To wonder why any grown woman would want to wear a Pandora bracelet?

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I loved that kind of thing when I was 5. The little beads, different colours and styles.

But they still look like childs jewellery when on an adult woman.

They cost a lot of money (in my world they cost a lot of money) but they look so cheap. Really tacky.

They're on par with the dingle dangle clowns. The only difference is its silver (or white gold?) and on the wrist.

KatieScarlett I love fairy lights - we have some in the bedroom! At a guess this is a MN ' bad thing' yes?

SomethingOnce what a marvellous post.

Megatron I know what you are saying but I am not altogether sure that the posts considered to be 'putting down' are not just 'putting forward an opinion which differs from what I think so I am going to be offended' iyswim?

I think they're horrible. I agree with whoever said that they're a godsend for husbands who don't know what else to buy.

I don't care who else wears one. Knock yourselves out!

country I think saying 'I don't like them they're not my taste' is very different from saying 'they're hideous and worn by idiots with no imagination' (or along those lines :)) are two different things and I reckon one is intended to be deliberately unpleasant. Still, I don't even have one so I don't know why I care!

Yes, twigs n pebbly shit are MN poison, I blame Cod for That Thread

I love my twinkly lights, especially at Christmas .... Is that allowed on Mumsnet or will I be banned or cast out ?

Sorry SomethingOnce, I should have been clearer that you didn't make that remark, but MsElizaDay did:

What I don't get, though, is how people can claim they have a sentimental attachment to something so mass-produced. Personally, I couldn't have a shiny bead on my arm to "represent" my son, my husband, the child I lost, anything so personal.

pretty shocking really.

Of course it's never enough if you've lost somebody, but it might still be a great comfort.

Difficult to know how to respond at all adequately, but just to show I do understand a little.

You could embrace the counter culture and flaunt your twigs with pride. "We're Here! We're Tacky! Get Used To It"
(brandishes sparkly twigs in slightly menacing stylee)

I don't see that remark as 'shocking' at all. The poster states that 'personally' this is not for them. How and why is that shocking? This is what I mean about seeing criticism where there is none - no need to get all offended because someone does not do what you do!

Tacky
Cheap
Unsophisticated
Dim
Gaudy
Vile
Tat
Gross
Ugly
Imagination bypass
Childish
Fool

Personally I think people who are unable to express an opinion about something without being so unpleasant and sneery are revealing themselves to be the unsophisticated ones.

country that's kind of the point I was trying to make before. There's no need for people to get unpleasant or bitchy because someone else DOES like something they don't? Ya get me sista? (I promise I don't really talk like that in real life)

And now they are my profile pic

SomethingOnce that is a truly brilliant post. Opinions expressed with that amount of nuance and intelligence are why MN is brilliant.

Ok I do understand your point. But if OP1 loves something and waxes lyrical about it, is OP2 not then allowed to proffer their opinion that it is 'ugly' or whatever in their opinion? That is a valid opinion isn't it? And not a value judgement on OP1.

Or, if they want to disagree are then then to do so without proffering any opinion at all? Should they just say 'I don't like it' and move on? Isn't that just a tad insipid?

Wouldn't threads become lists of 'I love this, what do you think?' followed by 'I like it' or 'I don't like it'? Would you read that?

Not saying that people have to be vile to each other but surely opinion is interesting?

I like flowery's post too

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An opinion on the item is interesting. Calling the people that wear them dim, is not. Neither is saying that they have been ripped of or that the person that likes them is stupid. That is not an opinion on item, that is an attack on a person.

Women seem to love doing it to each other,

Also likes Flowery's post. Really not that difficult to understand, is it?

We all have opinions about everything, some things we like, some things we don't. Nobody cares - but when you disparage people who like whatever it is you mean to be offensive.

Saw this on another thread this week... "The patriarchy is safe whilst women treat each other this way"... never a truer sentiment and makes me wince at the sub-text that women are indeed the weaker sex. I truly think we are when we so gleefully do this.

Never think we are LyingWitch

1. You have to look at the context of our lives

2. Look at what men do to one another and to us and our children

Yes, Juggling, we have ALL that to contend with and then, because we need another challenge in our lives, we do this to each other too. So I could add 'stupid' to that list. It makes me cross.

Not all women do this and it's not all the time but it IS depressing to see it on a chatboard that's ostensibly for women/parents. How does this not get passed on to their children? What is the point of it all?

Please can we remember that are talking about a bracelet. It is perfectly ok to have different opinions about everything (including bracelets )

Countrykitten - I don't know as read the 'shiny bead' comment as a very snidey dig, considering how some posters had posted about their very personal reasons. I comprehend that as quite bitchy not just a personal opinion. Maybe I read too much into how some comments are intended.

It's not about 'bracelets', Chottie, it's not about having opinions, it's about deriding and denigrating others for their choices and opinions.

"To wonder why any grown woman would ......" Fill in the blanks?

• want to wear a Pandora bracelet?
• want to have a child out of wedlock?

Then you add the adjectives from Flowery's post: "Any woman who does that is....." Fill in the blanks again:
Tacky
Cheap
Unsophisticated
Dim
Gaudy
Vile
Tat
Gross
Ugly
has an imagination bypass
Childish
a Fool

Not quite so 'harmless' now? This isn't about a 'bracelet'. The "Could we remember..." made me cringe for you.

I have no problem with anybody's opinion; mine is that this kind of goading is charmless and graceless.

Chottie - classic example of someone spectacularly missing the point.

Completely with you lying and then I go to most popular and see a thread debating Kirsten someoneorother and whether people 'hate' her.

It makes me sigh.

But Somethingonce's point is that we are also all being repressed by commercialism, which makes us believe that we need or want things that are (some would say) overpriced. It is a fine line between feeling like we are criticising each other and pointing out (validly, I think) that the consumer 'choices' we are making are not necessarily good ones.