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AIBU?

To think you should give a friend a lift home if it's raining?

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eggsy11 · 08/02/2013 12:33

This may be more a chat thing, but think I need the harshness of AIBU to see if I do have the right to be mad at my friend!


Have done A LOT of favours for this friend, but won't include that in the argument since I didn't do them to be paid back... but it is what is annoying me about the situation.

Another mum at DS's nursery saw me and DS huddling under the doorway until the hail past. Said hello, grabbed her DS and drove home. DS was screaming because he was scared. He was under his raincover in the pram, and it was a 15 minute walk so it was only me that got wet. But it was still horrible and I was literally soaked to the skin.

I know the mum would of had to drop us home (5 min drive) and come back for her DS, as there was only 1 car seat. But there is no way i'd walk past my friend like that! She is always early to pick up her DS so it wouldn't of been an issue since it's daycare, not like at school.

Am I being unfair? Is it our fault we don't have a car? I just think it would of been nice!

(btw she wasn't in a rush. pictures on facebook of them cuddled up watching cbeebies etc when they got home!)

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KnittedCharacter · 08/02/2013 13:40

I would not expect a friend (even if i had done lots of favours for them) to offer me a lift in this situation. Her priority was picking up her ds. Like the other posts have said she may have had a full boot (possibly her own pram) and knew she wouldnt have been able to get.ur pram in too! unless u were also expecting her to empty her boot too to accomodate your wet pram! out of interest what time was it? If it was school hours or rush hours she may have already struggled in traffic to get to nursery and didnt want to have to fight traffic to drop u off then come back for her ds then make her own way home finally!!

If i was in ur friends shoes and knew what you were expecting her to do and pissed off when it didnt happen well i would be seriously pissed off and shocked by ur attitude!!!

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Fakebook · 08/02/2013 13:40

Even with the caps, you're still being unreasonable!

Everyone is reading your bloody posts, YABU.

No one is going to leave their dc in nursery to drop off another child. I used to get to nursery to pick up dd right on the dot, not a minute more or less. Why would she leave her child there for longer and possibly incur extra fees?

You think it's cheeky to ask for a favour, so that's your problem isn't it? You don't get anything if you don't ask. I certainly wouldn't get pissy about someone not offering me a lift.

Maybe this will give you a reason to learn to drive now? Because yes, not having a car is your fault.

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TantrumsAndBalloons · 08/02/2013 13:41

Do YOU not read the posts?

1- if your dc is scared by hail take him inside out of the hail rather than standing outside.

2-there's a difference between you wanting a favour but not asking and your friend asking and you agreeing

3- yes absolutely it's your fault you have no car. Who else's fault would it be? Mine? The lollipop lady outside?

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RedToothBrush · 08/02/2013 13:43

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MrsTerryPratchett · 08/02/2013 13:43

She didn't know why your child was upset. If I saw you I would do sympathetic smile and go because it's annoying when someone starts talking to you when you have an upset DC. I might have thought, I wish I could give her a lift but I only have one carseat.

It is one of my pet peeves when people get annoyed because you are not psychic. I have a 'friend' who is permanently pissed of with me because I should have KNOWN I should have done something. Screw that, ask.

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FaceLikeAPickledOnion · 08/02/2013 13:44

YABU
It's only rain and hail, get used to it. Or learn to drive.
One thing I hate about being able to drive (although I don't anymore because I can't afford to) is that non drivers expect or ask for lifts all the time, which is a novelty when you first pass your test, but it soon wears off. Also they never contribute towards fuel, mot, service, repairs, tyres, tax etc.
Call a taxi if your son was that distressed and you needed to get home.

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AngelWreakinHavoc · 08/02/2013 13:47

If the nursery wasnt shutting for another 2 hours why were you picking your dc up early in terrible weather?

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MrsMangelfanciedPaulRobinson · 08/02/2013 13:47

Worriedmummy, why should people give you a lift? Other people pay for their cars, petrol, upkeep, driving lessons etc. Why would you get wound up when someone drove past you? Why should they ferry you around? Attitudes like yours from non drivers really make me cross

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babiesinslingsgetcoveredinfood · 08/02/2013 13:49

YABU & clearly shouldn't have posted in aibu if you are so certain that you were not!

You would be taking a massive liberty. As someone said, full boot? One car seat, I'd never suggest what you wanted. Phone a fucking taxi.

Also, clearly you DID expect to be repaid for your favours.

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WorriedMummy73 · 08/02/2013 13:52

Mrs Mangel - did you actually read all of my post? Or did you just read enough to get wound up with me? I actually said that I think the op IBU! I also said that while I get wound up at the time (you try standing at the bus stop for 50 mins in the bloody snow, with three crying kids and see if you don't get a tiny bit annoyed!) I do understand that I'm not entitled to a lift and that I need to learn to drive. AT no point did I say that anyone should 'ferry me around'!

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LadyClariceCannockMonty · 08/02/2013 13:53

It was only raining. Not that terrible.

But if you feel that she takes the piss with the number of favours she asks from you, cut down or stop doing them.

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WorriedMummy73 · 08/02/2013 13:55

MrsMangel - just for the record, here's the second half of my post earlier:

I need to learn to drive. This is my next project. We have a car that dp uses for work, but he'll get a little van. I'm looking into fast-pass courses. It's MY problem that I don't drive, no one elses. No one is obliged to give me a lift - I don't know where they're going, their petrol levels, etc. So, I think the issue here, op, is that you asked 'SHOULD' she have given me a lift?'. No, she shouldn't. She's another Mum, with her own child and issues. Would it have been nice? Definitely. But it didn't happen. Hey ho, move on.

Try reading the whole post before having a go at someone in future!

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Thumbwitch · 08/02/2013 13:58

"Panzee Fri 08-Feb-13 13:01:18
Maybe the batteries in her crystal ball were flat."

PMSL! Grin

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McKayz · 08/02/2013 14:00

YABU and very rude.

I don't drive and have to walk to school and back 3 times a day. If it is raining we put on raincoats and wellies, cover the pram with raincover and get on with it. Occasionally my Mum will ring and offer to take them if it is really bad. I don't ask though.

If you don't like it buy a car and learn to drive.

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NatashaBee · 08/02/2013 14:05

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LisasCat · 08/02/2013 14:06

Should HAVE, would HAVE, could HAVE. I don't normally correct but when someone's this entitled I think they should at least be entitled correctly. HTH

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 08/02/2013 14:08

WorriedMummy - I didn't read your post the same way that MrsMangel did - and fwiw, I think it is perfectly natural to feel a bit Sad when you and your children are waiting in the snow/rain, and you see others driving past. And you weren't saying, 'I felt sad about this so they are awful people for not stopping and picking me up' - which is what the OP is saying.

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WorriedMummy73 · 08/02/2013 14:09

SDT - thanks! I've noticed I've not had a reply from MrsMangel either...

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RedToothBrush · 08/02/2013 14:10

you try standing at the bus stop for 50 mins in the bloody snow, with three crying kids and see if you don't get a tiny bit annoyed

I take the attitude that anyone driving past a) wouldn't know how long you'd been there b) wouldn't have a clue about the bus timetable c) would at least expect one to turn up within 30mins of you waiting or expect you to find somewhere warmer to wait in the meantime.

All of which merely serves to prove the way in which drivers and non drivers think (rather than saying you are in the wrong for getting annoyed).

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PureQuintessence · 08/02/2013 14:12

OP, just to try to explain from a drivers perspective:

A couple of years ago I was picking up my 3 year old son from a sports activity. Every month the preschool went to a nearby primary school to use their gymnastics and sports facilities.

One of these days I had just come home from some lectures at the university that I was attending. Would pick up my youngest from the sports activity at this primary, go home, cook dinner and get the kids sorted with home work, get my stuff ready, and drive into town for evening classes I was teaching. So, a busy day. I would not be back home until 10 pm.

One of the other mums asked me "where do you live?" I replied "Oh, just the street next to preschool" She exclaimed: "Great, then you can drop me off on the way" Fine.

I just about managed to fit her mahoosive pram for her baby into my car, let her baby go in my sons car-seat, so needed to adjust the seat because the straps were not tight enough, my son was 3 and in a maxi cosy. This was a faff and a fiddle, and took some time. The mum was not used to cars so just sat down to chill in the drivers seat, not much she could do. I then had to let my son sit on my older sons booster, and her dd who was in my sons preschool class sit in the middle. This meant faffing about with the mid section car seat which was not three point but across belly, and with straps that needed to be taken from elsewhere and thread through a "needle hole" in the top of the seat. This palaver took 15 minutes!

To her it was "just a drop off as you were going this way". To me it meant fiddling about with straps and car seats and seat belts, standing out in the cold, while she was listening to music in the front.

When I finally got into the car and started driving I asked her where she lived. She gave the address. The walk would just have been 10 minutes past my house, but the drive was 10 minutes for me each way. As a non - driver she did not realize that I could not drive the same way as she walked, ie the short cut across the pedestrian bridge over the river. I had to go a large distance around, down the the mainroad, into the next neighbourhood and up to hers.

She was a sahm. She said "I was having a lovely bath with bubbles and all, and I lost track of time. I had to rush to pick up Eva from the sports club, and it is not nice to walk in the cold with wet hair." Angry I bit my lips.

I had catapulted my entire schedule of juggling my day job, my evening teaching, dinner and homework with my children, for a sahm and her bubble bath to get a lift home because it was "nice" for her.

To her it was just a nice ride home, to me, it was a major inconvenience. I was home an hour later than normal to save her 10 minutes walk in the cold. She could not have predicted this. As a non driver, she would have no clue about car seats, seat belts, and roads which are not passable by car. she did no realize.

OP, I think you simply do not realize what a faff it is to give other people, their children, and their wet pushchairs lifts. To you, it is just 5 minutes back and forth, but the reality is very different.

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pictish · 08/02/2013 14:13

you try standing at the bus stop for 50 mins in the bloody snow, with three crying kids and see if you don't get a tiny bit annoyed

Yeah...been there, done that, worn the fucking t-shirt, scarf and waved the flag. It's shit shit shit!

Still not anyone else's responsibility though.

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WorriedMummy73 · 08/02/2013 14:16

Pictish - at no point did I say it WAS anyone else's responsibility. I was responding to MrsMangels point that I was 'entitled' to a lift. I was saying that it is shit and you do get fed up, not that I feel it's anyone else's responsibility.

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PureQuintessence · 08/02/2013 14:16

"you try standing at the bus stop for 50 mins in the bloody snow, with three crying kids and see if you don't get a tiny bit annoyed"

Pretty lousy time keeping and time management skills, if you manage to miss a bus which is so infrequent.

If you use a bus, you should know to check the schedule and be early, as the bus never waits for you! You should also know to dress if it is snowing, to avoid getting cold!

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EldritchCleavage · 08/02/2013 14:18

Well, I'm a non-driver and getting caught in bad weather with small children is not fun. It's just how life is when you don't drive, though. I don't think you can reasonably expect someone to stop short of their destination, give you a lift home then double back on themselves.

So, notwithstanding that this woman seems to have prevailed on you to do a lot for her, it wasn't rude or unreasonable or unfair that she didn't offer you a lift. But since she's annoyed you, why not start saying no to all the favour requests from now on.

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WorriedMummy73 · 08/02/2013 14:20

Wow - first of all, the bus runs every 30mins. It was a blizzard, we were asked to pick up kids early. I got to school, it was madness, collected kids. Tried to get a taxi, wasn't one to be had. Buses were running late due to snow. So, not bad time-keeping at all on my part or time-management. And we were all wrapped up as warmly as possible! If people are willing to have a go at me (when I was actually saying op WBU) please read my earlier post where I take full responsibility for me and mine before doing so. I don't feel entitled to a lift from anyone and am always very grateful when we get one. My not driving is my responsibility and no on else's.

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