shaping up to be a decent if mindblowingly slow cook.

But then I feel strangely guilty that she is so much more domesticated than the boys -- though DS2 does a mean lasagne and DS1 ...ermm... a decent bacon butty.

Microwave chocolate brownie is a good one for the rapidly bored. Weigh, mix, stir, zap for 30 seconds, eat (well, maybe wait to cool from lava temp first)

Lancelottie · 02/07/2013 09:25

Oooh, other standby instead of cake:
Melt chocolate. Dip strawberries in. Leave to set or usually not. Eat.

shewhowines · 02/07/2013 09:47

My 12 yr old cooks complete meals too smug

I found it very stressfull when they were young but found that rice krispie cakes and decorating biscuits were ok, as were doing pizzas.

We made cakes and biscuits, but the boxed ones were much easier for little ones and much less stressful for me. The kids character ones tasted rank but the kids didn't seem to mind. The boxed Betty Crocker chocolate devils food cake is gorgeous though much better than I can make

SacreBlue · 02/07/2013 10:23

sinister eating raw fairy cake mix is obligatory and delicious

choceyes · 02/07/2013 10:37

YANBU. I find it quite stressful too as I'm a control freak when it comes to cooking and baking. They always (nearly 5 and 3) end up squabbling and having a tantrum and throwing food around. Maybe they pick up on my anxiety. I have done making gingerbread men with them once, and that was it!
But this thread is making me want to give it another go. I love baking and cooking normally. Maybe as DD is nearly 3 now it might be worth trying again.
Pizza idea is great! Will definely try that. I will make the bases before and get them to roll it out and put the toppings on.

OxfordBags · 02/07/2013 10:58

Pizza really is the best option. I pre-rise the dough and make some sauce, then let DS (2) flour it, pull it, roll it and shape it, then spread the sauce over with a sppon, sprinkle cheese, chuck on torn bits of ham, various veg he likes, such as sweetcorn and sliced peppers, then we bung it in the oven. He is so proud of his creation and squeals "me do it!" whilst pointing at the remainder on his plate, all through eating it!

quoteunquote · 02/07/2013 11:03

My DH is an incredible cook, as al child he became his mother carer, he had to cook for bed ridden mother, siblings and student lodgers,

from a tiny budget, ridiculous tiny budget, when i met him I was a single parent student, he was feeding students and parent on a smaller budget than I and bf baby were spending,

the mess thing become irrelevant if children are involved in doing the daily meal prep and cooking, they soon learn to be neat as they go along, if you make sure they are never released from the project,

if you start with a clean sink, surface and empty dishwasher, they can clean as they go along.

we never allow half measures, if you are doing a job you are doing it properly, food must be respected,

I have yet to find a food that they don't eat,

No one is allowed to say, "I don't like this" , you say, "I haven't learnt to appreciate it yet" or you are brain washing yourself,

when they realised by doing the cooking, they could make the things they were less keen on, more to their taste they wanted to be in control,

DS really struggled with reading (dyslexic), it has really helped him, he also uses an audio reader on the kitchen computer, so he just highlights text and he can check he has read a recipe properly, mostly he just uses recipes for timings and temperature advice. He sets timers on the computer when he has lots going on.

when they were little if we had food on the table that they may of turned their noses up at, I would tell them that particular food was not for them really as it was adult food and their uneducated palate would not appreciate it yet, and then they would be determined to want it,

when we don't like food, it is because our brains don't recognise it as a food source, they know this so actively try training their own brains, my testing to see if they like something yet, and being massively pleased with themselves when it clicks,

DD wasn't keen to start with, with plain salad leaves, we have a lot of salad we grow more than we can eat, so she set about making dressings she likes, i turned a blind eye to the over use of brown sugar and honey, eventually she hit on dressings she likes, and would happily much a bowl of leaves and toasted seeds, she still makes dressings, but they only ever have a little bit of honey, and she eats them plain now,

children need to be really involved in everyday cooking to become food literate,

we talk about proteins, carbohydrates, fruits, veg, minerals, vitamins ,dairy , calcium,iron, zinc, fats, oils, sweets, salt.iron, fiber and why they are needed, when and what they come from,

so when they are planning meals they have to think what veg they have, what protein and then what brings it together.

they know what to eat before they train, and what to eat after,and which food to find it in, they know how much salt they need, they know how to avoid any unnecessary salt(use celery), so they can save it for crisps and other junk.

If mine want biscuits , cakes and junk, they make it, they are like lighting at producing goodies now, and you would never know they had been in the kitchen, because they know they would instantly lose the privilege.

by far the easiest way to get them to understand the whole picture is get them to do the everyday stuff,

DS gives me tips now, scared the pants of the food tec teacher, she was a little surprised, when he started this year.

DS, rockcake tip, use dried cranberries rather than raisins (or a mix), much nicer.

His bread is better than mine, his cakes are better, his fish cooking is better, his pastry is far better than mine,pasta is better, I'm holding on to my bolognese recipe, but i think his is pretty near, if he knows a friend of ours cooks something brilliantly, he asks if he can cook it with them, then comes home and repeats as many times as we are prepared to eat it, we ate a lot of sushi.

he thinks it a treat if we buy special ingredients so he always wants to cook,

because we got them into cooking, by doing it with them when we were cooking anyway, it wasn't an effort, even boiling an egg is worth getting them to do, just explain to them what they are trying to do,

You tube tutorials for knife technique, or recipes to follow,

is brilliant, we have now eaten everything she has demonstrate quite a few times, you tube means you can watch it through, get the ingredients ready, then follow by starting and stopping.

if you get them working with you doing all the normal cooking, you will be really surprised how quickly they just take off on their own.

Accidentallyquirky · 02/07/2013 11:12

My mum never baked with me but I have fond memories of baking and cooking on a regular basis with my grandma, I always wanted dd to have similar memories but with me and not her grandparents.

She's 3 and we bake a few times a week as well as her helping with every meal we eat ( she likes helping and watching )

Yes her baking is very messy, flour sugar everywhere, fingers poking the butter etc but I love it. we laugh, she has fun, I enjoy watching her covered in bun mix concentrating on whatever she's currently doing.

I bake a lot without her as well when she's in bed - dh and his friends/family love home baking so stuff never lasts 24 hours lol.

For me, mess is easily cleaned and i like that dd will have memories of us doing nice things together and I'm helping with skills she needs when she's older

Eyesunderarock · 02/07/2013 11:35

'He is so proud of his creation and squeals "me do it!"'

I'm not normally soppy, but that took me right back. Grin

Hasitfallendownagain · 02/07/2013 12:01

I've started baking with mine more since we moved house and have a kitchen larger than a postage stamp.

I bring a low table into the kitchen and they stand at that. We pretty much only make cupcakes, occasionally scones, just vary the flavouring but the basic recipe stays the same so now they know it quite well they can pretty much do everything themselves and I can just watch (I usually weigh everything out beforehand and put it in plastic bowls for them), then put it in the oven at the end. The 2 year old usually makes a bit of a mess of putting the mixture in cake cases, but I try to persuade her to hand the empty ones one by one to the 5 year old to be filled instead - moderately less messy.

Biggest problem is their impatience with how long it takes the cakes to cook and cool down before they can decorate them.

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